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SX50 vs. SX60 - My thoughts (pics, too)

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ANAYV Forum Pro • Posts: 23,926
SX50 vs. SX60 - My thoughts (pics, too)
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As most here may know, the SX50 gets high praise for it's I.Q.

It's O.I.S. (IS) was very effective, too.

1/80th at 1200mm

It's 12MP sensor was pretty good when one raises ISO:

ISO 800

ISO 800

Ok..so we know about the SX50.

Now, what about the SX60?

Details are also good...seems the lens is fine, compared to the SX50

High ISO is not quite as good, but the O.I.S. is excellent.

ISO 500 1/50th at 1365mm

Even the Moon comes out decent.

What are the pros and cons of shooting with each?

to be continued

ANAYV

Canon PowerShot SX60 HS
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marksee Contributing Member • Posts: 969
Re: SX50 vs. SX60 - My thoughts (pics, too)

Thanks for sharing your experience. To my eye, I can't discern any notable difference here. I think you also have the SX70 which would be a more important comparison for me. Have you already shared that?

bill hansen Forum Pro • Posts: 10,033
Re: SX50 vs. SX60 - My thoughts (pics, too)

All good. The gorilla, since (s)he's black, would have been a good test for higher ISO, and it came out very well. Looking forward to more of your comparisons.

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OP ANAYV Forum Pro • Posts: 23,926
Re: SX50 vs. SX60 - My thoughts (pics, too)

marksee wrote:

Thanks for sharing your experience.

Your welcome.

To my eye, I can't discern any notable difference here. I think you also have the SX70 which would be a more important comparison for me. Have you already shared that?

Never owned the SX70.

Sorry , can't be of help with that one.

ANAYV

John McCormack
John McCormack Veteran Member • Posts: 7,101
Re: SX50 vs. SX60 - My thoughts. What About SX70 Thoughts?

marksee wrote:

Thanks for sharing your experience. To my eye, I can't discern any notable difference here. I think you also have the SX70 which would be a more important comparison for me. Have you already shared that?

Yes, please. Your thoughts on the SX70, especially IQ vs SX50/60 and camera ergonomics. Thanks.

bgreg
bgreg Contributing Member • Posts: 641
Re: SX50 vs. SX60 - My thoughts (pics, too)

These impressive pics are prompting me to get out my barely used sx40 that I bought when it was new and didn't use. It's been in a plastic bag in a case for years and doesn't even have dust on it. Maybe I'll just use that from now on and spend new camera money on an eyepiece for my telescope instead.

jshen808
jshen808 Forum Pro • Posts: 16,067
Re: SX50 vs. SX60 - My thoughts. What About SX70 Thoughts?
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John McCormack wrote:

marksee wrote:

Thanks for sharing your experience. To my eye, I can't discern any notable difference here. I think you also have the SX70 which would be a more important comparison for me. Have you already shared that?

Yes, please. Your thoughts on the SX70, especially IQ vs SX50/60 and camera ergonomics. Thanks.

..Currently, ANAYV does not have the SX70 camera..

..ergonomically, all three cameras are about the same..

..the major differences are, SX50 (12mp), SX60 (16mp), SX70 (20mp)..

..if having a hotshoe is important, then get either the SX50 or SX60..

..if the quality of the EVF is important, the EVF gets better with each generation..

..if the buffer size is important, then get the SX70, which have an amazing buffer..

..if you have not seen this posting before, the below link have pictures from all three cameras..

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4366157

..and if you have not seen the post from Bill Hansen, see the link below and browse down to my post, where can see many picture links from my SX70 camera..

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4383353

..from the three cameras, can't go wrong with any of them..

..ANAYV, made a good choice, going in the middle with his SX60..

..Cheers, John..

 jshen808's gear list:jshen808's gear list
Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ300 Panasonic FZ80/FZ82
John McCormack
John McCormack Veteran Member • Posts: 7,101
Re: SX50 vs. SX60 - My thoughts. What About SX70 Thoughts?
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jshen808 wrote:

John McCormack wrote:

marksee wrote:

Thanks for sharing your experience. To my eye, I can't discern any notable difference here. I think you also have the SX70 which would be a more important comparison for me. Have you already shared that?

Yes, please. Your thoughts on the SX70, especially IQ vs SX50/60 and camera ergonomics. Thanks.

..Currently, ANAYV does not have the SX70 camera..

..ergonomically, all three cameras are about the same..

The one thing I disliked on the SX50 HS was the absence of a proximity sensor for the EVF. Drove me crazy....

..the major differences are, SX50 (12mp), SX60 (16mp), SX70 (20mp)..

..if having a hotshoe is important, then get either the SX50 or SX60..

Never used the hotshoe so not a big deal. Always shoot outdoors in good light.

..if the quality of the EVF is important, the EVF gets better with each generation..

..if the buffer size is important, then get the SX70, which have an amazing buffer..

That's good to know. The SX50 was not a fast shooter or fast with the AF compared to my FZ300.

..if you have not seen this posting before, the below link have pictures from all three cameras..

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4366157

Not a great deal of difference though I expected a better performance from the SX70 in this comparison.

..and if you have not seen the post from Bill Hansen, see the link below and browse down to my post, where can see many picture links from my SX70 camera..

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4383353

..from the three cameras, can't go wrong with any of them..

..ANAYV, made a good choice, going in the middle with his SX60..

..Cheers, John..

Thanks again.

Woody S
Woody S Contributing Member • Posts: 744
Re: SX50 vs. SX60 - My thoughts. What About SX70 Thoughts?
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I've been an SX50 fan since it came out and have had three. The first died when I fell on it and destroyed the lens; the second, after in excess of 150,000 images, now has issues in extending and focusing the lens; the third is virtually new, purchased when it was one of the last new ones available. Long story short, I purchased an SX70 about a month ago and love the ergonomics and controls -- BUT, compared pictures from the SX50, I've been sorely disappointed with the SX70's image quality right out of the camera.

However, with a good bit of editing the SX70's images can be significantly improved. Here's just one photo comparison -- right out of the camera on top, after editing on the bottom --

DonA2
DonA2 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,720
Re: SX50 vs. SX60 - My thoughts. What About SX70 Thoughts?
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Woody S wrote:

I've been an SX50 fan since it came out and have had three. The first died when I fell on it and destroyed the lens; the second, after in excess of 150,000 images, now has issues in extending and focusing the lens; the third is virtually new, purchased when it was one of the last new ones available. Long story short, I purchased an SX70 about a month ago and love the ergonomics and controls -- BUT, compared pictures from the SX50, I've been sorely disappointed with the SX70's image quality right out of the camera.

However, with a good bit of editing the SX70's images can be significantly improved. Here's just one photo comparison -- right out of the camera on top, after editing on the bottom --

100% agree.  I have had the SX40,50,60,70.  The 50 was the best overall.  No way perfect but very good.  I sold the new 60 to get the referb 50 as not too thrilled with the 60s IQ. Now not too thrilled with the 70 SOOTC  JPEGs either.

Just lately I tried the RAW setting and found after minor processing the images were an improvement.  What had me avoiding RAW was the overly-complex editing process.  I downloaded DPP only to confirm my original perception.  Having used Picasa for over 15 years I gave it a shot and found that simple can work.  The RAW images processed just fine and come off slightly better than JPEGs.

There has been definite improvements in the many upgrades except for image quality.  Many will disagree.  However jamming ever more pixels on tiny sensors, ever increasing zoom range and adding electronic gizmos has had a detrimental effect on IQ.

Just my 1/2 cent worth of inspiration. 

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marksee Contributing Member • Posts: 969
Re: SX50 vs. SX60 - My thoughts. What About SX70 Thoughts?
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I agree. Many cameras reach a "sweet spot" where any more or any less just doesn't improve the output. The SX50 seems to be it for the SX line.  I had the SX40 and was just as happy with it, but the SX50 was able to add additional zoom range that I needed and maintain the IQ. SX50's are selling at low prices now, so it's a good time to buy.

Avian2016 Veteran Member • Posts: 7,393
I believe SX70 can hold its own
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After 10 good months of use I believe the SX70 HS can hold its own.

Images below surely prove the statement.

Marine Cat

Greylag Goose

Mallard female

European herring gull

OP ANAYV Forum Pro • Posts: 23,926
Re: SX50 vs. SX60 - My thoughts. What About SX70 Thoughts?

John McCormack wrote:

marksee wrote:

Thanks for sharing your experience. To my eye, I can't discern any notable difference here. I think you also have the SX70 which would be a more important comparison for me. Have you already shared that?

Yes, please. Your thoughts on the SX70, especially IQ vs SX50/60 and camera ergonomics. Thanks.

Sorry John, never owned the SX70.

I think ergonomics are more similar with SX60/70 , than SX50/60. Still, all different.

SX50  worse than SX60, IMHO.

Never did like the grip/ feel of the SX50.

Will go over the differences between SX50 and SX60 in another post. (part 2)

I might add the FZ80 and P610  in there , as well, with images.

Perhaps there are some who owned and used all three SX models, and can give their thoughts.

ANAYV

John McCormack
John McCormack Veteran Member • Posts: 7,101
Re: I believe SX70 can hold its own. NICE!!
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Great shots. The mallard is my favorite. I plan to give the SX70 a try when hurricane season slows down and the fall birds start to return to Florida. This has been a stressful summer so far.   Keep those great images coming...

Avian2016 wrote:

After 10 good months of use I believe the SX70 HS can hold its own.

Images below surely prove the statement.

Mallard female

Avian2016 Veteran Member • Posts: 7,393
Re: I believe SX70 can hold its own. NICE!!

Thank you John.

We saw n' heard about that Dorian monster. A big threat to the people and their belongings. Hope you'll survive it without significant consequences.

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Avian

OP ANAYV Forum Pro • Posts: 23,926
Post higher than Base ISO please....Re: I believe SX70 can hold its own

Avian2016 wrote:

After 10 good months of use I believe the SX70 HS can hold its own.

Nice shots, as always, Avian.

Images below surely prove the statement.

Not really.

You posted base ISO(100) samples ONLY.

In a thread that has higher than base ISO images.??

Interesting.

Care to post ISO 400-800 images...to be more fair comparison?

Stick to jpegs, if possible, as these images  from SX50/60 are jpegs, not RAW.

Thanks

ANAYV

OP ANAYV Forum Pro • Posts: 23,926
Re: SX50 vs. SX60 - My thoughts. What About SX70 Thoughts?

jshen808 wrote:

John McCormack wrote:

marksee wrote:

Thanks for sharing your experience. To my eye, I can't discern any notable difference here. I think you also have the SX70 which would be a more important comparison for me. Have you already shared that?

Yes, please. Your thoughts on the SX70, especially IQ vs SX50/60 and camera ergonomics. Thanks.

..Currently, ANAYV does not have the SX70 camera..

Correct, John.

..ergonomically, all three cameras are about the same..

Well...Canon stated a change for the SX60...and I recall a worse holding experience with the SX50.

..the major differences are, SX50 (12mp), SX60 (16mp), SX70 (20mp)..

..if having a hotshoe is important, then get either the SX50 or SX60..

..if the quality of the EVF is important, the EVF gets better with each generation..

Indeed. Sx50 the worst, by far. SX70 the best.

..if the buffer size is important, then get the SX70, which have an amazing buffer..

I think SX60 also really good buffer. Can't fill it up, even with slower SD card.

Not so for the SX50...plus only 2fps. SX60 shoots over 6fps...quite a big jump up.

SX70 a bit more, but i forgot if it's 7fps..or higher?

..if you have not seen this posting before, the below link have pictures from all three cameras..

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4366157

..and if you have not seen the post from Bill Hansen, see the link below and browse down to my post, where can see many picture links from my SX70 camera..

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4383353

..from the three cameras, can't go wrong with any of them..

..ANAYV, made a good choice, going in the middle with his SX60..

..Cheers, John..

ANAYV

OP ANAYV Forum Pro • Posts: 23,926
Re: SX50 vs. SX60 - My thoughts (pics, too)

1gregory1 wrote:

These impressive pics are prompting me to get out my barely used sx40 that I bought when it was new and didn't use.

Glad to encourage you to use what you have.

It's been in a plastic bag in a case for years and doesn't even have dust on it. Maybe I'll just use that from now on and spend new camera money on an eyepiece for my telescope instead.

Sounds a good idea.

ANAYV

OP ANAYV Forum Pro • Posts: 23,926
Re: SX50 vs. SX60 - My thoughts. What About SX70 Thoughts?

John McCormack wrote:

jshen808 wrote:

John McCormack wrote:

marksee wrote:

Thanks for sharing your experience. To my eye, I can't discern any notable difference here. I think you also have the SX70 which would be a more important comparison for me. Have you already shared that?

Yes, please. Your thoughts on the SX70, especially IQ vs SX50/60 and camera ergonomics. Thanks.

..Currently, ANAYV does not have the SX70 camera..

..ergonomically, all three cameras are about the same..

The one thing I disliked on the SX50 HS was the absence of a proximity sensor for the EVF. Drove me crazy....

Worse was the inferior resolution. It was behind the times

That drove me way more crazy than lack of eye sensor, to be honest.

That and the AF.

..the major differences are, SX50 (12mp), SX60 (16mp), SX70 (20mp)..

..if having a hotshoe is important, then get either the SX50 or SX60..

Never used the hotshoe so not a big deal. Always shoot outdoors in good light.

Same here. No use for the hot shoe...but it's nice to have, especially for those using a external mic. (SX60)

..if the quality of the EVF is important, the EVF gets better with each generation..

..if the buffer size is important, then get the SX70, which have an amazing buffer..

That's good to know. The SX50 was not a fast shooter or fast with the AF compared to my FZ300.

AF was terrible on the SX50. Among the worst of the superzooms I've used since 2004.

..if you have not seen this posting before, the below link have pictures from all three cameras..

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4366157

Not a great deal of difference though I expected a better performance from the SX70 in this comparison.

Many of us were hoping/expecting better I.Q. than the newer SX models can deliver.

Only those who shot with the SX50 can fully understand this. Especially once one goes to ISO 400 or higher.

SX50 is the clear, undisputed winner, with regards to I.Q.  of the last three SX models, IMHO.

That sensor was hard to beat..even now.

ANAYV

OP ANAYV Forum Pro • Posts: 23,926
Re: SX50 vs. SX60 - My thoughts. What About SX70 Thoughts?

Woody S wrote:

I've been an SX50 fan since it came out and have had three. The first died when I fell on it and destroyed the lens; the second, after in excess of 150,000 images, now has issues in extending and focusing the lens; the third is virtually new, purchased when it was one of the last new ones available. Long story short, I purchased an SX70 about a month ago and love the ergonomics and controls -- BUT, compared pictures from the SX50, I've been sorely disappointed with the SX70's image quality right out of the camera.

However, with a good bit of editing the SX70's images can be significantly improved. Here's just one photo comparison -- right out of the camera on top, after editing on the bottom --

This holds true for most ANY camera.

Improvements once one  edits the jpegs OOC.

Never did own a camera that didn't improve I.Q. after some adjustments in post.

Newer SX models than SX50 seem to have artifacts that the SX50 didn't have.

I think it's the sensors that Canon used to blame. I used to think the lens was worse on the SX60.

But it seems fine. Same lens is used on SX60 and SX70...so it's the sensor that has lowered the I.Q. somewhat.

Lens is able to deliver sharp results at the 1365mm end, as this thread with examples from SX60 and SX70 have shown.

ANAYV

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