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NoTx Senior Member • Posts: 2,071
Yes. Its one of those what lens…

So I can buy one lens. Goes to the happy wife, happy life type things. So, I am going to Cairo this year. It is an anniversary trip which is why I am in a quandary. So I have liquidated all my unused gear. I am down to: E-M1 (mk 1, E-M.1, however you wanna phrase it), 17/1.8, 45/1.8, 14-54/2.8-3.5 and 40-150/4-6.6. I normally have 3 batteries because the 14-54 is a battery hog. So, I am going to buy one lens. Which would you all recommend from this list?

  • 12-100mm/4
  • 12-200mm/3.5-6.3
  • 12mm/2

I only want to bring 2-3 lenses.  The 12mm would be way smaller... but am I giving up to much?

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AikenMooney Senior Member • Posts: 2,401
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Oly 12-100 Pro.

To me, it is first lens I would purchase for m4/3.

Enjoy your trip.

Skeeterbytes Forum Pro • Posts: 23,186
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Agree, the 12-100 without hesitation. Surely Oly's top do-all lens in 2019.

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Gato Amarillo Veteran Member • Posts: 9,353
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I'd definitely go for one of the zooms. It's a choice between longer reach or a faster lens, so which is more important to  you?

The 12-200 is just over a stop slower at the long end, where it is most important, but it has twice the reach and is a bit smaller and lighter, but only a bit. OTOH you'd probably need a tripod to take full advantage of the long end -- 400mm equivalent is a lot of length to hand hold.

The 12-100 would be noticeably better for low light, say late evening or in shaded street environment.

I'd go for the 12-100, but I rarely use long focal lengths. You may be different.

For a second lens I'd take the 17. For me that's a great length for people indoors, say around the table at a cafe and such. Or for environmental portraits.

The only argument I see for the 12 is if you are really into architectural interiors, to the point you are willing to give up the flexibility and range of the zoom.

Gato

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NoTx wrote:

So I can buy one lens. Goes to the happy wife, happy life type things. So, I am going to Cairo this year. It is an anniversary trip which is why I am in a quandary. So I have liquidated all my unused gear. I am down to: E-M1 (mk 1, E-M.1, however you wanna phrase it), 17/1.8, 45/1.8, 14-54/2.8-3.5 and 40-150/4-6.6.

You already have too many lenses.  For a trip like Egypt, you probably only need the 17 f/1.8 and the 45/1.8.  Take the 40-150 just in case but  I doubt you will need it.

I normally have 3 batteries because the 14-54 is a battery hog. So, I am going to buy one lens. Which would you all recommend from this list?

  • 12-100mm/4
  • 12-200mm/3.5-6.3
  • 12mm/2

None of those, too $$ and duplicates much of your existing range.

I only want to bring 2-3 lenses. The 12mm would be way smaller... but am I giving up to much?

Skip the 40-150 and try something really different, like a Samyang 7.5 mm or a rectilinear 8mm.  You could do some really creative things with interiors and landscapes with that.  Reasonably cheap too.

Tedolph

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DLBlack Forum Pro • Posts: 15,865
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Buy the 12-100 f4.0 lens.  It is a great lens.  It is weather resistant,  this means also dust resistant, when on the E-M1.  Then add your 17/1.8 and 45/1.8 for low light. It will make a nice 3 lens kit.  I am assuming you are not planning on doing serious wildlife photography.

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BruceRH Veteran Member • Posts: 3,087
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12-100, I doubt you will use much else. If you want, bring the 17 for night time but even then, the 12-100 works well at night unless you are trying to stop motion.

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Hey I spent all of January this year in Egypt and travelled the whole country. I’d just moved to M43 and took what I had at the time. EM1-1, 12-40mm 2.8, Panny 7-14mm 4.0 and plastic fantastic 40-150mm.

Egypt is dusty, including Cairo! I’d favour weather sealed kit where possible.

Anyhow I took about 3000 images of which about 2000 were with the 12-40mm and about 1000 with the 7-14mm. The 40-150mm I never used once, nor did I feel the need to.

I personally wouldn’t go to Egypt without an ultra wide, such as the 7-14mm or similar. You’ll need it inside tombs, museums and if you go to Old Cairo with it’s narrow streets etc.

BOTTOM LINE - I often found 12mm to be nowhere near wide enough......

If I were going today I’d now take my since upgraded kit of EM1-2, 7-14mm 2.8 and either my 12-40mm 2.8 or 12-100mm 4.0. I may throw my 25mm 1.8 in the bag too with the expectation of not using it.

Another option would be to consider the Panny Leica 8-18mm, thinking about it I’d be happy to do Egypt with just that one lens and nothing more, perhaps throwing a 45mm 1.8 in the bag as a longer portrait and low light lens.... in fact this is my absolute recommendation if you’re purchasing glass for this trip.

Have a fab trip, I loved it there!

Felice62 Veteran Member • Posts: 5,079
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I would personally buy the 12-100. It has been long enough on my wish list.

I were you I'd leave everything at home but take a second (recovery) body with me.

So EM1+12-100 +M10. markII  which could come free with your pro zoom purchase

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OP NoTx Senior Member • Posts: 2,071
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You do make me thing.  The most interesting is that you did 2/3 with you 12-40 and 1/3 with the 7-14.  Hmm.  But dust... definitely making me think here.  Can you by chance throw some tomb examples with settings in here?  I would love to see it.

Now you added two lenses to my quandary lol.

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jwilliams Veteran Member • Posts: 6,400
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NoTx wrote:

So I can buy one lens. Goes to the happy wife, happy life type things. So, I am going to Cairo this year. It is an anniversary trip which is why I am in a quandary. So I have liquidated all my unused gear. I am down to: E-M1 (mk 1, E-M.1, however you wanna phrase it), 17/1.8, 45/1.8, 14-54/2.8-3.5 and 40-150/4-6.6. I normally have 3 batteries because the 14-54 is a battery hog. So, I am going to buy one lens. Which would you all recommend from this list?

  • 12-100mm/4
  • 12-200mm/3.5-6.3
  • 12mm/2

I only want to bring 2-3 lenses. The 12mm would be way smaller... but am I giving up to much?

Easy one. 12-100 f4. The 12 f2 is only any good if you really need the f2. Lots of 12mm zooms with just as good IQ. The 12-200 is a consumer level zoom. I'd trade the extra 100mm for much better IQ any day.

Take the12-100 and the 17 1.8 for low light use and you're done.

EDIT:  Another thought.  Many people are recommending a wider lens and for where you are going it makes sense.  Get the PL 8-18.  This is quickly becoming one of my favorite lenses.  Going to 18mm makes it more flexible than UWAs that only go to 14.  Much less lens changing.  For your longer FL needs either carry your 40-150 or my recommendation is the Panny 35-100 4-5.6.  Very compact and better IQ than your 40-150.  I'd still take the 17 1.8 for a low light option personally.

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AikenMooney Senior Member • Posts: 2,401
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AikenMooney wrote:

Oly 12-100 Pro.

To me, it is first lens I would purchase for m4/3.

Enjoy your trip.

More from me,

We have been to Egypt twice & if I returned there or most anywhere else my basic travel kit would be 17mm f/1.8, 7-14 Pro & 12-100 Pro. Yes, many places where 12 mm is not wide enough however it will be on the camera 85-90% of the time. My 17mm/1.8 is sharp enough & very small. The other 2 are fairly heavy for a m4/3 lens. Great idea to have second body as things do happen.

We are going back to South Africa this fall & will visit a couple of game camps. I will add 40-150 Pro with MC-20 or  P100-400. I will carry a second body with weather sealing.

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12-100/4 hands down, it’s the most versatile lens m43 has, and easily my all-time m43 favorite.

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OP NoTx Senior Member • Posts: 2,071
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Thank you all for your input. Oddly I think this thread caused me extra questions I need to consider. As someone who had his widest ultra wide as an old zeiss 21mm/2.8 or Olympus 11-22mm... the idea wider is weird. It is also intriguing.

The consistent recomendations for 12-100mm also make things interesting.

Thank you.

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A word about zooms…

NoTx wrote:

Thank you all for your input. Oddly I think this thread caused me extra questions I need to consider. As someone who had his widest ultra wide as an old zeiss 21mm/2.8 or Olympus 11-22mm... the idea wider is weird. It is also intriguing.

The consistent recomendations for 12-100mm also make things interesting.

A word about zooms, particularly narrow range zooms.

I often found myself shoot in at the extremes are rarely in the middle.  So I concluded that I was better off with two faster primes near the ends of the range, e.g. a 17mm f/.18 and a 60mm f/2.8 rather than something like a 12-100.

Thank you.

Tedolph

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OP NoTx Senior Member • Posts: 2,071
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tedolf wrote:

A word about zooms, particularly narrow range zooms.

I often found myself shoot in at the extremes are rarely in the middle. So I concluded that I was better off with two faster primes near the ends of the range, e.g. a 17mm f/.18 and a 60mm f/2.8 rather than something like a 12-100.

Tedolph

My main thoughts are my time is also my wifes... and its a dusty place.  However, primes have ALWAYS been my preference.

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brentbrent Veteran Member • Posts: 5,767
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If you had two bodies and were taking both of them, I might say buy the 8-18 for one and put your 40-150 on the other.  With only one body, though, that could result in too much lens switching, so I'd also recommend that you buy the 12-100, which is fabulous.

The above assumes that you truly can only buy ONE lens. Otherwise, buy both the 8-18 and the 12-100!

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there is also the pl 10-25 f1.7 which would be be wide enough and bright enough ,but pricey enough ,although lacks on the tele side of things if it was cheaper I think I would own it myself.

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OP NoTx Senior Member • Posts: 2,071
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paul cool wrote:

there is also the pl 10-25 f1.7 which would be be wide enough and bright enough ,but pricey enough ,although lacks on the tele side of things if it was cheaper I think I would own it myself.

Too big for my trip... but oh wow. I have gotta get a justification for that one lol.

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OP NoTx Senior Member • Posts: 2,071
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tedolf wrote:

Skip the 40-150 and try something really different, like a Samyang 7.5 mm or a rectilinear 8mm. You could do some really creative things with interiors and landscapes with that. Reasonably cheap too.

Tedolph

You were the first to bring up a lens out of the line up.  Its got me thinking a lot.  So far this thread has totally screwed up my thought process LOL.

Now its:

  • 12-100mm/4 Olympus
  • 7.5/2 Laowa
  • 8mm/4 SLR Magic

It is making me think of different directions...

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