Lens is pretty sharp at telephoto end

machprt821 wrote:

wow, those bokeh are wonderfully beautiful, compliment the creatures' own. Thank you for sharing.

Thanks for commenting.

ANAYV

arnoud venema wrote:

Coming from the FZ82 what are the main differencies to the SX60 and 70?

I personally could not get anything out of the FZ82 without heavy editing, as all details were muddy (including tripod shots at ISO 80, F5.6, object almost full frame). I exchanged mine for an sx70. The viewfinder is much more useful and where I tended to use the LCD screen with my FZ82 (missing shots in the process), I tend to use the viewfinder now all the time. It also has a sensor which enables it automatically, which is nice.

Feather details were mostly lost with the FZ82.
It appears the same lens is used for both the SX70 and FZ82, but the latter rattled and had zoom jitter like crazy. I guess there is variation in quality for this particular lens. You're either lucky or unlucky. Both cameras should in fact produce very similar results and they have the exact same weaknesses. Neither are going to produce good images in bad lighting. Both need plenty of light and plenty of contrast.

teknoi wrote:

arnoud venema wrote:

Coming from the FZ82 what are the main differencies to the SX60 and 70?

I personally could not get anything out of the FZ82 without heavy editing, as all details were muddy (including tripod shots at ISO 80, F5.6, object almost full frame). I exchanged mine for an sx70. The viewfinder is much more useful and where I tended to use the LCD screen with my FZ82 (missing shots in the process), I tend to use the viewfinder now all the time. It also has a sensor which enables it automatically, which is nice.

Feather details were mostly lost with the FZ82.
It appears the same lens is used for both the SX70 and FZ82, but the latter rattled and had zoom jitter like crazy. I guess there is variation in quality for this particular lens.

Probably down to the price difference showing in quality. The FZ82 is very cheap so alright for the price but the SX70 seems to be the better option. Of course the focusing modes in the Canon are just small centre or everything I believe still which puts me off.

I have an FZ330 but with its limited reach the SX70 seems a better option but with a telephone wire across my garden the focusing options in Canon are just too basic. For photographing the rare aircraft that passes overhead nowadays or birds a large resizable centre rectangle is far more convenient. I sold my G3X because the focusing options were so rudimentary even though it was better than these small sensor options. I doubt if Canon will improve this though. The G3X was typical example of how stripped down these cameras are with minimum real investment and everything bought in probably or left the same and no updating of the model.

Worth anyone researching this before getting one of these Canons. The focusing  facilities are just essentially the old point and shoot family snapshot modes handed down through time and speeded up irrespective of what the camera is for.

You're either lucky or unlucky. Both cameras should in fact produce very similar results and they have the exact same weaknesses. Neither are going to produce good images in bad lighting. Both need plenty of light and plenty of contrast.

The FZ8x indeed has more focusing options with a rectangle that can be resized, but it always seemed like more of a software gimmick since the focusing was always off (for my purposes anyway). Single point focus on either camera does ok.

Both use contrast focus, so I quickly turned to burst shots and plenty of patience to get shots that were in focus with either camera.

teknoi wrote:

The FZ8x indeed has more focusing options with a rectangle that can be resized, but it always seemed like more of a software gimmick since the focusing was always off (for my purposes anyway). Single point focus on either camera does ok.

Both use contrast focus, so I quickly turned to burst shots and plenty of patience to get shots that were in focus with either camera.

I am not sure that a larger box can be termed a gimmick even if you found its implementation in the FZ87 less than satisfactory. I did switch to the FZ330 myself though the short reach and narrower field of view is a downside.

I am just warning that trying to get a flying object in the small boxes on a Canon is difficult and any clutter in the image makes using the only alternative which is the whole image difficult in my particular environment. If that is OK for you and others fine.

As I said worth researching at least before committing for anyone looking in to choosing between the two.