So finally saying goodbye to m4/3 (sad)

Donald B wrote:

MinAZ wrote:

Technically the EM1-X is the flagship now.

no its not , just like the d5 isnt the flagship over the d850. its a sports camera . it doesnt offer anything over my em12 in the studio.

Don

The E-M1X is most definitely the flagship model.  The "flagship" is by definition the model that has the most powerful features.  It's supposed to showcase what the company is capable of.  That doesn't mean it will be the absolute best in every single thing possible (particularly when you factor in price), but it is supposed to have the most power.  That its power might not offer you anything extra in a studio setting doesn't make that any less true.

Just because I've gone the contrarian route, I'll contest your statement about Nikon's models as well If you Google for "Nikon flagship" the D5 is the first result.  B&H even has a category called"Nikon flagship cameras" which lists the D5 for the first two entries, and the D500 (evidently the flagship model for the DX (APS-C) sensor line) for the following two.  Those are the highest of the high end you can get, although admittedly I don't know enough about Nikon's lineup to explain more specifics.  I also acknowledge that technological advances can make things awkward at times.  Companies aren't refreshing their entire lineup at the same time anymore, which leads to situations where the flagship model contains some outdated features... at least, until it receives the next update.

Donald B wrote:

MinAZ wrote:

New Day Rising wrote:

Smaug01 wrote:

For wildlife, it seems full frame is stronger. (except the lenses are monstrous)

You should keep one µ4/3 body and a fast prime to have something compact.

He is keeping two m4/3 bodies, including a flagship E-M1ii, and "a bunch" of lenses, including some pro lenses.

Anyway, you'll be back,

He hasn't gone anywhere. Downsized while keeping a full system's worth of gear.

once you realize µ4/3 is the happy medium. You'll find yourself leaving the full frame gear behind,

That's what he has decided to do and is keeping a full m4/3 system for travel and a range of other purposes and a full frame system for his most serious work.

then you'll remember and come back. That's my bet, anyway.

I dabbled in full frame too. By the time they were truly capable, the lenses were just too big and heavy.

The bonus when you DO come back is that you can adapt some of the big glass for µ4/3.

He isn't going anywhere.

Technically the EM1-X is the flagship now.

no its not , just like the d5 isnt the flagship over the d850. its a sports camera . it doesnt offer anything over my em12 in the studio.

Don

Our (presumably) Arizonan friend is right - the EM-1X did replace the EM-1ii as the flagship. As has been noted, the flagship is the top of the line model, with all the top features (and perhaps invariably the top price). They are often well-suited to sports pros - like the Nikon D5 and Canon 1Dwhatever flagships. Whether those features are useful to you personally doesn't suddenly make the one you prefer become the flagship.

This is what saying goodbye looks like:

Having an OMD-EM1 Mark II, a PEN E-PL6, a couple of pro lenses, a bunch of fun lenses, and speedlites.

LOL. It's so hard to say goodbye.

Having added 35mm format to my kit this year, saying "goodbye" to MFT will entail keeping two bodies, six or seven lenses, and two speedlights. IOW, having a full pro MFT kit.

I'll keep shooting both kits side-by-side.

New Day Rising wrote:

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Our (presumably) Arizonan friend is right - the EM-1X did replace the EM-1ii as the flagship. As has been noted, the flagship is the top of the line model, with all the top features (and perhaps invariably the top price). They are often well-suited to sports pros - like the Nikon D5 and Canon 1Dwhatever flagships. Whether those features are useful to you personally doesn't suddenly make the one you prefer become the flagship.

I have two friends that have replaced their professional Canon gear with an E-M1X each, neither having had a long walk with m43 before they switched, for one of them it was the first m43 ever (as far as I'm aware), the other had tested some the last year, or so, before switching.

Both are wildlife experts, one of them live by writing books, and illustrating them with his own shots, the other just love using cameras and enjoy traveling in his off time.

These cameras have replaced ID X cameras with a lot of sweet ( & costly ) lenses, and neither seems to be willing to change back to FF.

These guys are experts, not the average joe, so it isn't surprising they get more out of their new gear than normal 1D X users do, and they don't shoot sport.

Both are getting to an age when 80 lbs. backpacks mostly filled with camera gear isn't fun anymore.

One of them, soon 70, climbed Mount Everest recently together with his lady (they celebrated their 50th anniversary in the base camp!), and he wrote that he wouldn't have done it with his old, heavy, gear!
Due to their proven skill, they get the newest lenses and TCs long before us normal punters, but naturally, as they make a very good case for getting an E-M1X. Or two.

Definitely a flagship camera!

Wish I could afford one!

So you're saying "goodbye" and selling everything-- except for two m4/3 bodies and a bunch of m4/3 lenses.  That doesn't sound like "goodbye" to me!

There is no way around bigger is better, but as technology improves and image processing improves the smallest become better and better, but that is also true for the biggest there is. The smallest will never catch up, but by stacking images even a tiny sensor can sometimes do wonders. But the present crop of MF cameras are awesome, and they are also moving forward.

Bigger is better but those old aps-c sensors are no match for latest tiny 1" stacked sensors. Like an old V8 compared to 1L turbo injection twin spark 16v computer managed engine.

RED i wrote:

MinAZ wrote:

but that, let's face it, the files coming out from the full frame are just easier to edit (this was the smoking gun in the end).

LOL, you should probably learn to expose properly first.

Why the personal attack?

Jan