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So finally saying goodbye to m4/3 (sad)

Started Jul 28, 2019 | Discussions
OlympicGuy Senior Member • Posts: 2,060
Editing?

In what photographic shooting environments are you not able to adequately edit with a u4/3 system but you can with FF?

It is for exposure/dynamic range limitations?

Fast action in low light?

G Dickson
G Dickson Senior Member • Posts: 1,762
Re: So finally saying goodbye to m4/3 (sad)
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RED i wrote:

MinAZ wrote:

but that, let's face it, the files coming out from the full frame are just easier to edit (this was the smoking gun in the end).

LOL, you should probably learn to expose properly first.

To be fair the OP does have a point here.  Files coming out of my 6Dii are capable of a lot more pushing/pulling and adjustment than files coming out of my em10 and em10ii.

I do a lot of landscape or astroscape stuff and this then  can be very important.  Strobed portraits for example less so.   The other evening I was trying to raise the exposure level on some astroscapes on both the em10 and the 6dii and the differences were vast.

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Aaron801 Veteran Member • Posts: 7,900
Re: So finally saying goodbye to m4/3 (sad)
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MinAZ wrote:

sean000 wrote:

MinAZ wrote:

So I have sold all my gear except for a few things that I am keeping just for fun/travel/wildlife photography: the OMD-EM1 Mark II (still like this one for the IBIS, and high-res mode), the PEN E-PL6 (for fun and when I travel), a couple of pro lenses for wildlife and travel, a bunch of the fun lenses, and I decided to keep the speedlites because you really don't get that much for selling them. But I've gotten rid of all the rest.

...so it’s not really goodbye? That sounds like a fairly complete kit to me.

So did I make the right decision? I don't know for sure. But I have been using both systems extensively, and as the age of Full Frame mirrorless is ascendant (and the bodies become almost as compact as the EM1 line), I just cannot justify owning both anymore.

I’m confused... in the previous paragraph you say you’re keeping some m4/3 gear.

Personally I think it’s fine to own more than one system. That said, I’m selling off the Nikon lenses and speedlights I have owned for 15 years. I just don’t use it much anymore, because m4/3 fits my lifestyle at the moment. I’m sure it will change, and I will probably be shooting with something else in 10 years... or not. Hard to guess what the future will bring.

Sorry, I realize I was unclear. I sold off all my m4/3 gear except the few items listed above. Now that I look back at how I phrased it, I can see how it could seem contradictory. Correctly, I should have said that I am saying a final goodbye to most of my m4/3 gear and turning to full frame, with the exception of some gear that I am keeping because there are still some cases when I will want to use m4/3, such as when I want a long telephoto lens or when I wish to travel light. But I have gotten rid of the vast majority of the stuff including the three f/1.2 primes, the 12-40mm zoom, etc... Right now all I have can easily fit into a single Pelican case.

It sounds like you're selling off more m43 gear than a lot of us even own... It sounds like you're just using two systems, rather than dumping one for the other. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

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ZeBebito
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Re: So finally saying goodbye to m4/3 (sad)
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Okapi001 wrote:

MinAZ wrote:

So I have sold all my gear except for a few things that I am keeping just for fun/travel/wildlife photography: the OMD-EM1 Mark II (still like this one for the IBIS, and high-res mode), the PEN E-PL6 (for fun and when I travel), a couple of pro lenses for wildlife and travel, a bunch of the fun lenses, and I decided to keep the speedlites because you really don't get that much for selling them.

What a pointless thread, not to mention a completely misleading titel.

You still have what somebody would call a full kit (two bodies, including a semi-pro one and a couple of pro lense), and you will use it for what represents the whole point of photography for many (fun, travel, wildlife).

"I am saying a final goodbye to most of my m4/3 gear and turning to full frame, with the exception of some gear that I am keeping"

So at the end he is saying good bye to nothing. LOL

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Yes this is weird. OP is not saying goodbye to m43 after all, as there’s a lot of m43 gear left. What an odd post.

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Aberaeron Forum Pro • Posts: 10,184
Re: So finally saying goodbye to m4/3 (sad)

MinAZ wrote:

Belgarchi wrote:

I would keep both. There is a large difference in terms of sensor size / resolution and weight of these systems.

Why not keep the M43 for discreet reportage, nature trekking, sports, air travels, wildlife for example, and FF for high resolution, low light, interiors, urban and nature landscape (near your car) photography?

It's a lot of gear lol. My entire closet is full of photography stuff, and we called quits when my garage started filling up to. Yeah, Houston we have a problem. We needed to downsize so we just couldn't keep everything.

You could have stopped buying and/or probably built a second bigger garage. 

UppercanadianAcadian Regular Member • Posts: 467
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Camera equipment are just tools for us to use.

Equipment comes and goes, and it is important to not get tangled into the mentality of belonging to a tribe.

i use Olympus because of the size, price, and familiarity.

The corporation of Olympus doesn’t give a tinker’s damn about me.

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Thin_Ice Regular Member • Posts: 426
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Okapi001 wrote:

What a pointless thread, not to mention a completely misleading titel.

You still have what somebody would call a full kit (two bodies, including a semi-pro one and a couple of pro lense), and you will use it for what represents the whole point of photography for many (fun, travel, wildlife).

+1

He owns more mft gear than I will ever buy for my “primary” (&only) camera system....

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MinAZ wrote:

Landscapephoto99 wrote:

I don't find the same about post-processing FF v. m43 files, but why not make a change and see if you like it? Try a new road and see where it leads. No need to be sad, enjoy.

I get attached to gear sometimes. It was because of that I even waited as long as I did. Even my wife was kinda unsure about the whole thing, when she saw me haul the boxes of equipment off the KEH, she kept asking me if I was sure. I told her it was now or never, if I changed my mind I might never get to it again. But yes, its a new (full frame) day!

Yeah, I got an RP earlier this year, and spent a fair bit of time trying to decide what M43 stuff to keep and what to move on (Have to sell one set to pay for the other, you know?)

In the end, I decided to keep the GX8, GM5 and its kit 12-32 and 35-100, Oly macro 30mm and the little fisheye lens cap thingie. I sold all of my very much loved higher end lenses, which was PAINFUL, (PL 100-400mm, Oly 12mm f2, PL 45mm macro, and the Panasonic 12-35mm f2.8), and instead just picked up a Panasonic 100-300mm mk II. So, now I have a diminutive M43 kit for long tele and travel, and the FF kit for everything else. They complement each other in terms of focal lengths vs weight, so I am happy.

It was hard to sell all of those better M43 lenses though.....No regrets now, however, just a pang when I was deciding and when I actually sent them off to their new abode.

-J

addlightness Veteran Member • Posts: 3,641
Arizona heatwave

usually makes one says funny things.

Same thing happened to me in California during the 2015 heatwave.  I said 'goodbye' to my Nikon bodies and 10 prime/zoom lenses and switched to m43.  True story.

Except, of course, my trusty Nikon D90 + 35mm/f1.8 + 50mm/f1.8 + SB-600 flash for reasons I can't remember.

 

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E_ B Senior Member • Posts: 1,853
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I’m sure you’ll like your new FF forum just as much as you’ve enjoyed this one.

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Re: So finally saying goodbye to m4/3 (sad)

MinAZ wrote:

glassoholic wrote:

MinAZ wrote:

It's been a long journey, from 4/3 to m4/3 and owning various cameras and lenses from both manufacturers, and now finally, it is time to say goodbye. In the end, I will say this: I got many great images from m4/3, it is a very decent system for those whose needs it fits, and Olympus in particular has some very nice glass. There are a few advantages unique to m4/3. But ultimately, shooting m4/3 and full frame side by side for several years, I can no longer deny that I feel more confident with the full frame system. Its not that I usually can't take the photo with Olympus, but that, let's face it, the files coming out from the full frame are just easier to edit (this was the smoking gun in the end).

So I have sold all my gear except for a few things that I am keeping just for fun/travel/wildlife photography: the OMD-EM1 Mark II (still like this one for the IBIS, and high-res mode), the PEN E-PL6 (for fun and when I travel), a couple of pro lenses for wildlife and travel, a bunch of the fun lenses, and I decided to keep the speedlites because you really don't get that much for selling them. But I've gotten rid of all the rest.

So did I make the right decision? I don't know for sure. But I have been using both systems extensively, and as the age of Full Frame mirrorless is ascendant (and the bodies become almost as compact as the EM1 line), I just cannot justify owning both anymore.

Fair enough... although it seems you still have more m43 gear than many here lol!

Just curious... did you ever process RAW with DXO Photolab 2 + PRIME? If this software did not exist, I probably wouldn't have invested as heavily in m43 as I have.

Well I still have some m4/3 as you say, maybe I will give that a go. What is the difference with DXO? Does it do a particularly good job with Olympus raw files? I no longer own any Panasonic bodies so that wouldn't be useful to me.

DXO PL 2 + PRIME for RAW m43 files should be on your radar... try it... you may be very pleasantly surprised.

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Am I the only one who really does not "get" this thread?

Sounds to me like you have more money than you know what to do with (garage full of gear - and that's the stuff you got rid of)

My question is this:

Can you show the impact on your output?

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The Mann Clann New Member • Posts: 5
Re: So finally saying goodbye to m4/3 (sad)

I think I'm soon going to be in a similar position. Which FF did you choose?

daleeight Veteran Member • Posts: 3,199
Well...
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I finally said goodbye to my Wife. Well, she still lives here, but we said goodbye...

Same thing right?

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I have a Samsung NX10 ...
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I have not quite said goodbye to my Canon EF dslr bodies even though I still have a lot of EF lenses.

My Ricoh cameras are still considered both friends and acquaintances.

Even my NEX6 and I are still talking.  My A7R is a bit of a ruffian but although we don’t speak much these days - I have not said goodbye.

Even my Samsung NX10 still gets it batteries topped up from time to time.

Of course my M4/3 gear and I am best friends, but they all understand that I am not about to replace them with my new friend the S1.

In all I am quite stupid and I will have soon to add-a-room to accommodate such a lot of friends.

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RobbieBear wrote:

Am I the only one who really does not "get" this thread?

Sounds to me like you have more money than you know what to do with (garage full of gear - and that's the stuff you got rid of)

My question is this:

Can you show the impact on your output?

I also have more money than sense and have too much camera gear but I rationalise that I enjoy collecting and that some other people collect stamps (which I personally think is crazy) - others collect all sorts of different things - but if there is no doubt that rationalising unused stuff is quite sensible (if we can accept the double meaning there) - it is just that when I do rationalise things that I don’t need by getting rid of them (as I sometimes do ) I don’t feel that I have to tell the world that I have done so in a dramatic manner.  But of course there is no issue in doing so (rationalising in any particular manner).

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Completely understand. I've been trying to downsize...

Completely understand. I've been trying to downsize everything for the past few years. For example, from big townhouse to smaller and smaller apartments and now working on an efficiency, all without renting a storage unit (which defeats the purpose).

Have had a lot of trouble over the years downsizing my airline baggage, for example, when traveling for a month or so. Next trip will be the first attempt.using carry-on only. Other people do it regularly, but it's been a challenge for m as I just need to have that umpteenth pair of socks...

Although I haven't unloaded my photo hardware yet, I have gotten it down to m4/3, and a few choice travel cameras, such as the Sony RX10 series. Now, working on reducing that to the RX100 size cameras and GoPro. Luckily for me, the best resolution and ability to blow up photos for the walls or similar, is no longer an issue. As long as I can show and make files available to friends, students, etc., who require no more than YouTube and email quality, I'm happy. As I have moved increasingly to video, the same downsizing is being done.

The exceptions to the above is that I still keep RAWs of the few worthy photos, just in case, and still store the highest quality of the videos, the latter because sites like schoolrooms and similar are constantly upgrading their abilities to host higher quality, larger screens, and the like. So, even though I don't need 4K video for most of my needs now, I will shoot in that because I know the need is almost here.

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Doesn’t sound like goodbye.....
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....... just an adjustment in gear. I have a lot of friends that recently added an E-M1 II with a few lenses to augment their FF kits. Same reasons, light travel and telephoto wildlife.... keeping the FF for landscapes or studio.

Sounds like you just brought everything back into balance.  Enjoy!

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Corkcampbell wrote:

Have had a lot of trouble over the years downsizing my airline baggage, for example, when traveling for a month or so. Next trip will be the first attempt.using carry-on only. Other people do it regularly, but it's been a challenge for m as I just need to have that umpteenth pair of socks...

This is WAAAAY off-topic but: a few years ago I started wearing lightweight, wool hiking socks when I travel.  They seem to stay dryer than cotton and can go longer before stinking, even in hot climates.  One pair last 3-4 days before requiring a change. So give them a try.  Also, getting the short socks (just up to your ankles) means less bulk.

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