Suggestion for D850 custom controls

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TAM63 Senior Member • Posts: 2,633
Suggestion for D850 custom controls

I have been looking through the manuals, wondering if there is something I'm missing re. an easy way to do what I am trying to accomplish.

I shoot a lot of wildlife, generally with a heavy lens. So my left hand is generally on the lens.

I most often shoot manual with auto-ISO, highlights weighted metering, using +/- as needed. Obviously I change that sometimes as needed, but that is what I use most frequently.

So far, I have the following controls set up:

Camera custom controls:
AF-ON = AF-ON, group
PV = AF-ON, single point
FN1 = AE lock, reset on release

MB-D18 custom controls:
FN + dials = +/-
AF-ON = AF-ON, single point

The above allows me to shoot action (I like group) using my thumb, or use single point as desired for still subjects. Usually if I'm in portrait mode (using the grip) its not action, so I'm trying that at single point for the time being.

I need to play with this, but I am wondering if my AE lock, reset on release should not include reset on release - I presume I'd just have to hit the button again to turn this off?

What I'd like to be able to do easily, in either landscape or portrait orientation, is to have spot metering and AE lock. Of course I can change the metering mode, but that needs my left hand and isn't quick.

I wish I could set one button, or 2 that I can reach easily to lock the exposure on the point that I select (in landscape or portrait). And then I might recompose, then focus and shoot.

Any ideas?

Nikon D850
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FrankG Senior Member • Posts: 1,966
Re: Suggestion for D850 custom controls

TAM63 wrote:

I have been looking through the manuals, wondering if there is something I'm missing re. an easy way to do what I am trying to accomplish.

I shoot a lot of wildlife, generally with a heavy lens. So my left hand is generally on the lens.

I most often shoot manual with auto-ISO, highlights weighted metering, using +/- as needed. Obviously I change that sometimes as needed, but that is what I use most frequently.

So far, I have the following controls set up:

Camera custom controls:
AF-ON = AF-ON, group
PV = AF-ON, single point
FN1 = AE lock, reset on release

MB-D18 custom controls:
FN + dials = +/-
AF-ON = AF-ON, single point

The above allows me to shoot action (I like group) using my thumb, or use single point as desired for still subjects. Usually if I'm in portrait mode (using the grip) its not action, so I'm trying that at single point for the time being.

I need to play with this, but I am wondering if my AE lock, reset on release should not include reset on release - I presume I'd just have to hit the button again to turn this off?

What I'd like to be able to do easily, in either landscape or portrait orientation, is to have spot metering and AE lock. Of course I can change the metering mode, but that needs my left hand and isn't quick.

I wish I could set one button, or 2 that I can reach easily to lock the exposure on the point that I select (in landscape or portrait). And then I might recompose, then focus and shoot.

Any ideas?

Only got my D850 (an almost mint used example) a week ago and the first thing I asked the dealer in the store was whether it might be possible to setup a function button to instantly switch to spot-metering mode as I have exactly the same issue as you with long heavy lenses - impossible to use the existing controls on the left side of the camera while left hand is occupied supporting the end of the long lens. My D500 cannot do this - there is no assignment of alternative metering functions to any function button available, all the options are for AF options only. My D810 (which I traded in) had the opposite problem - it could only do alternative metering assignments with no facility for assigning any alternative AF functions.

So I was delighted to discover that with the D850 Nikon have expanded the range of options - one of the guys in the shop demonstrated how to assign the FN1 button to Spot metering as an example.

I subsequently tinkered around with settings for a bit and decided to set the "Sub-selector" set for focus point selection and "Sub-selector center" set to Spot metering.

I use the PV (preview) button for Group AF mode.

I use the FN1 + thumbwheel assigned to "Choose Image Area".

My "AF-ON" button is currently setup for "AF-area mode + AF ON" and with the area mode set to "Auto-area AF". I use that for tracking BIF especially erratic flying birds against the sky.

I normally otherwise just use half-shutter press to activate AF for whatever default AF mode I have preset - usually D9 or D25.

Those assignments are similar to my D500 with the exception of the "Sub-selector center" which cannot be assigned to "Spot metering" on the D500 (at least not so far - maybe Nikon will offer this via a firmware update ???).

Is any of that useful to you?

Frank

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BrownieVet Senior Member • Posts: 1,834
Are you aware of the FOUR Custom Setting & FOUR Shooting Banks?

Re: Suggestion for D850 custom controls

I do own D800, NOT own a D850 but the four banks are practically identical in D8XX series. Default names are A, B, C, and D.

After you customized the settings, save those settings in the memory card(s). I saved the settings in my computer and also copy that file on every memory card I use on D800. If you accidentally or purposely made changes on one or more banks but decided to revert to those settings, simply re-load the settings from the memory card. I think the file size is about 200k. Saving & Loading Setting are via SETUP MENU.

CAVEAT: Any changes you make to your customized setting will alter the setting for the ACTIVE shooting mode.

.

I customized each bank to suit my preferences and renamed each as follows:
A = Action, B = Bust (as bust shot in portrait) , C = sCenic and D= Default for my general photography. You could of course use whatever name you prefer for the settings dedicated to your purpose. I created a spreadsheet of my settings, unfortunately, DPR does not allow Excel file upload.

.

Steve Perry (NOT the original Frontman of the Journey) has several videos tutorials, practically exclusive to Nikon DSLR. Here is a link to his video "Secrets To Stunning Wildlife Photography"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J5rU2Fq5E8

From this video, you will find many other tutorials on Nikon Secrets, Tricks and Tips.

TAM63 wrote:

I have been looking through the manuals, wondering if there is something I'm missing re. an easy way to do what I am trying to accomplish.

I shoot a lot of wildlife, generally with a heavy lens. So my left hand is generally on the lens.

I most often shoot manual with auto-ISO, highlights weighted metering, using +/- as needed. Obviously I change that sometimes as needed, but that is what I use most frequently.

So far, I have the following controls set up:

Camera custom controls:
AF-ON = AF-ON, group
PV = AF-ON, single point
FN1 = AE lock, reset on release

MB-D18 custom controls:
FN + dials = +/-
AF-ON = AF-ON, single point

The above allows me to shoot action (I like group) using my thumb, or use single point as desired for still subjects. Usually if I'm in portrait mode (using the grip) its not action, so I'm trying that at single point for the time being.

I need to play with this, but I am wondering if my AE lock, reset on release should not include reset on release - I presume I'd just have to hit the button again to turn this off?

What I'd like to be able to do easily, in either landscape or portrait orientation, is to have spot metering and AE lock. Of course I can change the metering mode, but that needs my left hand and isn't quick.

I wish I could set one button, or 2 that I can reach easily to lock the exposure on the point that I select (in landscape or portrait). And then I might recompose, then focus and shoot.

Any ideas?

OP TAM63 Senior Member • Posts: 2,633
Re: Suggestion for D850 custom controls

FrankG wrote:

TAM63 wrote:

I have been looking through the manuals, wondering if there is something I'm missing re. an easy way to do what I am trying to accomplish.

I shoot a lot of wildlife, generally with a heavy lens. So my left hand is generally on the lens.

I most often shoot manual with auto-ISO, highlights weighted metering, using +/- as needed. Obviously I change that sometimes as needed, but that is what I use most frequently.

So far, I have the following controls set up:

Camera custom controls:
AF-ON = AF-ON, group
PV = AF-ON, single point
FN1 = AE lock, reset on release

MB-D18 custom controls:
FN + dials = +/-
AF-ON = AF-ON, single point

The above allows me to shoot action (I like group) using my thumb, or use single point as desired for still subjects. Usually if I'm in portrait mode (using the grip) its not action, so I'm trying that at single point for the time being.

I need to play with this, but I am wondering if my AE lock, reset on release should not include reset on release - I presume I'd just have to hit the button again to turn this off?

What I'd like to be able to do easily, in either landscape or portrait orientation, is to have spot metering and AE lock. Of course I can change the metering mode, but that needs my left hand and isn't quick.

I wish I could set one button, or 2 that I can reach easily to lock the exposure on the point that I select (in landscape or portrait). And then I might recompose, then focus and shoot.

Any ideas?

Only got my D850 (an almost mint used example) a week ago and the first thing I asked the dealer in the store was whether it might be possible to setup a function button to instantly switch to spot-metering mode as I have exactly the same issue as you with long heavy lenses - impossible to use the existing controls on the left side of the camera while left hand is occupied supporting the end of the long lens. My D500 cannot do this - there is no assignment of alternative metering functions to any function button available, all the options are for AF options only. My D810 (which I traded in) had the opposite problem - it could only do alternative metering assignments with no facility for assigning any alternative AF functions.

So I was delighted to discover that with the D850 Nikon have expanded the range of options - one of the guys in the shop demonstrated how to assign the FN1 button to Spot metering as an example.

I subsequently tinkered around with settings for a bit and decided to set the "Sub-selector" set for focus point selection and "Sub-selector center" set to Spot metering.

I use the PV (preview) button for Group AF mode.

I use the FN1 + thumbwheel assigned to "Choose Image Area".

My "AF-ON" button is currently setup for "AF-area mode + AF ON" and with the area mode set to "Auto-area AF". I use that for tracking BIF especially erratic flying birds against the sky.

I normally otherwise just use half-shutter press to activate AF for whatever default AF mode I have preset - usually D9 or D25.

Those assignments are similar to my D500 with the exception of the "Sub-selector center" which cannot be assigned to "Spot metering" on the D500 (at least not so far - maybe Nikon will offer this via a firmware update ???).

Is any of that useful to you?

Frank

Thank you!  I'll look more into that.  If I can find two things I can hold at the same time to do spot metering, and exposure lock, I'll be golden

OP TAM63 Senior Member • Posts: 2,633
Re: Are you aware of the FOUR Custom Setting & FOUR Shooting Banks?

BrownieVet wrote:

Re: Suggestion for D850 custom controls

I do own D800, NOT own a D850 but the four banks are practically identical in D8XX series. Default names are A, B, C, and D.

After you customized the settings, save those settings in the memory card(s). I saved the settings in my computer and also copy that file on every memory card I use on D800. If you accidentally or purposely made changes on one or more banks but decided to revert to those settings, simply re-load the settings from the memory card. I think the file size is about 200k. Saving & Loading Setting are via SETUP MENU.

CAVEAT: Any changes you make to your customized setting will alter the setting for the ACTIVE shooting mode.

.

I customized each bank to suit my preferences and renamed each as follows:
A = Action, B = Bust (as bust shot in portrait) , C = sCenic and D= Default for my general photography. You could of course use whatever name you prefer for the settings dedicated to your purpose. I created a spreadsheet of my settings, unfortunately, DPR does not allow Excel file upload.

.

Steve Perry (NOT the original Frontman of the Journey) has several videos tutorials, practically exclusive to Nikon DSLR. Here is a link to his video "Secrets To Stunning Wildlife Photography"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J5rU2Fq5E8

From this video, you will find many other tutorials on Nikon Secrets, Tricks and Tips.

TAM63 wrote:

I have been looking through the manuals, wondering if there is something I'm missing re. an easy way to do what I am trying to accomplish.

I shoot a lot of wildlife, generally with a heavy lens. So my left hand is generally on the lens.

I most often shoot manual with auto-ISO, highlights weighted metering, using +/- as needed. Obviously I change that sometimes as needed, but that is what I use most frequently.

So far, I have the following controls set up:

Camera custom controls:
AF-ON = AF-ON, group
PV = AF-ON, single point
FN1 = AE lock, reset on release

MB-D18 custom controls:
FN + dials = +/-
AF-ON = AF-ON, single point

The above allows me to shoot action (I like group) using my thumb, or use single point as desired for still subjects. Usually if I'm in portrait mode (using the grip) its not action, so I'm trying that at single point for the time being.

I need to play with this, but I am wondering if my AE lock, reset on release should not include reset on release - I presume I'd just have to hit the button again to turn this off?

What I'd like to be able to do easily, in either landscape or portrait orientation, is to have spot metering and AE lock. Of course I can change the metering mode, but that needs my left hand and isn't quick.

I wish I could set one button, or 2 that I can reach easily to lock the exposure on the point that I select (in landscape or portrait). And then I might recompose, then focus and shoot.

Any ideas?

Thank you.  I am aware of the menu banks.  But I find them so cumbersome that I do not use them. I want to do these changes very quickly, while shooting - I can't be going into menus.

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