A7 + Sony 16-35 f4 (Tamron 17-28 f2.8) OR A7RII + 28mm f2 (Samyang 24 2.8). And why?

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zalmanium Forum Member • Posts: 73
A7 + Sony 16-35 f4 (Tamron 17-28 f2.8) OR A7RII + 28mm f2 (Samyang 24 2.8). And why?

Hello everyone,

If you would be able to choose between those 2 kits, which one would you choose and why?

1. Sony A7 + Sony 16-35 f4 (or tamron 17-28 f2.8)

2. Sony ARII + Sony 28mm f2 (or samyang 24mm f2.8)

Both kits are around the same price, where the first one the body is cheaper than the lens and second one the other way around.

FYI: At the moment I travel with a a6000 with 10-18 as walkaround and 24mm 1.8 for evening/night/portrait. This could be used for travel and portrait.

Curious to see your thoughts

Thank you!

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lehill
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Re: A7 + Sony 16-35 f4 (Tamron 17-28 f2.8) OR A7RII + 28mm f2 (Samyang 24 2.8). And why?

zalmanium wrote:

Hello everyone,

If you would be able to choose between those 2 kits, which one would you choose and why?

1. Sony A7 + Sony 16-35 f4 (or tamron 17-28 f2.8)

2. Sony ARII + Sony 28mm f2 (or samyang 24mm f2.8)

Both kits are around the same price, where the first one the body is cheaper than the lens and second one the other way around.

FYI: At the moment I travel with a a6000 with 10-18 as walkaround and 24mm 1.8 for evening/night/portrait. This could be used for travel and portrait.

Curious to see your thoughts

Thank you!

I'd step away from the A7 combo mainly because of the lack of  camera SteadyShot and less advanced OSPDAF focus system.

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golfhov Forum Pro • Posts: 10,623
Re: A7 + Sony 16-35 f4 (Tamron 17-28 f2.8) OR A7RII + 28mm f2 (Samyang 24 2.8). And why?

zalmanium wrote:

Hello everyone,

If you would be able to choose between those 2 kits, which one would you choose and why?

1. Sony A7 + Sony 16-35 f4 (or tamron 17-28 f2.8)

two nice (hypotheticaly on the tamron) BUT the original a7 has an ok sensor and is plenty useable but lacks a lot of things that really make it stand out from your a6000

2. Sony ARII + Sony 28mm f2 (or samyang 24mm f2.8)

body is FAR better. AF, IBIS, and sensor. Pass on the 24. It is a "fun" lens but Not very good

Both kits are around the same price, where the first one the body is cheaper than the lens and second one the other way around.

FYI: At the moment I travel with a a6000 with 10-18 as walkaround and 24mm 1.8 for evening/night/portrait. This could be used for travel and portrait.

are you going to keep it?

Curious to see your thoughts

Thank you!

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OP zalmanium Forum Member • Posts: 73
Re: A7 + Sony 16-35 f4 (Tamron 17-28 f2.8) OR A7RII + 28mm f2 (Samyang 24 2.8). And why?

So right now both opinions go to the A7RII + 28mm f2.
Problem is that the wide angle option on full frame costs an arm and a leg (compared to a6000 10-18) :/

Or am I looking at it wrong?

golfhov Forum Pro • Posts: 10,623
Re: A7 + Sony 16-35 f4 (Tamron 17-28 f2.8) OR A7RII + 28mm f2 (Samyang 24 2.8). And why?

zalmanium wrote:

So right now both opinions go to the A7RII + 28mm f2.

It's just a LOT of people greatly prefer the r2. That said.

What exact improvements do you expect?

How do you feel about the current AF and IQ of your a6000?

Problem is that the wide angle option on full frame costs an arm and a leg (compared to a6000 10-18) :/

Don't know the retail of that one now. $800. It just is what it is. If the lenses you want costs too much maybe staying apsc is a better choice for you.

You are actually lucky that you COULD use your 10-18 on either body and still cover a lot of the frame. Better than an APSC crop. BUT it isn't ideal. Vignetting and corrections are a problem.

Now for UWA zoom options you could look at the Tamron 17-28 ($900) or a used copy of the 16-35 4.

Skip the laowa 10-18. Having to enter the corrections manually would be annoying and the reviews aren't stellar

Or am I looking at it wrong?

I think you are looking at it right..I don't know where you want to be in the future BUT I would guess adding a $1000 zoom down the road would come faster than adding/swapping for a $1500-2000 body. Although in theory the prices on the bodies will fall faster than the lenses........

We could both be wrong. Maybe the a7ii would be "good enough". The low light AF frustrated me the most. Outside that maybe you could tolerate other things......

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OP zalmanium Forum Member • Posts: 73
Re: A7 + Sony 16-35 f4 (Tamron 17-28 f2.8) OR A7RII + 28mm f2 (Samyang 24 2.8). And why?

golfhov wrote:

zalmanium wrote:

So right now both opinions go to the A7RII + 28mm f2.

It's just a LOT of people greatly prefer the r2. That said.

What exact improvements do you expect?

How do you feel about the current AF and IQ of your a6000?

I honestly don't know. I feel the a6000 is really good but I am sometimes missing this premium feel, the feeling it could be better with a better camera. Maybe it's also the urge to try something new. I am missing this little something in my pictures lately, maybe I just blame the camera for it.

Problem is that the wide angle option on full frame costs an arm and a leg (compared to a6000 10-18) :/

Don't know the retail of that one now. $800. It just is what it is. If the lenses you want costs too much maybe staying apsc is a better choice for you.

You are actually lucky that you COULD use your 10-18 on either body and still cover a lot of the frame. Better than an APSC crop. BUT it isn't ideal. Vignetting and corrections are a problem.

Now for UWA zoom options you could look at the Tamron 17-28 ($900) or a used copy of the 16-35 4.

Skip the laowa 10-18. Having to enter the corrections manually would be annoying and the reviews aren't stellar

Or am I looking at it wrong?

I think you are looking at it right..I don't know where you want to be in the future BUT I would guess adding a $1000 zoom down the road would come faster than adding/swapping for a $1500-2000 body. Although in theory the prices on the bodies will fall faster than the lenses........

We could both be wrong. Maybe the a7ii would be "good enough". The low light AF frustrated me the most. Outside that maybe you could tolerate other things......

Buying the A7RII without the 16-35 seems pointless in regards with the a600 10-18 combo I have right now. The ideal combo is indeed A7RII/16-35 but at 2000$ I don't know if it will blow my a6000/10-18 out of the water (especially for more then double the price).

golfhov Forum Pro • Posts: 10,623
G.A.S.

FWIW. If you cannot put your finger on your upgrade then it probably isn't a logical decision. Then again not all decisions need to be logical. What you are saying about "premium feel". The a6000 has always been a basic model in a basic body with much higher performance. The a7 models all offer more direct control and a more premium build quality. Is that worth the layout you want......

Now when you said you are happy with the performance of the a6000 outside a vague "improvement " factor. You may be completely fine with the a7ii AF. If you have cooperative models the simpler AF may work, and the sensor MAY be Overkill for you. The a7ii may be a good fit

Only you know for sure. If you don't know then please hold onto your money until you do know .one of the lenses you want (the Tamron) is likely to be hard to get for a while if Tamron releases a hit

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OP zalmanium Forum Member • Posts: 73
Re: G.A.S.

Maybe it is GAS indeed and I should just stay with the A6000
In the end the camera that goes with me the most, is still the best one.

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