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Lens for X-T3

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emils92 New Member • Posts: 1
Lens for X-T3

Hello. I have landed on X-T3 as my first mirrorless camera (or any camera besides my phone for that matter). I am torn between the 16-55 weather sealed lens and the 18-55 lens with OIS. Money is not really the issue here, but I am not sure whether ois or weather sealing is most important to me.

I will not be shooting lots of video, its more of a "nice to have" thing to me, I am in it for the stills. I will be bringing my camera hiking and camping, as well as shooting when I am on vacation in various cities.

The X-T3 does not have IBIS, so OIS in the lens seems nice...OIS can be nice in low light, with a slow shutter speed, but the 16 55 has a fixed 2.8, the other lens is variable 2.8-4. I have very little experience with cameras, all I have done is read online to try and understand the workings of a camera, and what you need for various scenarios. Are there any more experienced shooters out there that can chime in? How well does WR work, is OIS actually useful in stills, etc. etc., any good input is appreciated.

Cheers

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Fujifilm 16-55mm F2.8R LM WR Fujifilm XF 18-55mm F2.8-4 R LM OIS Fujifilm X-T3
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RvEL Regular Member • Posts: 314
Re: Lens for X-T3
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emils92 wrote:

Hello. I have landed on X-T3 as my first mirrorless camera (or any camera besides my phone for that matter). I am torn between the 16-55 weather sealed lens and the 18-55 lens with OIS. Money is not really the issue here, but I am not sure whether ois or weather sealing is most important to me.

I will not be shooting lots of video, its more of a "nice to have" thing to me, I am in it for the stills. I will be bringing my camera hiking and camping, as well as shooting when I am on vacation in various cities.

The X-T3 does not have IBIS, so OIS in the lens seems nice...OIS can be nice in low light, with a slow shutter speed, but the 16 55 has a fixed 2.8, the other lens is variable 2.8-4. I have very little experience with cameras, all I have done is read online to try and understand the workings of a camera, and what you need for various scenarios. Are there any more experienced shooters out there that can chime in? How well does WR work, is OIS actually useful in stills, etc. etc., any good input is appreciated.

Cheers

If you like don't mind having 2 lenses, I would very much recommend the XF23mm f2 WR and the XF50mm f2 WR. They are amazing (fast, great optical quality etc. )

clabuen Forum Member • Posts: 59
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Having used both it’s tough. I use the 16-55mm when I want the slightly better bokeh and weather sealing, and I use the 18-55mm when i don’t want the weight. The 16-55mm is sharper but not by much, I know the money isn’t a factor but the 16-55mm isn’t worth the price in sharpness compared to the 18-55mm. Then again i am not a professional so I don’t pixel peep

Tom Schum
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Congratulations on your X-T3 purchase!

I had the 18-55 2.8-4 zoom with my X-E1 and it worked great for general purpose shooting. I think it is a good starter lens but it isn't weather resistant. I understand it is plenty sharp enough for the X-T3.

I don't have that lens anymore, and have gone on to third party non-electronic non-weather-resistant manual primes mostly. However, I do have the Fuji 50mm F2 WR lens, bought at the same time I bought my X-T3. It's excellent. DPR says the 16mm F2.8 WR is even better, but any of these small Fuji weather resistant primes are great.

If you are new to cameras generally, lack of OIS can be an issue for you. To get maximum image quality from the X-T3 or any recent Fuji except the X-H1, you really need to hold the camera completely still while the shutter operates. Even a slight amount of camera movement will show up in the images, and when there is very little movement it will look like the image is a little bit out of focus.

So, my advice is to start with the 18-55 with OIS. At least you will have the choice to turn off OIS. Once you get the hang of shooting with OIS on, you will appreciate the greatness of the X-T3. By the way, it's always a good idea to check lens firmware and update it to the latest version, and this usually goes for the body, too.

Next step is to go out on the internet and get a few 24"x36" prints just for fun. This is the best part, at least for me. I can recommend Nations Photo for good quality at a reasonable price.

If you then turn off OIS and you can still easily get clear and sharp images at 55mm (maximum zoom), think about going further, to a Fuji prime like the 50mm F2 WR, or even a manual third party prime such as the Rokinon 85mm F1.8 (a challenge), or the Rokinon 21mm F1.4 (easy and versatile, and no need for OIS).

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JayPhizzt Senior Member • Posts: 2,374
Re: Lens for X-T3

emils92 wrote:

Hello. I have landed on X-T3 as my first mirrorless camera (or any camera besides my phone for that matter). I am torn between the 16-55 weather sealed lens and the 18-55 lens with OIS. Money is not really the issue here, but I am not sure whether ois or weather sealing is most important to me.

I will not be shooting lots of video, its more of a "nice to have" thing to me, I am in it for the stills. I will be bringing my camera hiking and camping, as well as shooting when I am on vacation in various cities.

The X-T3 does not have IBIS, so OIS in the lens seems nice...OIS can be nice in low light, with a slow shutter speed, but the 16 55 has a fixed 2.8, the other lens is variable 2.8-4. I have very little experience with cameras, all I have done is read online to try and understand the workings of a camera, and what you need for various scenarios. Are there any more experienced shooters out there that can chime in? How well does WR work, is OIS actually useful in stills, etc. etc., any good input is appreciated.

Cheers

I would recommend you to go with the 18-55 as it's a great lens to learn everything with and because you're not sure what you want/need. It has good image quality, OIS and low weight.

The upsides to the 16-55 is that it has a bit better image quality, goes a bit wider and has weather sealing. The downsides are that it lacks OIS, weighs more and is more expensive.

When you've learned using the camera and lens and might know more about what you want to shoot and achieve you will also start to understand what lenses you might want/need.

When it comes to the aperture you can't only look at exposure since aperture also controls the depth of field so you might not always want to or be able to shoot at a large aperture.

caesarb Contributing Member • Posts: 606
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Hi.

Please kindly explore 18-55 further. It gives you four primes: 18, 23, 35, 55. Image quality is really very good. I got many compliments for photos taken with X-T1 and 18-55 combo. Folks were surprised as to how crisp and sharp they were. I like 18-55 very much and keep it on my X-T1 all the time. I do recommend it.

Some image samples:

https://www.lovegrovephotography.com/fujifilm-xf-18-55mm/

https://jonasraskphotography.com/2013/03/17/first-impressions-of-the-fujinon-18-55mm-f2-8-4r-ois-with-the-x-pro1/

But, please kindly give 16-55 a closer look as well. I own both, 18-55 and 16-55. I got 16-55 on a Fuji sale some time ago. Once I took sample shots with it, I have understood why so many people here had called it a "bag of primes." I really got four prime lenses in one. I have paired it with X-T2, and this is my go to kit now.

Please kindly check out the link below – for comparison between 16-55 and various primes, with full-size JPGs included. Comparing those sample images made me buy the 16-55. My own images taken with 16-55 have further confirmed the superb optical qualities of the lens.

https://www.prophotonut.com/2015/04/30/zoom-or-prime-lenses-for-portraits-with-fuji-x/

There is a robust zoom lens comparison here:

https://www.fujivsfuji.com/16-55mm-f2pt8-vs-18-55mm-f2pt8-4-vs-18-135mm-f3pt5-5pt6/

Also, just wanted to mention this... one can "test" various Fujinon lenses here:

http://fujifilmxmount.com/comparison/en/test-our-lenses/

Thank you and kindest regards.

KariP
KariP Veteran Member • Posts: 6,458
Re: Lens for X-T3 + zoom with OIS

emils92 wrote:

Hello. I have landed on X-T3 as my first mirrorless camera (or any camera besides my phone for that matter). I am torn between the 16-55 weather sealed lens and the 18-55 lens with OIS. Money is not really the issue here, but I am not sure whether ois or weather sealing is most important to me.

I will not be shooting lots of video, its more of a "nice to have" thing to me, I am in it for the stills. I will be bringing my camera hiking and camping, as well as shooting when I am on vacation in various cities.

The X-T3 does not have IBIS, so OIS in the lens seems nice...OIS can be nice in low light, with a slow shutter speed, but the 16 55 has a fixed 2.8, the other lens is variable 2.8-4. I have very little experience with cameras, all I have done is read online to try and understand the workings of a camera, and what you need for various scenarios. Are there any more experienced shooters out there that can chime in? How well does WR work, is OIS actually useful in stills, etc. etc., any good input is appreciated.

Cheers

.... is a very good  system to start photography . Weather resistance sounds like a very important thing, but is it  in real life ? I do not want to stand in heavy rain... the camera will leak first more likely if I trust some weather sealed gear. Raincoats are invented 

I have used my 18-55 OIS since X-E1. It has been great for traveling in all kinds of weather .  OIS is very useful in low light  and after using a zoom for some time you will see IF you really need some prime for something. Like 55f1,2. for portraits and art photography.

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David Tanner New Member • Posts: 21
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I’d go with the 18-55 smaller and lighter. As this is your first mirrorless camera study some videos on YouTube on general use of the X-T3 and I can also highly recommend Dan Baileys ebook “X Series Unlimited” an invaluable resource on using your X camera.

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Re: Lens for X-T3

emils92 wrote:

Hello. I have landed on X-T3 as my first mirrorless camera (or any camera besides my phone for that matter). I am torn between the 16-55 weather sealed lens and the 18-55 lens with OIS. Money is not really the issue here, but I am not sure whether ois or weather sealing is most important to me.

I will not be shooting lots of video, its more of a "nice to have" thing to me, I am in it for the stills. I will be bringing my camera hiking and camping, as well as shooting when I am on vacation in various cities.

The X-T3 does not have IBIS, so OIS in the lens seems nice...OIS can be nice in low light, with a slow shutter speed, but the 16 55 has a fixed 2.8, the other lens is variable 2.8-4. I have very little experience with cameras, all I have done is read online to try and understand the workings of a camera, and what you need for various scenarios. Are there any more experienced shooters out there that can chime in? How well does WR work, is OIS actually useful in stills, etc. etc., any good input is appreciated.

Cheers

Based upon your expected usage of the camera, I would agree with the masses here and recommend the 18-55.  I have both the 18-55 and the 16-55 and always grab the 18-55 when I'm going hiking or any other similar outdoor activity.

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decaf14 Regular Member • Posts: 234
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A note about weather resistance: the manufacturer will not reimburse any water damage. That means that you should always be using a camera wrap like this even with your weatherproof lenses. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/469774-REG/OP_TECH_USA_9001132_18_Rainsleeve_Set_of.html?ap=y&smp=y&lsft=BI%3A514&gclid=Cj0KCQjwyLDpBRCxARIsAEENsrLT73Gwr2J-D_n1ln_gh9pCL8tzUwpeXnf1J7xdYXOy6Zg4p4e-bHoaApLSEALw_wcB

I frequently shoot with the XT-3 and 18-135 in crappy weather, and always use this wrap. There are so many videos of XT-_'s breaking in rain, even with weatherproof lenses. The weatherproof is added insure for when water inevitably makes its way inside the wrap.

My input is to get the 18-55 based on what I've read from others on the forums and also based on sharpness/vignetting tests done by professionals on both lenses. That being said, I have never owned either.

Congrats on your new purchase!

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Advent1sam Veteran Member • Posts: 9,089
Re: Lens for X-T3

emils92 wrote:

Hello. I have landed on X-T3 as my first mirrorless camera (or any camera besides my phone for that matter). I am torn between the 16-55 weather sealed lens and the 18-55 lens with OIS. Money is not really the issue here, but I am not sure whether ois or weather sealing is most important to me.

I will not be shooting lots of video, its more of a "nice to have" thing to me, I am in it for the stills. I will be bringing my camera hiking and camping, as well as shooting when I am on vacation in various cities.

The X-T3 does not have IBIS, so OIS in the lens seems nice...OIS can be nice in low light, with a slow shutter speed, but the 16 55 has a fixed 2.8, the other lens is variable 2.8-4. I have very little experience with cameras, all I have done is read online to try and understand the workings of a camera, and what you need for various scenarios. Are there any more experienced shooters out there that can chime in? How well does WR work, is OIS actually useful in stills, etc. etc., any good input is appreciated.

Cheers

Did you consider x-h1 and 16-55 2.8 😊

drewmey123 Regular Member • Posts: 248
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caesarb wrote:

Hi.

Please kindly explore 18-55 further. It gives you four primes: 18, 23, 35, 55.

I get the point of what you are saying, but if you are going to call it (4) prime lenses, you have to ask yourself whether you would buy a 55mm f4 prime lens (the size of the 18-55) on an APS-C sensor. Most people would say....no thanks.

I think the OP should get the 18-55, but use the additional funds that would go towards the 16-55 to get something like the the 35mm f1.4. That way they can have a little bit of both worlds.

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Steve Bingham
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Let's see, the 18-55 is cheaper and has OIS. The 16- 55 is heavier and sharper and no image stabilization. I chose the 18-55 just because . . . . . . along with the 14 for wide angle and sharpness . . . along with the 50 for incredible center sharpness! Quite a decision with no wrong answers. So, what is REALLY important to you?

I have the X-T2.

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caesarb Contributing Member • Posts: 606
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Hi. Yes, agreed; I do see your point. I think the major aspect of using those zooms (18-55/16-55) is that they provide multiple focal lengths and can be considered a "bag of primes" in that very basic sense. As to how good and popular a 55mm f/4 prime on an APS-C sensor might be is a different matter, albeit an important one. To me -- stretching it a bit -- the 18-55 could be considered sort of a poor man's 56mm f/1.2, which is a very popular portrait lens. In general, I think there is still a well-deserved place for it in someone's lens kit. The 16-55 takes the "bag of primes" designation to a different level with the image quality it delivers; it is a much better "bag of primes." I agree that 18-55 is a great choice as a universal, all-around standard zoom and as a gateway to further exploration that might lead a photographer to also acquire one or more specialized primes. However, with the 16-55, a photographer might decide that no primes are needed. Both lenses are great choices. I like 18-55, and I love 16-55. Thank you and kindest regards.

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