How much of an upgrade is the D7500 from D3400 ?

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David Lumsden
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If he swallows that thing, it’s going to have serious GAS.

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Re: Gear details for seagulls

David Lumsden wrote:

If he swallows that thing, it’s going to have serious GAS.

Lawrose
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Re: How much of an upgrade is the D7500 from D3400 ?

I upgraded to the D7500 from the D5600. No regrets. You will definitely get better high ISO performance with the D7500, so you can use a slightly faster shutter, etc. I shoot RAW, but on the D5600, in very low light, I sometimes slip back to JPEG because at ISO 25,600, JPEGS actually show less grain, and try as I might, at that ISO I can never edit my RAW files to look as good as Nikon's JPEGs. Could be that Nikon knows more about editing at high ISO than I do. Ya' think?

On the D7500, it's RAW all the time, with never a thought to any other quality setting.

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ANAYV Forum Pro • Posts: 17,251
Re: How much of an upgrade is the D7500 from D3400 ?

Lawrose wrote:

...On the D7500, it's RAW all the time, with never a thought to any other quality setting.

So is the noise pattern easier to remove with the D7500 RAW files...or is the noise less on the D7500?

Thanks.

(I have the D3400 and looking to buy the D7500).

ANAYV

Bobthearch
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Re: How much of an upgrade is the D7500 from D3400 ?

AyanA wrote:

Hello everyone,

I'm a long time reader of dpreview but this is my 1st post. I started my photography in jan 2018 with a D3400 and 18-140 kit, the thought was to learn and then upgrade. I love bird phitography, so along the way I bought Nikon 70-300Af-p dx ed vr(new) and the Tamron 150-600mm G1(used)

Now after learning a fair amount of photography, I feel my equipments are holding me back. The iso (good upto only 800), buffer, frame rate (5fps), slow focusing, shaprness is really troubling me. Hence the plan of D7500.

My concerns are,

Will the D7500 help me get better picture in those aspects (Iso performence,

Yes.

Sharpness

I wouldn't expect much, if any.  The D3400 is capable of very sharp and detailed images.

& Af speed-accuracy) ?

Yes, especially in low light or tracking moving objects.

You'll probably appreciate having far more AF points too.

The AF speed of my current go to combo (3400+tammy G1) is very slow, will the D7500 improve this ?

It should but that depends partly on the lens, which I am not familiar with.

The biggest difference will be in usability, and anything in the D7xxx series will be a huge step up from the D3xxx series.  Better viewfinder, more AF points, manual controls and dual wheels, physical buttons, more ports and connectors for accessories...

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Razor512
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Re: How much of an upgrade is the D7500 from D3400 ?

ANAYV wrote:

Lawrose wrote:

...On the D7500, it's RAW all the time, with never a thought to any other quality setting.

So is the noise pattern easier to remove with the D7500 RAW files...or is the noise less on the D7500?

Thanks.

(I have the D3400 and looking to buy the D7500).

ANAYV

The noise is a little less, and the noise pattern is easier to remove. This impacts across the ISO range, for example, if you do a ton of shadow recovery and want to do some denoising, you may end up with speckles or other artifacts that cannot be automatically removed.

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Lawrose
Lawrose Regular Member • Posts: 119
Re: How much of an upgrade is the D7500 from D3400 ?

ANAYV wrote:

Lawrose wrote:

...On the D7500, it's RAW all the time, with never a thought to any other quality setting.

So is the noise pattern easier to remove with the D7500 RAW files...or is the noise less on the D7500?

Thanks.

(I have the D3400 and looking to buy the D7500).

ANAYV

Not as noisy.

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ANAYV Forum Pro • Posts: 17,251
Re: How much of an upgrade is the D7500 from D3400 ?

Razor512 wrote:

ANAYV wrote:

Lawrose wrote:

...On the D7500, it's RAW all the time, with never a thought to any other quality setting.

So is the noise pattern easier to remove with the D7500 RAW files...or is the noise less on the D7500?

Thanks.

(I have the D3400 and looking to buy the D7500).

ANAYV

The noise is a little less, and the noise pattern is easier to remove. This impacts across the ISO range, for example, if you do a ton of shadow recovery and want to do some denoising, you may end up with speckles or other artifacts that cannot be automatically removed.

Thanks!

ANAYV

ANAYV Forum Pro • Posts: 17,251
Re: How much of an upgrade is the D7500 from D3400 ?

Lawrose wrote:

ANAYV wrote:

Lawrose wrote:

...On the D7500, it's RAW all the time, with never a thought to any other quality setting.

So is the noise pattern easier to remove with the D7500 RAW files...or is the noise less on the D7500?

Thanks.

(I have the D3400 and looking to buy the D7500).

ANAYV

Not as noisy.

Thanks!

ANAYV

OP AyanA New Member • Posts: 11
Re: How much of an upgrade is the D7500 from D3400 ?

ANAYV wrote:

Lawrose wrote:

ANAYV wrote:

Lawrose wrote:

...On the D7500, it's RAW all the time, with never a thought to any other quality setting.

So is the noise pattern easier to remove with the D7500 RAW files...or is the noise less on the D7500?

Thanks.

(I have the D3400 and looking to buy the D7500).

ANAYV

Not as noisy.

Thanks!

ANAYV

So, one of my major concern is solved, "The noise"

Thanks gyes...

CMCM Senior Member • Posts: 4,414
Re: How much of an upgrade is the D7500 from D3400 ?

AyanA wrote:

ANAYV wrote:

Lawrose wrote:

ANAYV wrote:

Lawrose wrote:

...On the D7500, it's RAW all the time, with never a thought to any other quality setting.

So is the noise pattern easier to remove with the D7500 RAW files...or is the noise less on the D7500?

Thanks.

(I have the D3400 and looking to buy the D7500).

ANAYV

Not as noisy.

Thanks!

ANAYV

So, one of my major concern is solved, "The noise"

Thanks gyes...

I think the D7500 handles noise really well.  Here are two photos I shot recently.  A very low light, overcast day at the ocean and it was 5:30 in the evening.  The first one was at ISO 900, the second one at ISO 1400.

ISO 900

ISO 1400

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ANAYV Forum Pro • Posts: 17,251
I got the D7500! ISO 2000 shot
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AyanA wrote:

So, one of my major concern is solved, "The noise"

Thanks gyes...

I got it! (D7500)

(Also have the D3400)

Here's one at ISO 2000...

ANAYV

CMCM Senior Member • Posts: 4,414
Re: I got the D7500! ISO 2000 shot

Congrats on your new camera!  You're going to have a lot of fun with it, it's a great camera.

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ANAYV Forum Pro • Posts: 17,251
Re: I got the D7500! ISO 2000 shot

CMCM wrote:

Congrats on your new camera! You're going to have a lot of fun with it, it's a great camera.

Thanks!!

ANAYV

Tootsall
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Re: How much of an upgrade is the D7500 from D3400 ?

I know it's not the same as D7500 but I upgraded from D5300 to D7200 a few months ago and at the same time changed from Sigma 150-600C to Nikon 200-500.  These were taken with the Pelicans hand-held and the Pronghorn were shot using a monopod; the Pronghorn were about 1 km away from me and started moving off as soon as they saw me stop the car and get the camera out...maybe they thought I was going to "shoot" them...Pronghorn are notoriously skittish at the best of times.  I really like this combo; the AF fine tuning is a real advantage.

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Robert1950 Regular Member • Posts: 119
Re: How much of an upgrade is the D7500 from D3400 ?

It is quite an upgrade. I went from a D5300 to a D7500. Tracking and focusing performance is definitely superior, exposure more accurate and just faster. I shot a few hundred action shots with a 70-300mm f4.5-5.6 AF-S VR FX lens and missed focus on 5 of them. All were properly exposed

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OP AyanA New Member • Posts: 11
Re: I got the D7500! ISO 2000 shot

ANAYV wrote:

AyanA wrote:

So, one of my major concern is solved, "The noise"

Thanks gyes...

I got it! (D7500)

(Also have the D3400)

Here's one at ISO 2000...

ANAYV

Congrats dear....

Keep us posted with the advantages/disadvantages among the two

Bender79ita
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Re: How much of an upgrade is the D7500 from D3400 ?

My concerns are,

  1. Will the D7500 help me get better picture in those aspects (Iso performence, Sharpness & Af speed-accuracy) ?

Yes, iso is slightly better, for AF is the best non-pro system.

  1. The AF speed of my current go to combo (3400+tammy G1) is very slow, will the D7500 improve this ?

Depends on the focus motor mostly. If the motor is slow, it won't.

  1. I have plans for Nikon 200-500 f5.6 next year. Will it be a better partner to the body then the current Tammy G1 ?(Sharpness, Af speed & accuracy)

No clue, sorry.

Long story short, if you are after features, AF, buffer and framerate, a really usable 3d tracking and a Group AF mode that almost works in pitch black darkness, the d7500 is a good choice.

It also does have a few compression options for the NEF files, add that to the crop mode can help you handle better the amount of data that you have to store and go trough at home on the computer.

Image quality difference for the sensor itself, will not vary much, that's why the D3xxx series are so good.

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chrisD46 Regular Member • Posts: 232
Re: How much of an upgrade is the D7500 from D3400 ?
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It also depends on what kind of a photographer you are : As a street , travel and fine art photographer - I prefer the small size of the D3300 and already have my controls set up for the shooting at hand . Yes , I give up those things already mentioned but am able to work around it fairly well .

OP AyanA New Member • Posts: 11
Re: How much of an upgrade is the D7500 from D3400 ?
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Bender79ita wrote:

My concerns are,

  1. Will the D7500 help me get better picture in those aspects (Iso performence, Sharpness & Af speed-accuracy) ?

Yes, iso is slightly better, for AF is the best non-pro system.

  1. The AF speed of my current go to combo (3400+tammy G1) is very slow, will the D7500 improve this ?

Depends on the focus motor mostly. If the motor is slow, it won't.

  1. I have plans for Nikon 200-500 f5.6 next year. Will it be a better partner to the body then the current Tammy G1 ?(Sharpness, Af speed & accuracy)

No clue, sorry.

Long story short, if you are after features, AF, buffer and framerate, a really usable 3d tracking and a Group AF mode that almost works in pitch black darkness, the d7500 is a good choice.

For bird photography these are key aspects. Anyone (as per the spec sheet)  would love the upgrade. Thanks for your real world experience shating.

It also does have a few compression options for the NEF files, add that to the crop mode can help you handle better the amount of data that you have to store and go trough at home on the computer.

These are the small things that only actual users point out and are not available on most of "review"

Thanks

Image quality difference for the sensor itself, will not vary much, that's why the D3xxx series are so good.

I guess tye story is, D3xxx is very good in this aspect, and the D7xxx is not that much of an upgrade considering price jump. (Very precisely in image quality section consideeing all other parameters "perfect")

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