Is everybody switching to Sony?

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BackPacker1532 Regular Member • Posts: 194
Re: Is everybody switching to Sony?
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No!

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StevieF Contributing Member • Posts: 651
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Without doubt - the heavier the camera the better. That’s why Nikon 1 system failed, not heavy enough & the lenses couldn’t take the battering.

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R Vaquero wrote:

I’m watching these days how a lot of photographers - most of them amateurs, but quite a few pros as well- are switching so Sony as if their lives depend on it.

No doubt Sony is releasing good products especially in mirrorless market- and our Nikons have sensors made by them- but I can’t help thinking of about 15 years ago when everybody said Canon was the thing to go... What are your thoughts about?

Not switching.

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Stan Disbrow wrote:

Hi,

110 and 126.

That is what the phone cams replaced.

124 and 135

This is what DSLRs and D-MILCs replaced.

Stan

Something of a stretch. Neither my kids (now in their 30's) or any of their friends ever picked up a 110 or 126 type film camera. I don't think phone cameras replaced anything. Young people who had never taken photographs suddenly and spontaneously started - just because it was made easy and convenient for them.

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most just trying out Sonys (blackout-view) FF "mirrorless" ILCs before settling for FF alternatives
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R Vaquero wrote:

I’m watching these days how a lot of photographers - most of them amateurs, but quite a few pros as well- are switching so Sony as if their lives depend on it.

no. not really.

No doubt Sony is releasing good products especially in mirrorless market- and our Nikons have sensors made by them- but I can’t help thinking of about 15 years ago when everybody said Canon was the thing to go... What are your thoughts about?

most just trying out Sonys (blackout-view) Half-View FF "mirrorless" ILCs before settling for other FF alternatives:

  • Nikon (blackout-view) Half-View FF (mirrorless or dSLR) ILCs before settling for other FF alternatives ...
  • Canon (Full-Live-View) blackout-free FF ILCs (mirrorless or dSLRs), or older generation "blackout-view" ILCs or dcams

those who no longer want blackout-view (Half-View) FF ILCs (MILCs or dSLRs or fixed lens digicams), go for Full-Live-View FF ILCs = (Canon EOS R, RP, 1DXMKII)

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Stan Disbrow Veteran Member • Posts: 3,489
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Hi,

Yes, I think you are correct when it comes to the younger folks. Because phone cameras exist in, if not all, almost all phones. Just another feature for most phones. The main feature for some.

Back in 1980, when I began with IBM, I used 110 film to document things electronic I was working on in R+D. Then, the Still Video Camera (electronic imaging in analog) replaced film. Then, by 1994, digital replaced analog.

By then, I was with Ericsson making the entire phone revolution happen. I was then using a small Nikon Coolpix. When we got to the T68 phone, the guys over in accessories decided to make me a VGA digital camera that attached to the bottom of a GSM-4 chipset phone. The T68 was great for that as it had a color screen and also Bluetooth to attach to a notebook PC with to move the shots.

That worked so well, we decided to make it a product called the Communicam. It sold like the proverbial hotcakes. After that, we stuck cameras in all our new designs. Once we did this, everyone did. That began the 'keep stuffing the phones' with item after item until we had the Smartphone. This, all well before Apple jumped in.

Some of our models were Camera First. There was even a Pro shooter that wandered about the US shooting with one Camera First model and published a coffee table book with lots of shots. Interesting how it all took off like that.

But, the entire idea began with a way to do the 110 or 126 camera thing. The idea of always having a camera with you. No matter how poorly it might work, the cam you have is better than the excellent one you left behind. The mantra of Instamatic.

That so many phone camera users are unaware of Instamatic has no bearing on where the basic ideas came from. All these current offerings are still replacing film cameras in one way or another. Even the formats and aspect ratios remain those of film for the most part. Hence my use of those old type numbers.

Oh, and the camera modules we used? Sony. There was a close connection between Sony and Ericsson years before they made up an official joint venture. So, that sort-of fits in with this discussion.

Stan

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Hell no.  Small bodies with heavy lenses.  Horrible menu system.  At least the Nikon Z's small bodies have smaller lenses than Sony.  Weather sealing is better on Nikon, and I've never had an issue with any Nikon I owned, and why would we switch systems, and go through selling all of our gear at a loss, and buying all new stuff?  It's the photographer's skill level, not the gear that makes us.

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Re: Is everybody switching to Sony?
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R Vaquero wrote:

I’m watching these days how a lot of photographers - most of them amateurs, but quite a few pros as well- are switching so Sony as if their lives depend on it.

No doubt Sony is releasing good products especially in mirrorless market- and our Nikons have sensors made by them- but I can’t help thinking of about 15 years ago when everybody said Canon was the thing to go... What are your thoughts about?

No.

I have a Sony RX1R ii and am thinking of selling that and buying Nikon’s 35/1.8 S for my Z6. It’s about on par for low light but better AF, menus, battery, and a smart raw file format(NEFs). Sony’s raw format is idiotic - lossy compression which actually creates artifacts and visible image degradation or uncompressed raws.

SnapBridge also works far better giving geotagging.

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Re: Is everybody switching to Sony?
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Jvlahakis wrote:

Hell no. Small bodies with heavy lenses. Horrible menu system. At least the Nikon Z's small bodies have smaller lenses than Sony. Weather sealing is better on Nikon, and I've never had an issue with any Nikon I owned, and why would we switch systems, and go through selling all of our gear at a loss, and buying all new stuff? It's the photographer's skill level, not the gear that makes us.

That’s just what I think as well.

ActionPhotoPassion Senior Member • Posts: 1,178
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DeathArrow wrote:

ActionPhotoPassion wrote:

Long lenses shooters will have the edge for a while.... I probably should go paparazzi I heard big money from one single possible shot yesterday hehe

I've heard photojournalists make the least amount of money amongs photographers.

Yes, go paparazzi but make sure to catch the queen of England cheating with Donald Trump. Or at least fake it in PS:

It's a very good business in Spain: they have 2 tv channels running from 11:00am until 02:00am only gossiping (brain washing I should say) on Spanish people. So I guess it's an easy money business there. No such thing in France, don't know for other countries.

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No I like to have good ergonomics and a Well built camera so Sony is out of the question for me

I do have some Sony gear

But as for Sony cameras , I don’t like the user experiance.

And for the tech , remember, DAT and Memorystick ?

I have them too

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Yxa Senior Member • Posts: 2,455
Sony

PhozoKozmos wrote:

R Vaquero wrote:

I’m watching these days how a lot of photographers - most of them amateurs, but quite a few pros as well- are switching so Sony as if their lives depend on it.

no. not really.

No doubt Sony is releasing good products especially in mirrorless market- and our Nikons have sensors made by them- but I can’t help thinking of about 15 years ago when everybody said Canon was the thing to go... What are your thoughts about?

most just trying out Sonys (blackout-view) Half-View FF "mirrorless" ILCs before settling for other FF alternatives:

  • Nikon (blackout-view) Half-View FF (mirrorless or dSLR) ILCs before settling for other FF alternatives ...
  • Canon (Full-Live-View) blackout-free FF ILCs (mirrorless or dSLRs), or older generation "blackout-view" ILCs or dcams

those who no longer want blackout-view (Half-View) FF ILCs (MILCs or dSLRs or fixed lens digicams), go for Full-Live-View FF ILCs = (Canon EOS R, RP, 1DXMKII)

Hello Sdaniella

Where have you been hiding?

blink667 Contributing Member • Posts: 692
Re: Is everybody switching to Sony?

R Vaquero wrote:

I’m watching these days how a lot of photographers - most of them amateurs, but quite a few pros as well- are switching so Sony as if their lives depend on it.

No doubt Sony is releasing good products especially in mirrorless market- and our Nikons have sensors made by them- but I can’t help thinking of about 15 years ago when everybody said Canon was the thing to go... What are your thoughts about?

Sony cameras are technically interesting but their color rendition is poo and no where near Nikon (or Fuji) and I don't think build quality matches Nikon.  If I was going FF mirrorless I would wait for the next round of Nikon Z's.

MikeDale Junior Member • Posts: 39
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Absolutely not. I ditched my A7RIII in favor of the Z7. It's the perfect compliment to my D850. Both cameras are superior to the A7RIII in my opinion.

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Schrodingers_cat Senior Member • Posts: 2,237
No
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bjn70 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,242
I switched to Sony about 8 years ago
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Sold my old TV and bought a new Sony.  When our other tv died a year ago we bought a Sony to  replace that one too.

Were we talking about cameras?  I stick with Nikon cameras.  I probably wouldn't buy a Nikon TV just as I wouldn't buy a Sony camera.

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R Vaquero wrote:

I’m watching these days how a lot of photographers - most of them amateurs, but quite a few pros as well- are switching so Sony as if their lives depend on it.

No doubt Sony is releasing good products especially in mirrorless market- and our Nikons have sensors made by them- but I can’t help thinking of about 15 years ago when everybody said Canon was the thing to go... What are your thoughts about?

This is probably the weirdest reason you'll hear as to why I stick with nikon.

The sound of the and mirror slap during shutter release.

I know it's weird. Just like i prefer actual physical book over e-books because i love to smell the pages.

Cheers!

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Batdude
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Is Usually a Canon or Sony
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The photographer usually has a Sony ML.

For video is a Canon.

Everybody else uses their awesome phones.

Oh and now I guess there is the DUAL cell phone user

I am usually the one around with "old" Nikon gear

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R Vaquero wrote:

I’m watching these days how a lot of photographers - most of them amateurs, but quite a few pros as well- are switching so Sony as if their lives depend on it.

No doubt Sony is releasing good products especially in mirrorless market- and our Nikons have sensors made by them- but I can’t help thinking of about 15 years ago when everybody said Canon was the thing to go... What are your thoughts about?

Herd mentality. I love my D850.

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