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British Wildlife Centre + 50-200mm 2.8-4

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C Sean Veteran Member • Posts: 3,423
British Wildlife Centre + 50-200mm 2.8-4
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Several weeks ago I visited the British Wildlife Centre on a photography day. This centre is located South of London but I think there are a few more similar centres dotted around the countries like one in Cornwall/Devon. I'd visited this centre before, two years in fact and I was using both the GH4 + 35-100mm and the 10-400. I didn't have enough reach with the 35-100 and the the GH4 didn't have an autofocus joystick which made things harder with the animals running around you.

When I went to the BWC this time round, I brought with me the GH5, 50-200, 100-400 and the GX80 + 15mm 1.7. What I should of done is brought the Macro 45mm 2.8 instead for the harvest mouse but I wanted to recreate some of the wide shots seen in award winning wildlife photo competitions with the 15mm 1.7. In total I took around 5,000 shots and over half got deleted. Here are some of the better images I finally got around to process.

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OP C Sean Veteran Member • Posts: 3,423
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Just to add I used Photo in Colour's nature presets and Lightroom 6.

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The last two...

Skeeterbytes Forum Pro • Posts: 23,182
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What a great place--such variety!

Fox images are particularly fun, it's almost as though the little guy was posing for you.

Cheers,

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Some lovely shots there.  Looks like a good place to visit.

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Nice set  good natural colours the pl 50-200 is plenty good enough that's for sure reminds me I have not visited for a while and the squirrels are out cages

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Nice, except for that hedgehog... rabies??

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OP C Sean Veteran Member • Posts: 3,423
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Skeeterbytes wrote:

What a great place--such variety!

Fox images are particularly fun, it's almost as though the little guy was posing for you.

Cheers,

Rick

It can be very challenging because the animals often get fed in front of you and often they don't stay still. So I found it to be spray and pray, hence why I ended up with 5,000 images at the end of the day. I took less than that during my four days stay in Sabi Sand.

The main reason why I went back there because when I first went the my camera aka the GH4 didn't have the auto focus joystick and the 35-100mm 2.8 didn't have enough reach. With the GH5's joystick and the 50-200, I found it a lot easier to get the shot.

OP C Sean Veteran Member • Posts: 3,423
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pdk42 wrote:

Some lovely shots there. Looks like a good place to visit.

Happy to promote places, but it also can be challenging.

OP C Sean Veteran Member • Posts: 3,423
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paul cool wrote:

Nice set good natural colours the pl 50-200 is plenty good enough that's for sure reminds me I have not visited for a while and the squirrels are out cages

When I went there the squirrels were still in their cages which was coming up to the end of March.

OP C Sean Veteran Member • Posts: 3,423
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Lichtspiel wrote:

Nice, except for that hedgehog... rabies??

The hedgehog was getting high or something after sniffing or licking a wooden post.

D Meredith Regular Member • Posts: 221
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Skeeterbytes wrote:

What a great place--such variety!

Fox images are particularly fun, it's almost as though the little guy was posing for you.

Cheers,

Rick

It's probably trained to pose.

boxerman Senior Member • Posts: 1,946
50-200mm vs. 100-400

As far as I noted, only one of your shots was with the 100-400. Of the 50-200 shots, only one was < 100 mm, hence NEEDED the 50-200.

So, what do you say about the convenience/usability/quality comparing the 50-200 with 100-400?

Obviously, the 50-200 has a bigger aperture, but is that a deal--the deal--here, for you?

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great selection and great IQ.

I recently saw a show (Netflix?) on the ' Scottish Wildcat'. Seems the experts are saying there is no saving them now.

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boxerman wrote:

As far as I noted, only one of your shots was with the 100-400. Of the 50-200 shots, only one was < 100 mm, hence NEEDED the 50-200.

So, what do you say about the convenience/usability/quality comparing the 50-200 with 100-400?

Obviously, the 50-200 has a bigger aperture, but is that a deal--the deal--here, for you?

I try to answer your questions and why I ended up getting the 50-200.

I originally bought both the 35-100mm 2.8 and the 100-400 for safari. So for camera A I have the 100-400 mounted onto it and camera B is 35-100. While both the 100-400 and the 35-100 can be used for other applications other than safari. I'd found there were times when the 35-100 didn't have enough reach and the 100-400 wasn't wide enough. So in the end I had to take both lenses with me when really I need one zoom lens that could sit in the middle of their zoom range. By taking both it meant carrying more weight, less room for other lenses, either both zoom lenses needed to be mounted onto their own camera body or I try to avoid lens swapping.

So I mostly bought the 50-200 for convenience, it has weather sealing and having the extra half of stop of light compared to the 100-400 was the icing on the cake. So by having the 50-200, there are times when I only need to bring one telephoto zoom instead of two and this made me more flexible.

For IQ, since I don't know anything about lens construction I can't give you a specific answer. However, I noticed when it comes to image quality both the 100-300 and the 100-400 are very similar in style. The 100-400 is better for it added contrast, slightly sharper and the bokeh is smoother. However the differences between the IQ of the 100-300 and the 100-400 isn't huge but it's better.

The lens construction of the 50-200 appears to differ from the 100-300 and the 100-400. For one the lens is sharper and pick out detail better than the 100-400. The other noticeable difference is the lens has a 3d pop but the 100-400 images appear to be flat. So both lenses gives a different look. Both photos of the zebras which are below, they were taken roughly in the same week, one in Kruger and the other in Sabi Sand. I personally prefer the look of the 50-200.

50-200

100-400

OP C Sean Veteran Member • Posts: 3,423
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Paul Auclair wrote:

great selection and great IQ.

I recently saw a show (Netflix?) on the ' Scottish Wildcat'. Seems the experts are saying there is no saving them now.

There are more Wildcats in captive then there are in the wild. I don't know if this is a result of habit lost or cross breeding with domestic cats.

boxerman Senior Member • Posts: 1,946
Re: 50-200mm vs. 100-400

Thanks. I sort of get the idea. I had the Oly 75-300 before the 100-400 and often found I appreciated the seemingly minimal increase in view of 75, compared to 100.

Our situation (for safari) is definitively 2-camera. 100-400 glued to my camera, and a mid-zoom (last safari was 14-150) attached to my wife's. She mostly does video, and that's generally closer. She also can handle wider shots that I haven't time or patience to change lens for.

One camera flexibility is also, sometimes, a concern. I rented the 12-100 for gorilla trekking on our last trip, and it worked marvelously in the jungles (except the darn stabilization switch accidentally turned it off). Lens-changing on the go in the tough mountainous jungles is just not feasible.

I don't know if "increased IQ" over the 100-400 is really a factor for me. Will ponder...

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Skeeterbytes Forum Pro • Posts: 23,182
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boxerman wrote:

One camera flexibility is also, sometimes, a concern. I rented the 12-100 for gorilla trekking on our last trip, and it worked marvelously in the jungles (except the darn stabilization switch accidentally turned it off). Lens-changing on the go in the tough mountainous jungles is just not feasible.

Same thing happens with the 300. In busy environments, tape it over.

Two-camera setup is my go-to kit for sports (when in a venue that allows it). I'd do same with a safari so long as there aren't restrictions on total gear weight and size. With time switching cameras as conditions change becomes seamless (generally the 40-150 and 300 Pros).

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Jim Scarff Regular Member • Posts: 342
50-200mm vs. 100-400, but only incrementally and at a cost

There is natural competition between 4 MFT telephoto lenses for wildlife photographers and others.  Of these two are zoom lenses:
Panasonic - Leica 100-400

Panasonic - Leica 50-200

and two are fixed lenses:
Olympus 300 mm f/4 and and optional 1.4 teleconverter

Panasonic - Leica 200 mm f/2.8 + bundled 1.4X teleconverter
There seems consensus that the fixed lenses are somewhat sharper at their focal length, but they are also notably heavier than the zoom lenses.
The competition between the two, approximately similarly priced Panasonic zooms is interesting to me.  Many pundits say the 50-200 is sharper, and it is certainly smaller and lighter. It lacks the 200-400 mm focal length, and in theory can get back 80mm of that with a 1.4X teleconverter, which Panasonic is not selling as a separate item at this time.
At 400mm the 100-400 appears to be quite sharp.  For someone like me who photographs a lot of small wild birds, I am photographing at 400mm a high percentage of the time, it seems I would be having to use teleconverters more than I would like.
For a detailed comparison of how the three Panasonic-Leica lenses  compare check out 
Richard Wong's review of Panasonic 50-200mm lens

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OM mani padme hum Regular Member • Posts: 352
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^ Perhaps the most interesting thing about the review is that the Lumix 1.4x & 2x TCs will apparently work with at least three of their lenses, versus only two for Olympus; that could be really useful.

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