Shutter sound on pro cameras ?

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kickoff3pm
kickoff3pm Regular Member • Posts: 268
Shutter sound on pro cameras ?

This is a just a question I would like answered. I don't use a pro camera just a Fuji FXT10 but I can set the shutter to silent. I'm always wondered why whenever you see reporters taking photo in press conferences that their shutters seem very loud. Don't all digital camera have a silent mode?

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lilBuddha Veteran Member • Posts: 4,205
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kickoff3pm wrote:

This is a just a question I would like answered. I don't use a pro camera just a Fuji FXT10 but I can set the shutter to silent. I'm always wondered why whenever you see reporters taking photo in press conferences that their shutters seem very loud. Don't all digital camera have a silent mode?

Most do. But their are disadvantages to a silent shutter. In many cameras, the mechanical shutter allows for a faster flash sync, which is likely why press photographers would use it. And having the sound in a video of a press conference is unimportant.

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Much like the news.

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Not a ton you can do with mirror slap in a DSLR, which is probably what a good amount of those press photogs use.

What you're hearing is the actual mechanical functioning of the camera. It's not an artificial digital sound that can be turned on and off, though some bodies have "quieter" modes.

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kickoff3pm wrote:

This is a just a question I would like answered. I don't use a pro camera just a Fuji FXT10 but I can set the shutter to silent. I'm always wondered why whenever you see reporters taking photo in press conferences that their shutters seem very loud. Don't all digital camera have a silent mode?

When you set you shutter mode to silent, you are actually telling your camera not to use a physical shutter at all to control when the light hits the sensor. Instead, it just turns the sensor on and off. This has the advantages of being silent and avoiding shutter shock but the disadvantage of making blurry or wavy pictures in some circumstances.

Many of those reporters use cameras that not only use a physical shutter but also have a moving mirror that needs to get out of the way for a picture to be taken. Expensive pro equipment is less likely to be susceptible to shutter shock and the pros don't generally want to risk the downsides of using an electronic "shutter", so they continue to be a noisy bunch at press conferences.

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DSLRs have a 'quiet' mode that separates taking the picture from the return of the mirror to spread the sound over two phases and does the return a bit slower. It makes the sound less startling for those not used to it, but it's not really quiet. But the pros generally won't use it at a press conference because expressions can change over an instant and quiet shutter is too slow.

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kickoff3pm wrote:

This is a just a question I would like answered. I don't use a pro camera just a Fuji FXT10 but I can set the shutter to silent. I'm always wondered why whenever you see reporters taking photo in press conferences that their shutters seem very loud. Don't all digital camera have a silent mode?

The sound you are hearing is indicative of the photographers using DSLR cameras, your Fuji is a mirrorless and can be set to silent. Although some DSLR cameras can be "silent" this might be only available with "live view" so no using the viewfinder.

As an aside, if I were the one giving the press conference I would like all photographers to shoot only in silent mode. But I suspect that some luminaries actually get some gratifying "self-importance" feedback from the sound of those mirrors/shutters.

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DeathArrow Senior Member • Posts: 1,051
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FingerPainter wrote:

kickoff3pm wrote:

This is a just a question I would like answered. I don't use a pro camera just a Fuji FXT10 but I can set the shutter to silent. I'm always wondered why whenever you see reporters taking photo in press conferences that their shutters seem very loud. Don't all digital camera have a silent mode?

When you set you shutter mode to silent, you are actually telling your camera not to use a physical shutter at all to control when the light hits the sensor. Instead, it just turns the sensor on and off. This has the advantages of being silent and avoiding shutter shock but the disadvantage of making blurry or wavy pictures in some circumstances.

Many of those reporters use cameras that not only use a physical shutter but also have a moving mirror that needs to get out of the way for a picture to be taken. Expensive pro equipment is less likely to be susceptible to shutter shock and the pros don't generally want to risk the downsides of using an electronic "shutter", so they continue to be a noisy bunch at press conferences.

There's also a quiet shutter mode. To quote someone from another forum:

"Quiet Shutter mode breaks down the click/clack of the shutter into more of a click.......clack sort of thing by allowing you to choose when the mirror moves (click the shutter-release button once to raise the mirror, release the shutter-release button to drop it back down). Personally I don't think there's really any LESS noise, technically speaking (despite the name), it's just spreading out the noise over a longer period of time. Quiet Shutter mode also disables the Auto-focus Confirmation "beep" (if you don't already have it turned off in the menu) so I guess there's that as well."

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DeathArrow Senior Member • Posts: 1,051
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gary0319 wrote:

As an aside, if I were the one giving the press conference I would like all photographers to shoot only in silent mode. But I suspect that some luminaries actually get some gratifying "self-importance" feedback from the sound of those mirrors/shutters.

Would you also like to buy them cameras with silent shutter mode to use at the conference? Or would you like to forbid the presensce of photographers using DSLRs?

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DeathArrow wrote:

gary0319 wrote:

As an aside, if I were the one giving the press conference I would like all photographers to shoot only in silent mode. But I suspect that some luminaries actually get some gratifying "self-importance" feedback from the sound of those mirrors/shutters.

Would you also like to buy them cameras with silent shutter mode to use at the conference? Or would you like to forbid the presensce of photographers using DSLRs?

Of course that would be impractical...…….at least for now. But I suspect in some venues that may be a requirement in the not to distant future.

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I don't own any of these as I said but to my ears the sound some of them make seems incredibly high for a small encased slap. I'm wondering rather than trying to reduced the impact so these cameras have options of the volume or type of sound generated by the shutter.
Acutely thinking about it that would be a funny thing to hack, replace the slap noise with another sound like a ringtone

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DeathArrow Senior Member • Posts: 1,051
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gary0319 wrote:

DeathArrow wrote:

gary0319 wrote:

As an aside, if I were the one giving the press conference I would like all photographers to shoot only in silent mode. But I suspect that some luminaries actually get some gratifying "self-importance" feedback from the sound of those mirrors/shutters.

Would you also like to buy them cameras with silent shutter mode to use at the conference? Or would you like to forbid the presensce of photographers using DSLRs?

Of course that would be impractical...…….at least for now. But I suspect in some venues that may be a requirement in the not to distant future.

When 90% of photojournalists will have cameras with silent shutters, maybe.

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kickoff3pm wrote:

I don't own any of these as I said but to my ears the sound some of them make seems incredibly high for a small encased slap. I'm wondering rather than trying to reduced the impact so these cameras have options of the volume or type of sound generated by the shutter.
Acutely thinking about it that would be a funny thing to hack, replace the slap noise with another sound like a ringtone

But it's a purely mechanical, not digital, sound. You can't turn a dial to change the volume or flip a switch to make it sound like a rooster crowing or whatever else you want.

Edit: check out this video. It's pretty cool and will show you what is actually going on inside a DSLR in slow motion https://youtu.be/CmjeCchGRQo

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lilBuddha Veteran Member • Posts: 4,205
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gary0319 wrote:

kickoff3pm wrote:

This is a just a question I would like answered. I don't use a pro camera just a Fuji FXT10 but I can set the shutter to silent. I'm always wondered why whenever you see reporters taking photo in press conferences that their shutters seem very loud. Don't all digital camera have a silent mode?

The sound you are hearing is indicative of the photographers using DSLR cameras, your Fuji is a mirrorless and can be set to silent. Although some DSLR cameras can be "silent" this might be only available with "live view" so no using the viewfinder.

As an aside, if I were the one giving the press conference I would like all photographers to shoot only in silent mode. But I suspect that some luminaries actually get some gratifying "self-importance" feedback from the sound of those mirrors/shutters.

DPR is so weird. They likely don’t care because it isn’t important.

Mika Y.
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gary0319 wrote:

kickoff3pm wrote:

This is a just a question I would like answered. I don't use a pro camera just a Fuji FXT10 but I can set the shutter to silent. I'm always wondered why whenever you see reporters taking photo in press conferences that their shutters seem very loud. Don't all digital camera have a silent mode?

The sound you are hearing is indicative of the photographers using DSLR cameras, your Fuji is a mirrorless and can be set to silent. Although some DSLR cameras can be "silent" this might be only available with "live view" so no using the viewfinder.

As an aside, if I were the one giving the press conference I would like all photographers to shoot only in silent mode. But I suspect that some luminaries actually get some gratifying "self-importance" feedback from the sound of those mirrors/shutters.

I haven't ever been in a press conference, but it would be interesting to know if the sound levels heard in broadcast video from such events actually match what's perceived by the bystanders in such circumstances. Often the video recording seems to be done either within the group of photographers or near them, but sound level drops off quickly with distance.

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