24mm GM or 16-35 GM?

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bob13bob Contributing Member • Posts: 646
Re: 24mm GM or 16-35 GM?

imo gm glass is good buy overpriced. wait for tamron to release their ultra wide 2.8 zoom. get a samyang 35 2.8 and sony 50 1.8 for now if you don't want to shoot with your nikon adapted.

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Fotozone Forum Member • Posts: 68
Re: 24mm GM or 16-35 GM?

I have both the Sony 16-35 f2.8 and the Loxia 21 f2.0. I find myself using the 16-35 for general work or when I'm unsure of what I'll find. When I go to do astro I only carry the Loxia. Excellent astro lens!!   T

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PWPhotography Senior Member • Posts: 7,467
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Fotozone wrote:

I have both the Sony 16-35 f2.8 and the Loxia 21 f2.0. I find myself using the 16-35 for general work or when I'm unsure of what I'll find. When I go to do astro I only carry the Loxia. Excellent astro lens!! T

Loxia 21mm wide open at f2.8, not f2.0.  I own both FE 16-35 GM and Loxia 21.  Not sure why Loxia 21 is better in astro as 16mm from FE 16-35 GM is much wider, and equally sharp at F2.8 wide open at 21mm.  In my side by side test, Loxia 21 is not actually sharper but has characters that FE 16-35 GM is not very good at - sunstar and special color rendering.

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d4kk0n
OP d4kk0n New Member • Posts: 13
Re: 24mm GM or 16-35 GM?
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Bought today the 24mm GM. If you want to know my reasons for it:

- many people here spoke wonders of the 2 lenses, so no question that both lenses are phenomenal

- it was 800 euros cheaper than the 16-35

- it's much faster, ergo should be great for night shots including astro

- lighter

- I'm going to wait and see what the Tamron 17-28 has to offer, which if it turns out to be a great lens it will fulfill my need of a wider FL which is the only thing I miss in the 24mm

Thank you all for your help and your wonderful insight on this matter

Cheers

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Adrian Cho Junior Member • Posts: 31
Re: 24mm GM or 16-35 GM?

Really depends what you want to do with it. I shoot mostly wildlife and occasionally some landscapes and astro. At the short end of my kit, I now just carry the 24 GM and the Loxia 21 and I sold my 16-35 GM. I would never expect any serious landscaper to do that and I knew that in doing so I was losing the flexibility that came with the zoom but I was fine with this move. The funny thing is so far I’ve only ever used the 24 GM wide open for travel/street stuff, some astro, and environmental portraits such as the images here. For those kinds of things I absolutely love it. I’m sure I could stop it down for landscapes too, even though it’s not super-wide, but I’m very happy with the Loxia 21 for those purposes.

Ultimately for me the 16-35 GM was too big and heavy to carry around and while it was plenty sharp, I found it too clinical. I prefer what the 24 GM can do wide open and the rendering of the Loxia for landscapes.

Adrian Cho Junior Member • Posts: 31
Re: 24mm GM or 16-35 GM?

PWPhotography wrote:

Fotozone wrote:

I have both the Sony 16-35 f2.8 and the Loxia 21 f2.0. I find myself using the 16-35 for general work or when I'm unsure of what I'll find. When I go to do astro I only carry the Loxia. Excellent astro lens!! T

Loxia 21mm wide open at f2.8, not f2.0. I own both FE 16-35 GM and Loxia 21. Not sure why Loxia 21 is better in astro as 16mm from FE 16-35 GM is much wider, and equally sharp at F2.8 wide open at 21mm. In my side by side test, Loxia 21 is not actually sharper but has characters that FE 16-35 GM is not very good at - sunstar and special color rendering.

I’ve definitely found the Loxia 21 to be sharper than the 16-35 GM for astro

juanmaasecas Contributing Member • Posts: 533
Tamron 17-35 2.8-4

I recently bought the Tamron 17-35 2.8-4 (adapted with mc-11) and it's surprisingly good. 2.8 at 17mm, small, light and very sharp wide open. Stepping down only clears the vignetting, it's a very good lens when you can't or don't want to invest that much in wide angles. The 17-28 will be 2.8 in the whole zoom range but only 28mm and will be double the price...

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d4kk0n
OP d4kk0n New Member • Posts: 13
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Beautiful Japan photos you got there!

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Adrian Cho Junior Member • Posts: 31
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d4kk0n wrote:

Beautiful Japan photos you got there!

Thanks. It’s a beautiful place. I was using the 24 GM for the first time when I was there.

terryreid
terryreid Senior Member • Posts: 2,006
Re: 24mm GM or 16-35 GM?

SilvanBromide wrote:

d4kk0n wrote:

Hey guys

I switched from Nikon to Sony not long ago, got the 55mm 1.8 and the 85mm 1.8.

So my thoughts for completing the focal length are between the new 24mm 1.4 GM and the 16-35mm 2.8 GM. I know they are both light lenses and I can get a really good deal on both of them.

Since I already have the Nikkor 14-24 2.8 (with a manual adapter for the Sony) do you think the 24mm is more suitable? The 24mm for me would also be almost half the price of the 16-35mm and that's also good worth taking into account.

Thanks

I have the 16-35 f2.8 GM and love it to bits. But I am considering adding the 24 f1.4 GM for its compactness and extra stops.

Regardless, I won't give up the 16-35.

If I didn't have either, I would go for the 16-35 first because it is so versatile and such a great performing lens (the 24mm is a bit more "niche" IMO). But your decision must, of course, depend on what your priorities (and shooting styles/preferences) are.

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d4kk0n
OP d4kk0n New Member • Posts: 13
Re: 24mm GM or 16-35 GM?

You're welcome! You were also lucky to catch the aurora!

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JPatrick
JPatrick Regular Member • Posts: 144
Re: 24mm GM or 16-35 GM?

d4kk0n wrote:

Hey guys

I switched from Nikon to Sony not long ago, got the 55mm 1.8 and the 85mm 1.8.

So my thoughts for completing the focal length are between the new 24mm 1.4 GM and the 16-35mm 2.8 GM. I know they are both light lenses and I can get a really good deal on both of them.

Since I already have the Nikkor 14-24 2.8 (with a manual adapter for the Sony) do you think the 24mm is more suitable? The 24mm for me would also be almost half the price of the 16-35mm and that's also good worth taking into account.

Thanks

For me personally, I tried the 24mm but opted to stay with the 16-35 f2.8.  I mainly use the 16-35 for landscape work so I don't need the fast f/1.4 speed of the 24mm.  I was hoping I'd be able to use the 24mm for some astrophoto work, but while it's has much less coma than most other lenses, it still doesn't give round stars in the corners.  But that's a tall order for any camera lens to fill.

I love the 16-35 for landscape and tight conditions, and it pretty much stays on the camera when I'm out and about.

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raminm Contributing Member • Posts: 580
Re: 24mm GM or 16-35 GM?

16-35mm GM is a zoom that is as good as primes. However, it ain't cheap and since you already own a Nikkor 14-24mm, I don't see the point for getting 16-35mm unless it is an upgrade in image quality for you. On the other hand, you really need to decide if you need apertures wider than f2.8 at 24mm.Or, maybe none of these lenses are what you need and maybe it's better to look for another lens. It all depends on your applications.

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