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PORTRAIT
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Fuji Xa1

Hi gang,

I found an XA1 model, apparently in very good condition, for a relatively good price? (CAD $270.00, my budget is very limited at the moment) and I missed the APS-C sensor as well the famous Fuji JEPG SOOC in my photography. I’m familiar with Fuji cams, as I owned some of them since the P&S era;)But I never tried a Fuji Mirrorless. For what I read, it is not a an ultra fast camera, as far as AF is concern, FPS ,etc... Other than that is anything else I need to know about this model?

Any input will be appreciated

Thanks for your time.

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Justin9999 Contributing Member • Posts: 725
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Better sensor, with PDAF, same price:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F254199008591

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Re: X-E2S

Justin9999 wrote:

Better sensor, with PDAF, same price:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F254199008591

Thanks Justin9999,

Unfortunately, that's US$ 200.00 bidding start, it would end it up more fir me, plus no shipping to Canada;)... a part of the PDAF, in which way the sensor is better, because it is an X trans?...

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Re: X-E2S

PORTRAIT wrote:

Justin9999 wrote:

Better sensor, with PDAF, same price:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F254199008591

Thanks Justin9999,

Unfortunately, that's US$ 200.00 bidding start, it would end it up more fir me, plus no shipping to Canada;)...

I would be surprised if the camera sold for more than $20 above the starting bid.

a part of the PDAF, in which way the sensor is better, because it is an X trans?...

PDAF is phase detect autofocus, which is the next technological level above the older & slow contrast detect autofocus.  It doesn’t impact IQ, but improves autofocus.

PDAF has nothing to do with Xtrans.

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ReCaptcha Regular Member • Posts: 331
Re: Fuji Xa1

PORTRAIT wrote:

I found an XA1 model, apparently in very good condition, for a relatively good price? (CAD $270.00, my budget is very limited at the moment) and I missed the APS-C sensor as well the famous Fuji JEPG SOOC in my photography.

Is that with the 16-50mm?  If it's body only I wouldn't go much higher than $150 CAD.  I picked up both my X-M1 and X-A1 each for under $100 US (about $133 CAD currently).

I’m familiar with Fuji cams, as I owned some of them since the P&S era;)But I never tried a Fuji Mirrorless. For what I read, it is not a an ultra fast camera, as far as AF is concern, FPS ,etc... Other than that is anything else I need to know about this model?

The X-A1 and X-M1 came with the old first version of the XC 16-50mm.  The second version of that lens improves things slightly.  Due to the age of these cameras you will lose full feature compatibility with a couple of the newer lenses (XC 15-45mm for example). They'll still work, just not all features.  Moving up the model chart gets you some extras:

  • X-A2: full flip screen (for selfies); bundled with 16-50mm II (v2)
  • X-E2 / X-E2s: EVF + Phase Detect AF points
  • X-A10: full flip screen + compatibility with new lenses
  • X-A3: 24mp sensor, full flip touchscreen + compatibility with new lenses

Beyond these, you are likely pushing that $270 CAD ($200 US) budget.

Any input will be appreciated. Thanks for your time.

The 16mp bodies are fun play things and the colors are nice.  The X-M1/X-A1/X-A2 have slightly better build quality than the newer X-A10/X-A20 and X-A3/X-A5.  There are some lens-free X-A5s for around $270 CAD on eBay right now.  That is another model worth considering for slightly faster operation and some limited Phase-Detect AF points.  If this is just to experiment in Fuji, I don't think you can go wrong with any of these... just don't expect anything blazing fast.

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Re: X-E2S

Thanks Justin9999,

And Yes , I do know what's the difference between PDAF and contrast AF, I was wondering if you You meant difference in the sensor IQ...

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Re: Fuji Xa1

ReCaptcha wrote:

PORTRAIT wrote:

I found an XA1 model, apparently in very good condition, for a relatively good price? (CAD $270.00, my budget is very limited at the moment) and I missed the APS-C sensor as well the famous Fuji JEPG SOOC in my photography.

Is that with the 16-50mm? If it's body only I wouldn't go much higher than $150 CAD. I picked up both my X-M1 and X-A1 each for under $100 US (about $133 CAD currently).

I’m familiar with Fuji cams, as I owned some of them since the P&S era;)But I never tried a Fuji Mirrorless. For what I read, it is not a an ultra fast camera, as far as AF is concern, FPS ,etc... Other than that is anything else I need to know about this model?

The X-A1 and X-M1 came with the old first version of the XC 16-50mm. The second version of that lens improves things slightly. Due to the age of these cameras you will lose full feature compatibility with a couple of the newer lenses (XC 15-45mm for example). They'll still work, just not all features. Moving up the model chart gets you some extras:

  • X-A2: full flip screen (for selfies); bundled with 16-50mm II (v2)
  • X-E2 / X-E2s: EVF + Phase Detect AF points
  • X-A10: full flip screen + compatibility with new lenses
  • X-A3: 24mp sensor, full flip touchscreen + compatibility with new lenses

Beyond these, you are likely pushing that $270 CAD ($200 US) budget.

Any input will be appreciated. Thanks for your time.

The 16mp bodies are fun play things and the colors are nice. The X-M1/X-A1/X-A2 have slightly better build quality than the newer X-A10/X-A20 and X-A3/X-A5. There are some lens-free X-A5s for around $270 CAD on eBay right now. That is another model worth considering for slightly faster operation and some limited Phase-Detect AF points. If this is just to experiment in Fuji, I don't think you can go wrong with any of these... just don't expect anything blazing fast.

Recaptcha,

To answer your question, for that price, (cad$270.00)yes the XA1 comes with the 16-50mm kit lens.. Ibdid not know about a second version kit lens? Yes, as you can see from my signature, I own other cams, so this is just me, checking out Fuji mirror less World;)..

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a_c_skinner Forum Pro • Posts: 13,047
Re: Fuji Xa1

That is ambitiously priced.  I'd look around more, perhaps an X-M1?

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Helen
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Re: Fuji Xa1

PORTRAIT wrote:

ReCaptcha wrote:

PORTRAIT wrote:

I found an XA1 model, apparently in very good condition, for a relatively good price? (CAD $270.00, my budget is very limited at the moment) and I missed the APS-C sensor as well the famous Fuji JEPG SOOC in my photography.

Is that with the 16-50mm? If it's body only I wouldn't go much higher than $150 CAD. I picked up both my X-M1 and X-A1 each for under $100 US (about $133 CAD currently).

I’m familiar with Fuji cams, as I owned some of them since the P&S era;)But I never tried a Fuji Mirrorless. For what I read, it is not a an ultra fast camera, as far as AF is concern, FPS ,etc... Other than that is anything else I need to know about this model?

The X-A1 and X-M1 came with the old first version of the XC 16-50mm. The second version of that lens improves things slightly. Due to the age of these cameras you will lose full feature compatibility with a couple of the newer lenses (XC 15-45mm for example). They'll still work, just not all features. Moving up the model chart gets you some extras:

  • X-A2: full flip screen (for selfies); bundled with 16-50mm II (v2)
  • X-E2 / X-E2s: EVF + Phase Detect AF points
  • X-A10: full flip screen + compatibility with new lenses
  • X-A3: 24mp sensor, full flip touchscreen + compatibility with new lenses

Beyond these, you are likely pushing that $270 CAD ($200 US) budget.

Any input will be appreciated. Thanks for your time.

The 16mp bodies are fun play things and the colors are nice. The X-M1/X-A1/X-A2 have slightly better build quality than the newer X-A10/X-A20 and X-A3/X-A5. There are some lens-free X-A5s for around $270 CAD on eBay right now. That is another model worth considering for slightly faster operation and some limited Phase-Detect AF points. If this is just to experiment in Fuji, I don't think you can go wrong with any of these... just don't expect anything blazing fast.

Recaptcha,

To answer your question, for that price, (cad$270.00)yes the XA1 comes with the 16-50mm kit lens.. Ibdid not know about a second version kit lens? Yes, as you can see from my signature, I own other cams, so this is just me, checking out Fuji mirror less World;)..

The X-A1 was the first model in the Fuji range to use a Bayer sensor (the conventional type) rather than the Fuji proprietary X-Trans; other than that and the colour combinations of the body covering (and in the case of the all-black, the texture of the body covering) it is physically identical to the X-Trans equipped X-M1 which launched before it. As others have said, these models have a tilt screen (normal angle range, i.e. for shooting overhead and at waist level) and were also the first Fujis with normal PSAM mode dials rather than the traditional-style shutter speed dial on the body. The X-A1 has nice image quality; like the X-M1 its bodywork is all-plastic (no metal covers here, though the top dials are metal) and it's quite easy to tell this when handling it - but it is consequently light. In modern terms it's a rather sedate performer as far as speed goes, and lacking some of the niceties introduced to the range as time has passed. It uses the same size battery as the rest of the Fuji X range.  You probably already know that it has no EVF, and no method to add one.  Mechanical shutter only (no silent shutter feature, nor EFCS; the latter so far only appears on the X-H1 and X-T3 anyway).

The original-type 16-50 XC lens it was supplied with looks identical to the 16-50 XC II which has just been discontinued and which superceded it; both are impressive performers optically for their price (the II is marked II on the product label under the mount and on the name ring around the optics) - the II improved the IBIS a little and more significantly, provided a much closer minimum focus ability.

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PORTRAIT wrote:

To answer your question, for that price, (cad$270.00)yes the XA1 comes with the 16-50mm kit lens.

OK not a bad price then, but I still think you should be able to find one of the slightly newer body combos for less.

I did not know about a second version kit lens?

I believe the differences were better OIS and close focus than version I.  It's marked with a II on the lens.  Optically, I believe there are pretty much the same.

Yes, as you can see from my signature, I own other cams, so this is just me, checking out Fuji mirror less World

I did the miss the XQ1 in your signature.  Same menus, so any Fuji APS-C should be an easy addition to your club.  I've thought about adding an XQ1 or 2 myself since even with the 27mm, I can't quite pocket an X-A body.

Good luck with your search.

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Re: Fuji Xa1

Helen wrote:

PORTRAIT wrote:

ReCaptcha wrote:

PORTRAIT wrote:

I found an XA1 model, apparently in very good condition, for a relatively good price? (CAD $270.00, my budget is very limited at the moment) and I missed the APS-C sensor as well the famous Fuji JEPG SOOC in my photography.

Is that with the 16-50mm? If it's body only I wouldn't go much higher than $150 CAD. I picked up both my X-M1 and X-A1 each for under $100 US (about $133 CAD currently).

I’m familiar with Fuji cams, as I owned some of them since the P&S era;)But I never tried a Fuji Mirrorless. For what I read, it is not a an ultra fast camera, as far as AF is concern, FPS ,etc... Other than that is anything else I need to know about this model?

The X-A1 and X-M1 came with the old first version of the XC 16-50mm. The second version of that lens improves things slightly. Due to the age of these cameras you will lose full feature compatibility with a couple of the newer lenses (XC 15-45mm for example). They'll still work, just not all features. Moving up the model chart gets you some extras:

  • X-A2: full flip screen (for selfies); bundled with 16-50mm II (v2)
  • X-E2 / X-E2s: EVF + Phase Detect AF points
  • X-A10: full flip screen + compatibility with new lenses
  • X-A3: 24mp sensor, full flip touchscreen + compatibility with new lenses

Beyond these, you are likely pushing that $270 CAD ($200 US) budget.

Any input will be appreciated. Thanks for your time.

The 16mp bodies are fun play things and the colors are nice. The X-M1/X-A1/X-A2 have slightly better build quality than the newer X-A10/X-A20 and X-A3/X-A5. There are some lens-free X-A5s for around $270 CAD on eBay right now. That is another model worth considering for slightly faster operation and some limited Phase-Detect AF points. If this is just to experiment in Fuji, I don't think you can go wrong with any of these... just don't expect anything blazing fast.

Recaptcha,

To answer your question, for that price, (cad$270.00)yes the XA1 comes with the 16-50mm kit lens.. Ibdid not know about a second version kit lens? Yes, as you can see from my signature, I own other cams, so this is just me, checking out Fuji mirror less World;)..

The X-A1 was the first model in the Fuji range to use a Bayer sensor (the conventional type) rather than the Fuji proprietary X-Trans; other than that and the colour combinations of the body covering (and in the case of the all-black, the texture of the body covering) it is physically identical to the X-Trans equipped X-M1 which launched before it. As others have said, these models have a tilt screen (normal angle range, i.e. for shooting overhead and at waist level) and were also the first Fujis with normal PSAM mode dials rather than the traditional-style shutter speed dial on the body. The X-A1 has nice image quality; like the X-M1 its bodywork is all-plastic (no metal covers here, though the top dials are metal) and it's quite easy to tell this when handling it - but it is consequently light. In modern terms it's a rather sedate performer as far as speed goes, and lacking some of the niceties introduced to the range as time has passed. It uses the same size battery as the rest of the Fuji X range. You probably already know that it has no EVF, and no method to add one. Mechanical shutter only (no silent shutter feature, nor EFCS; the latter so far only appears on the X-H1 and X-T3 anyway).

The original-type 16-50 XC lens it was supplied with looks identical to the 16-50 XC II which has just been discontinued and which superceded it; both are impressive performers optically for their price (the II is marked II on the product label under the mount and on the name ring around the optics) - the II improved the IBIS a little and more significantly, provided a much closer minimum focus ability.

Thanks Helen, ReCaptcha, Justin 9999, For your valuable input, If everything goes well I should get to see the cam today or tomorrow.

Helen, you just reminded me that the XA1 does not have the EFCS feature, not a deal breaker for me anyway ( I do have other cams with that), but one thing it comes to my mind to ask, is if anyone knows if  this particular model suffers of any shutter shock at all? the reason I'm asking is because  I have the Oly EPL5 and the shutter shock can rise it's ugly ears depending on the condition, as it does not have any EFCS to eliminate that...

Marco

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a_c_skinner Forum Pro • Posts: 13,047
Re: Fuji Xa1

I got rid of the first Pen because of shutter shock, my X-M1 seemed not to be troubled.

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The X-A1 is a nice camera. It just depends on what you are going to use it for. If you are primarily doing landscapes or static portraits (your name is PORTRAIT, so I'm guessing it may be the latter), it does a great job.

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Re: Fuji Xa1

PORTRAIT wrote:

Helen wrote:

PORTRAIT wrote:

ReCaptcha wrote:

PORTRAIT wrote:

I found an XA1 model, apparently in very good condition, for a relatively good price? (CAD $270.00, my budget is very limited at the moment) and I missed the APS-C sensor as well the famous Fuji JEPG SOOC in my photography.

Is that with the 16-50mm? If it's body only I wouldn't go much higher than $150 CAD. I picked up both my X-M1 and X-A1 each for under $100 US (about $133 CAD currently).

I’m familiar with Fuji cams, as I owned some of them since the P&S era;)But I never tried a Fuji Mirrorless. For what I read, it is not a an ultra fast camera, as far as AF is concern, FPS ,etc... Other than that is anything else I need to know about this model?

The X-A1 and X-M1 came with the old first version of the XC 16-50mm. The second version of that lens improves things slightly. Due to the age of these cameras you will lose full feature compatibility with a couple of the newer lenses (XC 15-45mm for example). They'll still work, just not all features. Moving up the model chart gets you some extras:

  • X-A2: full flip screen (for selfies); bundled with 16-50mm II (v2)
  • X-E2 / X-E2s: EVF + Phase Detect AF points
  • X-A10: full flip screen + compatibility with new lenses
  • X-A3: 24mp sensor, full flip touchscreen + compatibility with new lenses

Beyond these, you are likely pushing that $270 CAD ($200 US) budget.

Any input will be appreciated. Thanks for your time.

The 16mp bodies are fun play things and the colors are nice. The X-M1/X-A1/X-A2 have slightly better build quality than the newer X-A10/X-A20 and X-A3/X-A5. There are some lens-free X-A5s for around $270 CAD on eBay right now. That is another model worth considering for slightly faster operation and some limited Phase-Detect AF points. If this is just to experiment in Fuji, I don't think you can go wrong with any of these... just don't expect anything blazing fast.

Recaptcha,

To answer your question, for that price, (cad$270.00)yes the XA1 comes with the 16-50mm kit lens.. Ibdid not know about a second version kit lens? Yes, as you can see from my signature, I own other cams, so this is just me, checking out Fuji mirror less World;)..

The X-A1 was the first model in the Fuji range to use a Bayer sensor (the conventional type) rather than the Fuji proprietary X-Trans; other than that and the colour combinations of the body covering (and in the case of the all-black, the texture of the body covering) it is physically identical to the X-Trans equipped X-M1 which launched before it. As others have said, these models have a tilt screen (normal angle range, i.e. for shooting overhead and at waist level) and were also the first Fujis with normal PSAM mode dials rather than the traditional-style shutter speed dial on the body. The X-A1 has nice image quality; like the X-M1 its bodywork is all-plastic (no metal covers here, though the top dials are metal) and it's quite easy to tell this when handling it - but it is consequently light. In modern terms it's a rather sedate performer as far as speed goes, and lacking some of the niceties introduced to the range as time has passed. It uses the same size battery as the rest of the Fuji X range. You probably already know that it has no EVF, and no method to add one. Mechanical shutter only (no silent shutter feature, nor EFCS; the latter so far only appears on the X-H1 and X-T3 anyway).

The original-type 16-50 XC lens it was supplied with looks identical to the 16-50 XC II which has just been discontinued and which superceded it; both are impressive performers optically for their price (the II is marked II on the product label under the mount and on the name ring around the optics) - the II improved the IBIS a little and more significantly, provided a much closer minimum focus ability.

Thanks Helen, ReCaptcha, Justin 9999, For your valuable input, If everything goes well I should get to see the cam today or tomorrow.

Helen, you just reminded me that the XA1 does not have the EFCS feature, not a deal breaker for me anyway ( I do have other cams with that), but one thing it comes to my mind to ask, is if anyone knows if this particular model suffers of any shutter shock at all? the reason I'm asking is because I have the Oly EPL5 and the shutter shock can rise it's ugly ears depending on the condition, as it does not have any EFCS to eliminate that...

Marco

I haven't caught any Fujis showing shutter shock, except for with the recent 15-45 Power Zoom, which is slightly vulnerable to being disturbed by it (it shows just as a slight softening, rather than a misregistered double image showing on contrasty edges).  My experience of this has been on models such as the X-E3, X-T20, X-T30 - none of which have EFCS available - but they do have full electronic (silent) shutter options, and that's how I know how much sharper this lens can be at certain speeds if not using the mechanical shutter.  I haven't bothered trying it on the X-A1, as that camera is one of those that the 15-45 PZ doesn't operate at its best on - for best handling, it needs the camera to have suitably updated firmware.  Without it, the lens has no display whatsoever of its zoom position (since the barrel's not marked, so on updated bodies it shows a zoom gauge); it also retracts completely if you press the image playback button, which causes a delay, a black screen, and unnecessary battery drain.  It also can't remember what zoom position you were last using, both on this playback retract, and on power off.

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Beautiful Portrait indeed! What lens were you using?Thanks for sharing!

Marco

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a_c_skinner wrote:

I got rid of the first Pen because of shutter shock, my X-M1 seemed not to be troubled.

Yep, that's why I'm selling it;)...

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Helen,

Thanks, Indeed, I'm suppose to be getting it with the 16-50mm. , Although not sure  which version yet... I keep my finger crossed ...

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56 1.2. It's my favorite lens for portraits by far.

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Re: Fuji Xa1
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Got the cam! (XA1)it is in good general condition, the lens cap is not the original one:( the batt.is being charging, It actually came with 2 original batt.!Question, the Firmware is the 1.00 , is it worth to update it to the latest one? And if yes what are the benefits?

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Re: Fuji X-A1 Firmware

PORTRAIT wrote:

Got the cam! (XA1)it is in good general condition, the lens cap is not the original one:( the batt.is being charging, It actually came with 2 original batt.!Question, the Firmware is the 1.00 , is it worth to update it to the latest one? And if yes what are the benefits?

I would say yes, it is worth it. Version 1.50 adds compatibility with the 80mm macro, and the lengthy list of updates between 1.01 and 1.40 can be viewed here:

https://www.fujifilm.com/support/digital_cameras/software/firmware/x/xa1/history.html

It's a long list. It looks like compatibility with 7 additional lenses is added with the update, plus several other fixes.

Here's the link to the firmware:

https://www.fujifilm.com/support/digital_cameras/software/firmware/x/xa1/index.html

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