Sony 90mm G Macro vs Voigtlander 110mm Macro APO

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arneh Regular Member • Posts: 163
Re: Sony 90mm G Macro vs Voigtlander 110mm Macro APO
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mujana wrote:

I’ve looked at the Laowa as well, but I don’t like the fact that it has no electronic contacts and so no communication with camera at all. With the Voigtlander camerasettings (f- stop) is visible and I can use focus peaking as well in MF.

Even without electronic contacts you will still have focus peaking and magnification. So manual focus is no harder than on a lens with contacts. Although you will have to switch to magnified view manually instead of it happening with twisting focus ring.

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mujana Veteran Member • Posts: 7,372
Re: Sony 90mm G Macro vs Voigtlander 110mm Macro APO

Thnxs arneh!

rneh wrote:

mujana wrote:

I’ve looked at the Laowa as well, but I don’t like the fact that it has no electronic contacts and so no communication with camera at all. With the Voigtlander camerasettings (f- stop) is visible and I can use focus peaking as well in MF.

Even without electronic contacts you will still have focus peaking and magnification.

didn’t know that. Thank you! On Fred Miranda forum someone is very enthousiast about the Laowa 100mm. According to him, this lens is sharpest of all.

So manual focus is no harder than on a lens with contacts. Although you will have to switch to magnified view manually instead of it happening with twisting focus ring.

switching on camera...can it stay in magnified view while focussing. Or do I have to switch over and over again?

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mujana Veteran Member • Posts: 7,372
Re: Sony 90mm G Macro vs Voigtlander 110mm Macro APO

thnxs sanosai

sanosai wrote:

mujana wrote:

thank you sanosai. Good, that you found your macro lens.

sanosai wrote:

mujana wrote:

I’m sorry to push this old thread up again, but I ‘m curious. What lens did you choose?
I’m in the same situation as you, and trying to choose between Voigtlander 110mm macro and Sony 90mm macro.

thank you

I went for the 90mm Sony (and have no regrets). I m not saying that I m consistently getting excellent results (this has to do with my lack of skills needed to fully exploit my gear!)

I just think that I couldn't live without OSS (as my a6300 doesn't have in body stabi), plus for the near to 1:1 distances, it is reported to still be the sharpest out there. Occasionally, when I manage to get everything right, I m really happy with results. Hopefully, as I up my skills, I ll get more consistent results!

I’m not experienced in macro photography either. I’ll have to learn. Beside that, I use the A7RIV with IBIS (but many more pixels to deal with...probably more critical to movement). But I can also crop to APS-C size.

I m not particularly impressed with AF speed of the 90mm. I am saying that in comparison to the 100-400GM which I ve rented for 3 days (it was blazzingly fast to focus, even on my a6300). But this is probably an unfair comparison because a) 90mm is not a GM, b) I don't have an a9 to draw safe conclusions about its speed c) it is said that pure macro lenses aren't the fastest in terms of AF performance. Also, as I get close to 1:1 range, its really struggling to focus at all (so I have to switch to MF). Luckily, I don't use AF too often, so I m not really impacted by this.

that seems to be the major difference between the Voigtlander and the Sony (MF/AF). I will probably not use a macro lens for portraits (have my Batis 85 for that), or anything other than macro and slide copying. Now if the AF is of less or no use in macro photography, then I could as well buy a true MF lens like the Voigtlander. How is the focus throw on the Sony? I’ve read that it’s a bit small/short and not easy to work accurately in 1:1? What are your experiences here? The Voigtlander has a very large/long focus throw (not handy for portraits/etc., but better for macro 1:1 (?).

IMHO, the 90mm Sony still remains the class leading option for hardcore macro on Sony FE. I still have lots of respect for the 110mm V. (judging by the reviews

same here....judging by reviews and user experiences. Unfortunately there’s no place here, where I could try both (especially the Voigtlander).

if I was to go fully manual, I d be tempted by the Laowa option (e.g. 2.5- 5x) to get that extra magnification

I’ve looked at the Laowa as well, but I don’t like the fact that it has no electronic contacts and so no communication with camera at all. With the Voigtlander camerasettings (f- stop) is visible and I can use focus peaking as well in MF. With 60Mp in my A7RIV, I can crop quite a bit .

I can't accurately commend on the focus throw, as I haven't had any other macro lens for comparison. Getting close towards 1:1 is a bit challenging, but to me this is due to the fact it uses focus by wire. Although very good as implementation, it could never match a buttery-smooth mechanical focus in my opinion. I was thinking that I might opt for a guide to attach on the focusing ring. That became more apparent to my few focus stacking attempts, where I need to be able to move in 1mm steps for taking each shot (it's really hard!)

Good point about the lack of electrical contacts in the Venus options. Certainly a plus for the Voigtlander in that respect - although I would have preferred to be able to achieve at least 2:1 ...

agree about the 2:1 option. On the other hand...I can crop quite a bit with the A7RIV

Also, another drawback of the Voigtlander is that it extends...that will make things more challenging, especially as you get closer to 1:1, but yet again some have learn to live with it. It's a matter of practice/perssistence I guess!

Isn’t it possible to set the lens to 1:1 (on any subject), and then keep it like this when shooting more macro (ofcourse within one shooting session)?

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arneh Regular Member • Posts: 163
Re: Sony 90mm G Macro vs Voigtlander 110mm Macro APO

mujana wrote:

Thnxs arneh!

So manual focus is no harder than on a lens with contacts. Although you will have to switch to magnified view manually instead of it happening with twisting focus ring.

switching on camera...can it stay in magnified view while focussing. Or do I have to switch over and over again?

Yes, of course The camera doesn't know if you're focusing or not (it's without contacts remember), so it will stay magnified until you turn the magnification off again or press the shutter (I also think you can set a time limit, if you prefer).
Easiest of course if you assign a custom button to magnified view, then it's quick to magnify and return to regular unmagnified view.

The "focus standard" button option can also be used. In AF mode it will change focus area, while in MF it will magnify.

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OP sanosai Regular Member • Posts: 220
Re: Sony 90mm G Macro vs Voigtlander 110mm Macro APO

I d suggest you watch this

If you are happy with going fully manual (and don't need the extra magnification offered by the Laowa), I d think that from an IQ perspective, the 110mm is the obvious choice.

There is also the 65mm Voig macro, which isn't really a true macro, as it only does 1:2. Again, if you don't need 1:1, that's probably your best choice of all, as it's still considered the sharpest lens on FE.

I m kind of disappointed of it not being weather sealed - but I d be cautious with any lens on anything more than a drizzle.

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mujana Veteran Member • Posts: 7,372
Re: Sony 90mm G Macro vs Voigtlander 110mm Macro APO

sanosai wrote:

I d suggest you watch this

I’ve watched that video. Informative.

If you are happy with going fully manual (and don't need the extra magnification offered by the Laowa), I d think that from an IQ perspective, the 110mm is the obvious choice.

After reading almost everything there is about Voigtlander/Laowa/Sony 90mm, I have the impression that at 1:1 there’s not much of an IQ difference. Might be wrong ofcourse.

There is also the 65mm Voig macro, which isn't really a true macro, as it only does 1:2. Again, if you don't need 1:1, that's probably your best choice of all, as it's still considered the sharpest lens on FE.

Could be, but I really want 1:1 (also for digitalizing my slides).

I m kind of disappointed of it not being weather sealed - but I d be cautious with any lens on anything more than a drizzle.

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