Olympus E-PL9 mini review

JakeJY wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

This is something I can't see the GM5/GX850 doing, simply because in e-shutter they lose 1 stop DR.

While the GM5 does use 10-bit e-shutter, from my testing of the sample I had, the GX850 actually has 12-bit e-shutter.

Unfortunatley that’s not my experience   The best way to see this is to shoot something like say is 1600 underexposed  same scene one with e shutter and the other without   I don’t have my gx850 with me but I could get and try by next Sunday

If you have a sample where it drops 1 stop DR I would be curious to see it. Maybe there are different modes where it switches between the two.

there are modes to switch between mechanical and Wah utter like the gm5   It’s pretty much the same as gm5 here except the gx850 benefits from no AA filter than the joeg engine and even raw seems a bit better

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/62492124

How do you find the skin tones & colours (jpegs) compared with GX9. From what I have seen of reviews for the GX9, Panasonic seemed to have really improved on their jpegs, especially skin tones. Just wondering if you had any thoughts v the EPL9?

tenthwashfree wrote:

How do you find the skin tones & colours (jpegs) compared with GX9. From what I have seen of reviews for the GX9, Panasonic seemed to have really improved on their jpegs, especially skin tones. Just wondering if you had any thoughts v the EPL9?

sorry for the delay   Skintones are ok but all modesty n the epl9 seem more saturated than the same modes on em5 or penf   I guess it’s the market it’s aimed at  you can always dial the saturation and contrast a notch

gx9-Panasonic has indeed improved their color science and overall performance the pretty decent now  in more difficult light or with sone yellows, I would fill give Olympus the edge

tedolf wrote:

It would be perfect if it had the EVF/accesory port.

TEdolph

I think for the target market , ok not to have the evf

but also I think it should be at least 16mp no AA  quite frankly the 20mp no AA

and the selfie screen should come in from the top- the only reason I can think for them using it down is some patent

Raist3d wrote:

Philly wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

Philly wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

Philly wrote:

magnesus3 wrote:

Philly wrote:

Does it have EFCS? (sorry, too lazy to look up) That's the main thing that I miss on my E-PM2. I'm not sure why you and others have such a high interest in electronic shutter. For the silent shooting ability? Anyway, if Oly ever puts the 20MP sensor (with PDAF) in a E-PM body for $1,000 or less, I would buy. Guess I may even accept E-PL body size. But the downward tilting selfie screen does seem very awkward.

Electronic shutter beside being silent gives you no shutter shock (very important with some lenses and high res mode), and the normal shutter isn't used meaning it will last longer.

Shutter shock is the main problem with my E-PM2. That's why I want EFCS (Electronic First Curtain Shutter). On subsequent Oly bodies like E-M1, EFCS is sufficient to eliminate shutter shock. It's good enough for me. I don't need electronic shutter--unless it's a global shutter. In fact, I consider electronic shutter a disadvantage much of the time (rolling shutter, limited flash capabilities). So it's always surprising to me that a lot of the GM enthusiasts are so keen for electronic shutter, and so willing to accept the disadvantages for the capability to shoot silently. Or is there anything else? I can't imagine that 1/16,000 shutter speed is an important capability.

1/16,000 is important if you want to shoot with shorter DOF in medium to daylight.

Fair enough. I don't typically try for shallow depth of field in daylight. But in my case, in those rare instances, I usually find myself in lighting situations that require the use of high speed flash--and a mechanical shutter. And 1/8000 is good enough--for me.

The EPL9 doesn't have 1/8000, but 1/4000. I believe same for the other Pens down.

Yes, I believe so. I don't think even E-M5 bodies have 1/8000, but I could be wrong.

EM5 MKII does, and also the Pen-F.

And the severely ignored E-P5 has 1/8000 and EFCS for anti-shock but no fully electronic shutter.

Regards.... Guy