Canon 14-21mm 1.4L

Peak freak wrote:

I see Canon Rumors are talking up the chance of a Super wide, super fast zoom, again.

I expect this lens would be awesome for things like astro-photography and some other things I can't think of, but I really don't see the point of this lens from a practical or business point of view (at least in the short term), so a brief, informal Poll.

My point being, would Canon sell enough such exotic lens to make it worthwhile compared to a lens with 'mass market' appeal.

Would you rather Canon make a:

I love the 16-35/4LIS for travel.  And I find I don't use it at the long end that often (or if I do, I really wanted a lot more reach).  I would love the idea of a Canon version of the newly announced Nikon 14-30/4 S.  If it had the IQ of the EF16-35/4LIS and the size of the Nikon it would be a home run.

gimp_dad wrote:

Peak freak wrote:

I see Canon Rumors are talking up the chance of a Super wide, super fast zoom, again.

I expect this lens would be awesome for things like astro-photography and some other things I can't think of, but I really don't see the point of this lens from a practical or business point of view (at least in the short term), so a brief, informal Poll.

My point being, would Canon sell enough such exotic lens to make it worthwhile compared to a lens with 'mass market' appeal.

Would you rather Canon make a:

I love the 16-35/4LIS for travel. And I find I don't use it at the long end that often (or if I do, I really wanted a lot more reach). I would love the idea of a Canon version of the newly announced Nikon 14-30/4 S. If it had the IQ of the EF16-35/4LIS and the size of the Nikon it would be a home run.

Thanks, and I have similar thoughts (although I find I actually do use the 35mm end often).

It is great that Canon could engineer such a lens as a 14-21/1.4, and I know it is only a rumor but it seems to be gathering a bit of momentum.

I would much rather see (at his early stage of RF development) rumors of relatively small and light RF versions of lenses like my much loved EF 16-35/4. [It's great that the EF adaptor works so well, but how long would I have to use it?]

Peak freak wrote:

I see Canon Rumors are talking up the chance of a Super wide, super fast zoom, again.

I expect this lens would be awesome for things like astro-photography and some other things I can't think of, but I really don't see the point of this lens from a practical or business point of view (at least in the short term), so a brief, informal Poll.

My point being, would Canon sell enough such exotic lens to make it worthwhile compared to a lens with 'mass market' appeal.

Would you rather Canon make a:

Can I say, just a 14mm 1.4L prime instead to keep the size and price down.

M19 wrote:

Peak freak wrote:

I see Canon Rumors are talking up the chance of a Super wide, super fast zoom, again.

I expect this lens would be awesome for things like astro-photography and some other things I can't think of, but I really don't see the point of this lens from a practical or business point of view (at least in the short term), so a brief, informal Poll.

My point being, would Canon sell enough such exotic lens to make it worthwhile compared to a lens with 'mass market' appeal.

Would you rather Canon make a:

Can I say, just a 14mm 1.4L prime instead to keep the size and price down.

Sure, that would make more sense to me.

A 14-21/1.4 zoom seems like overkill to me, but I've seen it mentioned a couple of times now. I think a compact, more affordable ultrawide zoom would be much more popular, so just figured I would ask the question.

Peak freak wrote:

M19 wrote:

Peak freak wrote:

I see Canon Rumors are talking up the chance of a Super wide, super fast zoom, again.

I expect this lens would be awesome for things like astro-photography and some other things I can't think of, but I really don't see the point of this lens from a practical or business point of view (at least in the short term), so a brief, informal Poll.

My point being, would Canon sell enough such exotic lens to make it worthwhile compared to a lens with 'mass market' appeal.

Would you rather Canon make a:

Can I say, just a 14mm 1.4L prime instead to keep the size and price down.

Sure, that would make more sense to me.

A 14-21/1.4 zoom seems like overkill to me, but I've seen it mentioned a couple of times now. I think a compact, more affordable ultrawide zoom would be much more popular, so just figured I would ask the question.

True that, a 14mm 1.4 prime would be monster for astro, beating the Sigma by 2/3 stop.

Peak freak wrote:

gimp_dad wrote:

Peak freak wrote:

I see Canon Rumors are talking up the chance of a Super wide, super fast zoom, again.

I expect this lens would be awesome for things like astro-photography and some other things I can't think of, but I really don't see the point of this lens from a practical or business point of view (at least in the short term), so a brief, informal Poll.

My point being, would Canon sell enough such exotic lens to make it worthwhile compared to a lens with 'mass market' appeal.

Would you rather Canon make a:

I love the 16-35/4LIS for travel. And I find I don't use it at the long end that often (or if I do, I really wanted a lot more reach). I would love the idea of a Canon version of the newly announced Nikon 14-30/4 S. If it had the IQ of the EF16-35/4LIS and the size of the Nikon it would be a home run.

Thanks, and I have similar thoughts (although I find I actually do use the 35mm end often).

It is great that Canon could engineer such a lens as a 14-21/1.4, and I know it is only a rumor but it seems to be gathering a bit of momentum.

I would much rather see (at his early stage of RF development) rumors of relatively small and light RF versions of lenses like my much loved EF 16-35/4. [It's great that the EF adaptor works so well, but how long would I have to use it?]

Exactly. And the adapter is fine but adds to the size. I too would be happy with just something like the 16-35/4LIS but hopefully a little smaller in RF form. As a matter of fact, that's the first RF lens I would have wanted.

Peak freak wrote:

I see Canon Rumors are talking up the chance of a Super wide, super fast zoom, again.

I expect this lens would be awesome for things like astro-photography and some other things I can't think of, but I really don't see the point of this lens from a practical or business point of view (at least in the short term), so a brief, informal Poll.

My point being, would Canon sell enough such exotic lens to make it worthwhile compared to a lens with 'mass market' appeal.

Would you rather Canon make a:

I'm more curious why you think it's impossible for Canon do to both lenses.

rrccad wrote:

I'm more curious why you think it's impossible for Canon do to both lenses.

I don't doubt Canon could do both lenses, but where are the rumors or Canon roadmap for compact RF zooms similar to the Nikon lenses? To me, these make more sense than Canon proving they can make lenses that haven't been made before.

I'm a long time Canon user that has been pondering an update to my venerable 5D2.

I'm looking at the very good offerings from Sony, Nikon, Fuji and the EOS R. I have a limited budget that the EOS falls nicely within, but I would also like a native lens selection that leverages the benefits of the new mirrorless design by being compact and affordable rather than 'awesome' but big and expensive too.

I am trying to gauge a bit of feedback and there seems to a bit of support for more 'real world use' lenses. They might come, but instead I am seeing patents and rumors of a 'mega lens'.

Personally, I think the 14-21/1.4 zoom is bordering on ridiculous when a prime would would be more practical. I expect the 15-35/2.8 to be a fantastic lens, but reasonably pricey because of it's 'pro' designation. I want an 'RF 16-35/4' for about $1000  and similar offerings. I don't think I am alone on that.

N-VB wrote:

That's quite a restrictive poll.

There is already a 16-35 f4 IS for 1k$ on the market. I can already see the comments "it's not a native lens". Canon lens on Canon system, it is native, it's even more accurate and faster than on any dlsr i ever used.

Concerned, the 14-2 f1.4, there is countless possibilities: astro, events, weddings, action in extreme sports, etc. A lens that no one ever seen before. It will not be cheap, but i'd kill to have one.

Fair enough, but for me to really get interested in the EOS R, I want to see lenses like the Nikon 14-30/4 available, rather than having to adapt my 16-35/4. I think the adapter and its performance is a great job by Canon, but for how long do I have to rely on it? [The adapter is not realizing all the benefits of the more compact mirrorless bodies - certainly not the RP.]

photosen wrote:

I love the idea of the 14-21, I doubt I'd ever be able to afford it or even find an excuse for it; if an RF 16-35 f4 at $1,000 improves on the already very good EF version, it would make an R camera almost a no brainer for me.

Thanks, and I agree.

An RF 14-21/1.4 would be an impressive feat, but for a number of reasons doesn't encourage me into the R system. However, relatively compact and affordable but well performing zooms? Well, like you say, it would almost be a 'no-brainer'.

[Note: I am sure we will eventually get these lenses, but Canon seems interested in promoting more exotic lenses like this 14-21 and the 28-70/2 which is great, but I am not a pro with bottomless pockets).

Peak freak wrote:

rrccad wrote:

I'm more curious why you think it's impossible for Canon do to both lenses.

I don't doubt Canon could do both lenses, but where are the rumors or Canon roadmap for compact RF zooms similar to the Nikon lenses? To me, these make more sense than Canon proving they can make lenses that haven't been made before.

To be honest, they could have already done the patents for the more common lenses, and just slipped it into a patent application that got missed.

24-85mm and 24-70 F4.0 was done btw on patents

https://www.canonnews.com/Canon-Patents/canon-patent-application-canon-rf-24-85mm-24-70mm

here's another exotic lens that may be coming, I know it's not what you want to hear though

https://www.canonnews.com/Canon-Patents/canon-patent-application-canon-applies-for-a-mirrorless-full-frame-20-zoom

rrccad wrote:

Peak freak wrote:

rrccad wrote:

I'm more curious why you think it's impossible for Canon do to both lenses.

I don't doubt Canon could do both lenses, but where are the rumors or Canon roadmap for compact RF zooms similar to the Nikon lenses? To me, these make more sense than Canon proving they can make lenses that haven't been made before.

To be honest, they could have already done the patents for the more common lenses, and just slipped it into a patent application that got missed.

24-85mm and 24-70 F4.0 was done btw on patents

https://www.canonnews.com/Canon-Patents/canon-patent-application-canon-rf-24-85mm-24-70mm

here's another exotic lens that may be coming, I know it's not what you want to hear though

https://www.canonnews.com/Canon-Patents/canon-patent-application-canon-applies-for-a-mirrorless-full-frame-20-zoom

Thanks.

I have no problem with Canon making radical lens designs, so long as it doesn't mean I'm stuck with having to use an EF adapter for 'normal' lenses any longer than necessary.

People have different priorities of course, but for me, smaller, lighter and relatively affordable lenses that perform like their EF cousins are much more attractive than esoteric, expensive lenses.