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GX7 - Lens for taking photos of the Moon

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Dykie2000 New Member • Posts: 1
GX7 - Lens for taking photos of the Moon

I am looking to take photos of the Moon, I have a few lenses:

Panasonic 14-43mm, 45-200mm and 100-300mm but I want to be able to take closer photos to enable me to see the surface in greater detail.

I was looking at something greater than 500mm or thinking is there a 2.0x teleconverter that would work with my current lenses?

I am new to this and would like to know your thoughts.

D

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Nikonparrothead Veteran Member • Posts: 6,068
Re: GX7 - Lens for taking photos of the Moon

I rented the Panasonic 100-400 to test drive and that was quite nice. I don't know if it will work with any teleconverter though.

The Olympus 300 F4 can be used with the Olympus 1.4 TC.

A friend of mine was able to borrow one from Olympus (through a local camera store) and use just the 300 F4 for the moon and got fairly nice results.

Of course, with an adapter, you can use all sorts of lenses on the GX7.

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Mark9473 Veteran Member • Posts: 6,428
Re: GX7 - Lens for taking photos of the Moon

How detailed do you want to get?

This is taken with a 555mm f/7 lens - I find this pretty good detail, but it's nothing compared to what the real experts do.

If you'd use a much longer lens (telescope) on a tracking mount, that's a whole different level of detail.

Be aware that once you have a few dozen of images like the above, there's really nothing much more to photograph. You could instead try to image the Moon in its surroundings, which doesn't require a lot of detail and can be done with mainstream camera lenses. No need for a telescope or super-telelens if you find interesting compositions.

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larsbc Forum Pro • Posts: 18,282
Re: GX7 - Lens for taking photos of the Moon

Dykie2000 wrote:

I am looking to take photos of the Moon, I have a few lenses:

Panasonic 14-43mm, 45-200mm and 100-300mm but I want to be able to take closer photos to enable me to see the surface in greater detail.

I was looking at something greater than 500mm or thinking is there a 2.0x teleconverter that would work with my current lenses?

I am new to this and would like to know your thoughts.

I photographed the moon with a 100-400 but it's a rather expensive choice if that's the only thing you want to do with it.  400 isn't really long enough, either.  This shot still required a fair amount of cropping:

As the other poster mentioned, you might be better off with an adapter and using an inexpensive manual focus fixed focal length telephoto.  A 500mm mirror (catadioptric) lens might actually work ok and could probably be found used for not much money.  Or a telescope with an adapter.

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Yannis1976 Veteran Member • Posts: 6,309
Re: GX7 - Lens for taking photos of the Moon
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Dykie2000 wrote:

I am looking to take photos of the Moon, I have a few lenses:

Panasonic 14-43mm, 45-200mm and 100-300mm but I want to be able to take closer photos to enable me to see the surface in greater detail.

I was looking at something greater than 500mm or thinking is there a 2.0x teleconverter that would work with my current lenses?

I am new to this and would like to know your thoughts.

D

OR you can get used one of the "cheap" super zoom compacts such as the Panasonic FZ80 or Nikon B600/700/900/1000 or maybe even the TZ70-90 series. They all have small sensors with very long lenses which however can shoot very good moon shots.

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Astrotripper Veteran Member • Posts: 8,676
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A catadioptric telescope will be cheap and will give you very long focal length. They are usually quite slow, so you're going to be in diffraction territory. But you will not get anything like that with a regular photo lens. Not at a reasonable price. Also, you can use a Barlow lens with a telescope to increase its focal length (it's basically a teleconverter for telescopes). So a 2600mm will cost like $400 or so. But you'd have to read up on Mooon imaging techniques to get anything useful out of that.

TS Optics makes a "lens version" of such a telescope. A 1000mm f/10. If not for its unwieldy weight of 2.3 kg, I'd have already gave it a try.

Anyway, here's example from my SkyWatcher Mak102 with a focal reducer (around 900mm). At it's original 1300mm, it's not possible to fill full moon in the frame.

There's more Moon shots in my flickr album .

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David Kieltyka Veteran Member • Posts: 6,450
Re: GX7 - Lens for taking photos of the Moon

This is with an E-M5 (16mp sensor) via a Nikkor 400/3.5 lens and its matched 2x TC, for a combined focal length of 800mm. Uncropped.

E-M5, Nikkor 400/3.5 & 2x TC @ ~f/11 (effective).

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Re: GX7 - Lens for taking photos of the Moon

Unless you want to just take washed-out full moon shots, the best solution is a telescope, not a camera lens and one with a focal length long enough to fill the frame with the moon.  Good telescopes are Maksutov-Cassegrains from companies like Orion, Celestron, Meade, TS, Agena Astro or longer refractors (1000mm or more).  They don't require collimation like Schmidt-Cassegrains do.  Good camera lenses long enough and good enough to do  the job will generally cost considerably more than most telescopes except the top units.  Old camera lenses generally suffer from aberrations that impact image quality.

hindesite Veteran Member • Posts: 4,893
Re: GX7 - Lens for taking photos of the Moon

Consider a telescope since you can use it off camera as well.

Dedicated m4/3 lenses are expensive and there are not teleconverter options for most.

Legacy lenses are also a good choice but for lunar photography a mirror lens is best - no CA and decent focal lengths/quality at very cheap prices and manageable sizes. I own several and have telcons for them, too. You aren't worried about AF or donut bokeh for lunar photography.

In my case quality is very much limited by atmospheric conditions, and not always the lens I use (I live in a windy maritime environment). You'll need a decent tripod, and it is also worthwhile learning how to stack images for more detail.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3808828

While others indicate that lunar photography is boring after a few shots (generally true) there are also some pretty dramatic possibilities that few consider.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4320081

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4293781

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Boss of Sony Senior Member • Posts: 2,425
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Handheld with the GX85 and Olympus 75-300. However, the GX7 may not do as well as this under the same conditions because it has an AA filter and it doesn't have the new shutter mechanism that reduces vibrations.

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Re: GX7 - Lens for taking photos of the Moon

Dykie2000 wrote:

I am looking to take photos of the Moon, I have a few lenses:

Panasonic 14-43mm, 45-200mm and 100-300mm but I want to be able to take closer photos to enable me to see the surface in greater detail.

I was looking at something greater than 500mm or thinking is there a 2.0x teleconverter that would work with my current lenses?

I am new to this and would like to know your thoughts.

D

Hunt around for a 500mm catadioptric (mirror lens). Don't be put off by the F:/stop, usually 6.3 or 8. The moon is a lot brighter than you'd think. On the plus side, they are usually inexpensive pre-owned, they're short and light. Odds are you'll need to adapt it to MFT. That's not an expensive problem.

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Re: GX7 - Lens for taking photos of the Moon

Dykie2000 wrote:

I am looking to take photos of the Moon, I have a few lenses:

Panasonic 14-43mm, 45-200mm and 100-300mm but I want to be able to take closer photos to enable me to see the surface in greater detail.

I was looking at something greater than 500mm or thinking is there a 2.0x teleconverter that would work with my current lenses?

I am new to this and would like to know your thoughts.

D

Some MFT cameras have a 2x and 4x digital video zoom. I use it and the 100-300 for the moon. Pressing the shutter get a JPG of the shot cropped in. The resolution is a standard JPG, and the images are pretty decent at 4x.

moon shot

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