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Largely a waste of money

Started Jan 17, 2019 | User reviews
Sittatunga Veteran Member • Posts: 5,413
Re: Not my experience ...

MeanRevert wrote:

I'm looking into this lens for video so will be using it with the Metabones Speedbooster, after removing that back plastic piece.

Cropped video?  It is already a crop format lens.  I'd suggest you check the clearance between the rear element and the front element of the speedbooster too before you start taking it to bits.

A couple of questions though..

The Wiki was alluding to different versions of this lens as some were complaining about dust collecting in the lens. Was there a later version and how to identify it?

Also, has anyone compared the IS of the 17-55mm vs the 24-105mm?

Thank you!

Dave
Dave Veteran Member • Posts: 6,231
Re: Largely a waste of money

FooHead wrote:

Dave wrote:

Intolerable flare?

For a second there I thought the tree in middle of the shot was a wooley mamoth!

People have asked if it's a topiary. I tell them it's a randomary.

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StuartT50
StuartT50 Regular Member • Posts: 198
Re: Largely a waste of money

I absolutely agree. I bought it as an upgrade for the kit lens on my 750D, but the kit lens actually performs better!

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Michael Thomas Mitchell Forum Pro • Posts: 12,158
Re: Largely a waste of money

quadrox wrote:

J A C S wrote:

quadrox wrote:

So I cannot recommend this lens to anyone unless you really really need the f 2.8.

… which is the whole point...

Duh...?!

Of course one buys a faster lens to get a faster lens. What I am saying is, that in this case a faster lens doesn't get you what you would usually expect from a faster lens.

I'm an extreme pixel peeper, and I shot with both this lens and the 18-55 in various conditions, and I could not for the life of me detect a difference in the image quality. And I never felt limited by the kit zoom in any way. I even once forgot to put the 17-55 in my bag, but still had the kit zoom. I was quite anxious about it actually, but at the end of the day I hadn't missed the 17-55 one bit and the images were fine.

So yes, that f 2.8 is going to allow you to keep shooting in slightly darker conditions if you are going to shoot wide open, that is undeniable, but it's not much of a difference really. And at the long end you get a (tiny) bit of background separation wide open. But if you expect really improved image quality, handling, build quality, or anything else for that money, your'e going to be extremely disappointed.

What your analysis may indicate is that the latest kit lens is actually a decent lens for what it is. In full-frame equivalence, it offers a reasonable 28-88mm focal range as well as image stabilization. Unless one NEEDS that wider aperture, the optical quality is plenty good to serve one well. Plus it's considerably smaller, lighter and cheaper.

I once went on a cruise and carried a 5DIII with a 28-70/2.8 L. Beautiful images. The camera was stolen on the cruise, however, and in addition to replacing it with a Mark IV I also picked up a super cheap SL1 with the 18-55 kit lens. (Both were the white models, specifically for discouraging any thieves who might otherwise have thought it expensive enough to steal.) Used the heck out of it on our next cruise. All daytime photos shot at f5.6 or smaller. Again, beautiful images. Maybe that says something about how far digital photo tech and lenses have come.

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DAVID SARTI New Member • Posts: 2
Re: Largely a waste of money

At a thousand dollars i would  expect  decent  build  quality

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Dave
Dave Veteran Member • Posts: 6,231
Re: Largely a waste of money

DAVID SARTI wrote:

At a thousand dollars i would expect decent build quality

I spent about half that and expect a few if any here paid the original full price.

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ZX11
ZX11 Veteran Member • Posts: 6,156
Re: Largely a waste of money

Dave wrote:

DAVID SARTI wrote:

At a thousand dollars i would expect decent build quality

I spent about half that and expect a few if any here paid the original full price.

Was the issue of damage just the dust in the lens?  Plenty of videos on the internet about how to remove the front element and clean out the dust.  Yes, it is not weather and dust sealed like an 24-70mm f/2.8 L lens.  It just has the lens elements of a L lens.

He likely just had a ribbon cable break from flexing over 9 years.  Daily use?

Also, it would be likely that the repair service mixed up a damaged lens with this guy's lens.   I don't see any damage.  Sent it back with the wrong repair comment/letter?  I wanted this lens but never pulled the trigger on it.

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nonproshooterdad Senior Member • Posts: 1,106
Re: Largely a waste of money

The comparison should be after micro-adjustment. The kit lens is at large F number, adjustment may not as critical as the 2.8 one.

And copy variance exists for old lenses. If you buy new and not satisfied with the result, just exchange for another one. This lens can be very sharp and contrasty, much better than the kit lens.

Dave
Dave Veteran Member • Posts: 6,231
Re: Largely a waste of money
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I am pleased with this fading light shot.  Probably could have been taken with anything, though.

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