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Panasonic G7 Question

Started Jan 2, 2019 | Discussions
jbent1 Regular Member • Posts: 101
Panasonic G7 Question

HNY everyone!

Just a Quick question. The G7 with standard lens and 45-150 zoom is currently selling for $599 Canadian. Multiply by 0.7 for a rough US $ comparison and you will see it is a good deal. The G85 is $1000 with the 12-60 lens. I have that lens, a 20/1.7,  42.5, 60mm Oly and 70-300mm Oly. I had the G5 with the original 14-140 and the 20mm.

Ok all that is leading to the question. I never knowingly experienced shutter shock with the G 5 and two original lenses. I know it varied with the lens model. With the G7 am I likely to experience SS with one or more of the lenses I now have such that it really would show in pics? Using the mechanical shutter of course. i am having a hard time justifying a G85 otherwise.

One gratuitous question please. The Oly 75-300 is a sharp lens if I can hold it steady enough at 300mm. Surprised how sharp it can be actually. I suspect shake would be a greater problem on the G7. Agreed? Thanks for any response encouraging or otherwise.

Jeff

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Mark Kaprielian
Mark Kaprielian Regular Member • Posts: 400
Re: Panasonic G7 Question
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Hi

I have the G7 but I got the G85 as well when it came out primarily because it has in-body IS.  Huge difference in Video stability over just lens IS.   Also nice is that mechanical shutter is much quieter

If you search you will find articles/posts that compare the two cameras.

Remember that a most primes don't have built in IS.

I think that in-body IS is sufficient justification, at least it was/is for me.

Mark

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hindesite Veteran Member • Posts: 4,893
Re: Panasonic G7 Question

jbent1 wrote:

One gratuitous question please. The Oly 75-300 is a sharp lens if I can hold it steady enough at 300mm. Surprised how sharp it can be actually. I suspect shake would be a greater problem on the G7. Agreed?

No, the greater problem is most likely shutter shock, which of course once you are aware of, you can usually work around. The G7 is pretty bad in this respect, even at high shutter speeds.

Still love the camera, though

It doesn't have IBIS, which is a big plus for me.

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alcelc
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jbent1 wrote:

HNY everyone!

Just a Quick question. The G7 with standard lens and 45-150 zoom is currently selling for $599 Canadian. Multiply by 0.7 for a rough US $ comparison and you will see it is a good deal. The G85 is $1000 with the 12-60 lens. I have that lens, a 20/1.7, 42.5, 60mm Oly and 70-300mm Oly. I had the G5 with the original 14-140 and the 20mm.

Ok all that is leading to the question. I never knowingly experienced shutter shock with the G 5 and two original lenses. I know it varied with the lens model. With the G7 am I likely to experience SS with one or more of the lenses I now have such that it really would show in pics? Using the mechanical shutter of course. i am having a hard time justifying a G85 otherwise.

One gratuitous question please. The Oly 75-300 is a sharp lens if I can hold it steady enough at 300mm. Surprised how sharp it can be actually. I suspect shake would be a greater problem on the G7. Agreed? Thanks for any response encouraging or otherwise.

Jeff

I suppose when we are comparing G7 vs G85, it is not only on shutter shock.

Before all I suppose you know that G7 is being the last batch of Pany cameras using the older standard of hardware: fixed non IBIS sensor so is 100% lens IS reliance, has AA filter (IIRC), the noisy mechanical shutter, no Dual IS...

After GX85, except for the entry class GF, basically Pany rewrites the hardware standard for its MILCs. As members before me, IBIS = stabilized any lens, Dual IS = 1~2 stops more effective IS than OIS alone, and best of all very effective IBIS for video (including 4K). Removal of AA filter making SOOC image sharper (I compare it between GX7 and GX85), improved jpg engine, improved long exposure noise (better heat dispersing power because floating IBIS sensor use a bigger heat sink)...

The much quieter new electromagnetic shutter (TBH, not 100% shutter shock eliminate) is only one of the improvement over G7.

As I don't use G for quite a long time, not sure what are the improvement along the G line except for the major hardware difference above. I am very sure if you compare close there must be some newer features of G85 not supported by G7.

To me, mirrorless is a technology driven product and largely our upgrade is for the more powerful, more capable hardware/software. Hence, looking back to the old generation model might not be advisable. G7 is a fine camera but if money is not a matter, G85 might worth the money.

A recent thread from one who upgrade from G7 to G85:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/62102832

Finally about shutter shock. Since it is not in any mean of blurry image and so, the thinking of not using the best optic, resolution power of the camera or other reasons like noise etc might so be neglected/forgiven by many people. Indeed if you look at 2 images from your camera, one from m-shutter and one for e-shutter, and if you feel that one from e-shutter is sharper than the one from m-shutter, there is shutter shock.

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