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Awesome Northrup videos!

Started Oct 26, 2018 | Discussions
JakeJY Veteran Member • Posts: 5,442
Re: Because it pours more $$ in Roger's pockets
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Zvonimir Tosic wrote:

whumber wrote:

He's completely correct on both of those counts. Roger over at LensRentals has written articles about the same topics with the same conclusions.

Any damaged lens means profit for Roger.

Then, shooting with a naked, large front element, is equal to going out in full sunshine and wind without any eye protection and opening eyes as wide as possible to be beaten by the aforementioned.

It is as stupid as it gets.

Tony perhaps has money to burn a forest coming from clicks of the one million losers, but not much common sense to lit even a candle.

He also brags about shooting full sun at mid day, to achieve a need to restore 10 stops of information from contrasts, despite that that practice with any larger lens literally cooks the insides of the camera, and can quickly permanently damage the sensor.

People are mostly listening to absolute doodles when it comes to photography. Therefore you deserve to become like them.

Instead of doing what those nincompoops are suggesting, why don't you outclass them – buy a new camera and a new lens, and then play eggs tapping with them against rocks, straightaway.

Be Tony's Tony, and Roger's Roger.

Here's what Roger actually said:

"Evaluate the cost to benefit ratio of using a UV filter. Don’t use a $100 filter to protect a $100 front element.
Evaluate the situation. If you are in a high-risk environment, use a filter to maximize your protection.
Never, ever use a cheap $30 filter unless you don’t care about image quality."

https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2016/12/front-element-lens-protection-revisited/

He largely did not use UV filters back in the day because front elements didn't cost much to replace compared to the cost of the UV filter, but for newer lenses that cost more to replace, he may use them. For private use, adding a filter or not depends largely on if you intend on reselling the lens.

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briantrying Regular Member • Posts: 292
Re: Awesome Northrup videos!
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hindesite wrote:

GH5, GH4 and G7 (also applies to G85 and others generally):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6-ezqIyMv8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV12EHcmXNc

and for those on the other side (EM-5, EM-10):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na5D0VFI1AQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjbIiflFsD0

Full playlist of camera tutorials here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvY4q91a4a4&list=PLwIVS3_dKVpsvHpUm-K_x5ArD-HxjjjjM

These guys produce professional content and they make this free. And while many here despise the Northrups and claim they just want YouTube views, get with the program - this is how they make their living.

Enjoy, you will almost certainly learn something.

If they knew how to use them they wouldn`t moan so much about them!

Brian

TN Args
TN Args Forum Pro • Posts: 10,687
Re: Awesome Northrup videos!
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hindesite wrote:

NCV wrote:

Life is too short to watch clickbait videos. Please give us a precis so as we do not have to watch them.

I much prefer the written word, it is much easier to skip the boring bits.

Maybe, just maybe, instead of expecting me to give you a precis of something you apparently have zero interest in, you could contribute to the thread by linking to "written word" articles that cover the same detail as a 2 hr video?

Thanks, I imagine that would be a big help for others of your disposition.

IMNHO the Northrups deserve every click they get; and these are most definitely NOT clickbait (which is where the title, description or thumbnail is misleading about the content).

The OED defines clickbait as "(on the Internet) content whose main purpose is to attract attention and encourage visitors to click on a link to a particular web page".

It does NOT refer to "title, description or thumbnail" and it DOES refer to "content".

Many Northrup videos certainly apply, because they often want to get involved in internet debates on cameras, or even make statements that become the source of internet debates.

If they just stuck to uncontroversial tutorials on using one's own cameras, then fine.

These are thoughtfully and professionally presented and instructive videos that are among the best of their genre (and are free).

Videos, ugh. I agree with NCV.

The trouble with typical blogger videos like the Northrups is that they are so unprofessional. They are the equivalent of a technical content writer who provides no TOC and no index, no chapters, no paragraph breaks and no subtitles and no subheadings. Every technical writer who does that will be dismissed by the audience in short order.

It's not about "I prefer written word, you prefer video". Any professional online video production with technical content needs an associated TOC with headings and subheadings, with live links direct to each heading and subheading. As a minimum.

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JakeJY Veteran Member • Posts: 5,442
Re: Awesome Northrup videos!

TN Args wrote:

hindesite wrote:

NCV wrote:

Life is too short to watch clickbait videos. Please give us a precis so as we do not have to watch them.

I much prefer the written word, it is much easier to skip the boring bits.

Maybe, just maybe, instead of expecting me to give you a precis of something you apparently have zero interest in, you could contribute to the thread by linking to "written word" articles that cover the same detail as a 2 hr video?

Thanks, I imagine that would be a big help for others of your disposition.

IMNHO the Northrups deserve every click they get; and these are most definitely NOT clickbait (which is where the title, description or thumbnail is misleading about the content).

The OED defines clickbait as "(on the Internet) content whose main purpose is to attract attention and encourage visitors to click on a link to a particular web page".

It does NOT refer to "title, description or thumbnail" and it DOES refer to "content".

Many Northrup videos certainly apply, because they often want to get involved in internet debates on cameras, or even make statements that become the source of internet debates.

If they just stuck to uncontroversial tutorials on using one's own cameras, then fine.

These are thoughtfully and professionally presented and instructive videos that are among the best of their genre (and are free).

Videos, ugh. I agree with NCV.

The trouble with typical blogger videos like the Northrups is that they are so unprofessional. They are the equivalent of a technical content writer who provides no TOC and no index, no chapters, no paragraph breaks and no subtitles and no subheadings. Every technical writer who does that will be dismissed by the audience in short order.

It's not about "I prefer written word, you prefer video". Any professional online video production with technical content needs an associated TOC with headings and subheadings, with live links direct to each heading and subheading. As a minimum.

To be fair someone pointed out upthread that they do have an index in most of their tutorial videos if you click to show the description.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61844879

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OP hindesite Veteran Member • Posts: 4,893
Re: Awesome Northrup videos!

ata3001 wrote:

Tony Northrup has no credibility! In one of his recent videos, he talks trash about UV/lens protection filters & how these cheap "plastic" filters hurt image quality. First of all, does anyone actually make plastic filters?

You need to get out more. Plastic filters are not uncommon especially in large sizes. I have some plastic ND filters - for wide lenses they are OK-ish but useless for telephoto, and they definitively do degrade image quality.

Then in the same video, he takes a 50mm lens & totally destroys the front element by scratching it up then shoots with it, commenting on how the scratches really haven't hurt the image quality. He then goes on to say that buying used lenses with scratched front glass can be quite a bargain.

Lens rentals did a demo of a severely damaged lens that in many conditions performed almost perfectly.

The degradation form scratches and from a filter are quite different.

This is the same guy who started off in this same video stating to NOT use UV/lens protection filters because they hurt image quality.

How can he have any credibility when he puts out videos like this?

Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcZkCnPs45s&index=17&list=PLwIVS3_dKVpsyZJ-BhsCHwTj8Y6PEAurc

Bang on the money in my experience. There have been examples of stacking instead of using ND filters posted to this very forum.

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OP hindesite Veteran Member • Posts: 4,893
Re: Is that this guy?

nevada5 wrote:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61864770

Cause, the word "awesome" never came to mind.

That would be because it specifically wasn't included in my list of awesome videos.

Perhaps you could make some informed comment about the videos I listed instead of the most recent video to distract you?

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Remove this post please
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No text.

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TN Args
TN Args Forum Pro • Posts: 10,687
Re: Awesome Northrup videos!

JakeJY wrote:

TN Args wrote:

hindesite wrote:

NCV wrote:

Life is too short to watch clickbait videos. Please give us a precis so as we do not have to watch them.

I much prefer the written word, it is much easier to skip the boring bits.

Maybe, just maybe, instead of expecting me to give you a precis of something you apparently have zero interest in, you could contribute to the thread by linking to "written word" articles that cover the same detail as a 2 hr video?

Thanks, I imagine that would be a big help for others of your disposition.

IMNHO the Northrups deserve every click they get; and these are most definitely NOT clickbait (which is where the title, description or thumbnail is misleading about the content).

The OED defines clickbait as "(on the Internet) content whose main purpose is to attract attention and encourage visitors to click on a link to a particular web page".

It does NOT refer to "title, description or thumbnail" and it DOES refer to "content".

Many Northrup videos certainly apply, because they often want to get involved in internet debates on cameras, or even make statements that become the source of internet debates.

If they just stuck to uncontroversial tutorials on using one's own cameras, then fine.

These are thoughtfully and professionally presented and instructive videos that are among the best of their genre (and are free).

Videos, ugh. I agree with NCV.

The trouble with typical blogger videos like the Northrups is that they are so unprofessional. They are the equivalent of a technical content writer who provides no TOC and no index, no chapters, no paragraph breaks and no subtitles and no subheadings. Every technical writer who does that will be dismissed by the audience in short order.

It's not about "I prefer written word, you prefer video". Any professional online video production with technical content needs an associated TOC with headings and subheadings, with live links direct to each heading and subheading. As a minimum.

To be fair someone pointed out upthread that they do have an index in most of their tutorial videos if you click to show the description.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61844879

To be fair I did say that the tutorials are fine. It's the rest, the majority.

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OP hindesite Veteran Member • Posts: 4,893
@rjensen11:
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I would respectfully ask that you delete or modify your post, since it has no bearing on the topic under discussion.

Maybe you could start another thread?

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nevada5
nevada5 Forum Pro • Posts: 15,569
Re: Is that this guy?
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hindesite wrote:

nevada5 wrote:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61864770

Cause, the word "awesome" never came to mind.

That would be because it specifically wasn't included in my list of awesome videos.

Perhaps you could make some informed comment about the videos I listed instead of the most recent video to distract you?

"Awesome Northrup videos"

can mean - A) videos by awesome Northrup, or B) awesome videos by Northrup.

I picked "A".   Sounds like you're saying I chose poorly.  That happens.

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OP hindesite Veteran Member • Posts: 4,893
Re: Is that this guy?

nevada5 wrote:

hindesite wrote:

nevada5 wrote:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61864770

Cause, the word "awesome" never came to mind.

That would be because it specifically wasn't included in my list of awesome videos.

Perhaps you could make some informed comment about the videos I listed instead of the most recent video to distract you?

"Awesome Northrup videos"

can mean - A) videos by awesome Northrup, or B) awesome videos by Northrup.

I picked "A". Sounds like you're saying I chose poorly. That happens.

Not sure how that qualifies as informed comment, but never mind, plenty of others were able to contribute.

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RCicala
RCicala Contributing Member • Posts: 820
Re: Because it pours more $$ in Roger's pockets
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Zvonimir Tosic wrote:

Any damaged lens means profit for Roger.

Damn! It seems I must have overlooked a highly-profitable method to make money by damaging my gear. 

Russel_Sprouts Regular Member • Posts: 302
Re: Awesome Northrup videos!

reads like baseless, or unwarranted, criticism

ata3001 wrote:

talks trash about UV/lens protection filters & how these cheap "plastic" filters hurt image quality. First of all, does anyone actually make plastic filters?

Then in the same video, he takes a 50mm lens & totally destroys the front element by scratching it up then shoots with it, commenting on how the scratches really haven't hurt the image quality. He then goes on to say that buying used lenses with scratched front glass can be quite a bargain.

Yes, plastic filters exist (along with plenty one-star amazon user reviews from folks disappointed at how easily scratched). Further, "these" is your description. In the context of the video presentation, the caveat regarding (general) scratch-prone plastic filters needs to be heard (in my opinion) and it stands separate from the "tip" regarding UV filters.

A more reasonable criticism, perhaps not relevant to this particular video, might be the perpetuated myth re "circulating polarator filters". Greatest thing since sliced bread, gotta have one, various sizes to fit each of your lenses, handy affiliate marketing links provided, below. The more responsible, more noble, approach would be to explain to members of their channel's diverse audience when, and why, a use of circular polarizing filter is preferable to use of an available-for-cheap vintage HMC Hoya linear polarizer.

The demonstration, scratching then testing a 50mm lens, was self-evident. The narrated comments seem logical, and the point "can be quite a bargain" certainly has merit.

whumber
whumber Veteran Member • Posts: 4,371
Re: Because it pours more $$ in Roger's pockets
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RCicala wrote:

Zvonimir Tosic wrote:

Any damaged lens means profit for Roger.

Damn! It seems I must have overlooked a highly-profitable method to make money by damaging my gear.

My apologies for dragging you into this.

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