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Isabel Cutler
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Has anyone used these lenses on the A7iii...

Canon 70-200 f/4L (non is)

Canon 300mm F/4L IS

I'm assuming they would have no electronic communication with the camera and focus would be manual.

I'd like to have more reach than 75mm to shoot birds and squirrels on my deck and the alternatives I see are expensive and heavy, so I might as well try what I have - though I don't have high hopes.

I've had the Canon 100-400 which I sold because it was too heavy...and still have the Olympus 100-400 for micro43 which I rarely use because it's heavy and its maximum aperture at full zoom is f/6.3.  Great lens optically, however.  Unfortunately can't be used on the A7iii!  Maybe I should sell it to partially fund a longer Sony lens?

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Re: Has anyone used these lenses on the A7iii...

Isabel Cutler wrote:

Canon 70-200 f/4L (non is)

Canon 300mm F/4L IS

I'm assuming they would have no electronic communication with the camera and focus would be manual.

I'd like to have more reach than 75mm to shoot birds and squirrels on my deck and the alternatives I see are expensive and heavy, so I might as well try what I have - though I don't have high hopes.

I've had the Canon 100-400 which I sold because it was too heavy...and still have the Olympus 100-400 for micro43 which I rarely use because it's heavy and its maximum aperture at full zoom is f/6.3. Great lens optically, however. Unfortunately can't be used on the A7iii! Maybe I should sell it to partially fund a longer Sony lens?

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Isabel , there are a couple of adapters that support AF with Canon EF lenses such as the metabones and the Sigma MC11. I have no experience with them but adapted Canon lenses are quite popular in the forum and I am sure you will get some feedback

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I've used the 300/4 IS on an A7R2 with a Metabones IV adapter. It focusses OK in SAF but the IQ isn't so good. That's rather a puzzle because it is fine on an EM1.1.

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I've used the 300/4 IS on an A7R2 with a Metabones IV adapter. It focusses OK in SAF but the IQ isn't so good. That's rather a puzzle because it is fine on an EM1.1.

That is weird Andrew you would assume that the m43 camera with higher pixel density would have been more difficult , the wonders and mystery's of digital

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James Stirling wrote:

ahaslett wrote:

I've used the 300/4 IS on an A7R2 with a Metabones IV adapter. It focusses OK in SAF but the IQ isn't so good. That's rather a puzzle because it is fine on an EM1.1.

That is weird Andrew you would assume that the m43 camera with higher pixel density would have been more difficult , the wonders and mystery's of digital

Jim

Well the EF 300/4 doesn't match an Olympus 300/4 for IQ but using MFT gets more pixels than cropping the A7R2.

You would expect the IQ to be better on an FF sensor but there seems to be some kind of soft edges to bright spots.  The Samyang 135/2 definitely looks better on FF than MFT.

I don't really use the 300/4 on FF, so maybe it was just a particular subject.

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ahaslett wrote:

James Stirling wrote:

ahaslett wrote:

I've used the 300/4 IS on an A7R2 with a Metabones IV adapter. It focusses OK in SAF but the IQ isn't so good. That's rather a puzzle because it is fine on an EM1.1.

That is weird Andrew you would assume that the m43 camera with higher pixel density would have been more difficult , the wonders and mystery's of digital

Jim

Well the EF 300/4 doesn't match an Olympus 300/4 for IQ but using MFT gets more pixels than cropping the A7R2.

I would be very surprised if the Canon could match the Olympus The Oly is an excellent lump of glass. Funny over on the Nikon Z forum I had started a thread on what Canon lenses folk would consider adapting to the Nikon now that adapters or on the road from Kippon. The Canon TSE lenses always appealed and can be had a lot cheaper than the new 19mm Nikon PC lens, the MP-E 65 also got some interest.

You would expect the IQ to be better on an FF sensor but there seems to be some kind of soft edges to bright spots. The Samyang 135/2 definitely looks better on FF than MFT.

I don't really use the 300/4 on FF, so maybe it was just a particular subject.

Andrew

That Samyang 135mm is an amazing bit of kit for the price .I was going to go for the Batis 135mm for AF and size but the price you can pick up the Samyang for is excellent and I enjoy manual focus , not that I would be using it for anything too fast moving. I have been very happy with the wee Samyang 35mm F/2.8. So cheap and heavy seems the most likely way I will go

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Re: Has anyone used these lenses on the A7iii...

James Stirling wrote:

ahaslett wrote:

James Stirling wrote:

ahaslett wrote:

I've used the 300/4 IS on an A7R2 with a Metabones IV adapter. It focusses OK in SAF but the IQ isn't so good. That's rather a puzzle because it is fine on an EM1.1.

That is weird Andrew you would assume that the m43 camera with higher pixel density would have been more difficult , the wonders and mystery's of digital

Jim

Well the EF 300/4 doesn't match an Olympus 300/4 for IQ but using MFT gets more pixels than cropping the A7R2.

I would be very surprised if the Canon could match the Olympus The Oly is an excellent lump of glass. Funny over on the Nikon Z forum I had started a thread on what Canon lenses folk would consider adapting to the Nikon now that adapters or on the road from Kippon. The Canon TSE lenses always appealed and can be had a lot cheaper than the new 19mm Nikon PC lens, the MP-E 65 also got some interest.

You would expect the IQ to be better on an FF sensor but there seems to be some kind of soft edges to bright spots. The Samyang 135/2 definitely looks better on FF than MFT.

I don't really use the 300/4 on FF, so maybe it was just a particular subject.

Andrew

That Samyang 135mm is an amazing bit of kit for the price .I was going to go for the Batis 135mm for AF and size but the price you can pick up the Samyang for is excellent and I enjoy manual focus , not that I would be using it for anything too fast moving. I have been very happy with the wee Samyang 35mm F/2.8. So cheap and heavy seems the most likely way I will go

It was a used 24mm TSE II that got me to buy a very used A7R and the MBIV.

You need a tripod to MF an 135/2 anywhere near wide open. The Samyang has quite a short MFD but I can't hold the body still enough to shoot anything close.

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Canon 70-200 4.0 non is is a gret lens on Sony ARiii.

I fit it with  Sigma mc-11 and it works great.

Most of the times better than th native equivalent.

Give it a try and I’m sure you will not be disappointed.

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Re: Has anyone used these lenses on the A7iii...

ahaslett wrote:

James Stirling wrote:

ahaslett wrote:

James Stirling wrote:

ahaslett wrote:

I've used the 300/4 IS on an A7R2 with a Metabones IV adapter. It focusses OK in SAF but the IQ isn't so good. That's rather a puzzle because it is fine on an EM1.1.

That is weird Andrew you would assume that the m43 camera with higher pixel density would have been more difficult , the wonders and mystery's of digital

Jim

Well the EF 300/4 doesn't match an Olympus 300/4 for IQ but using MFT gets more pixels than cropping the A7R2.

I would be very surprised if the Canon could match the Olympus The Oly is an excellent lump of glass. Funny over on the Nikon Z forum I had started a thread on what Canon lenses folk would consider adapting to the Nikon now that adapters or on the road from Kippon. The Canon TSE lenses always appealed and can be had a lot cheaper than the new 19mm Nikon PC lens, the MP-E 65 also got some interest.

You would expect the IQ to be better on an FF sensor but there seems to be some kind of soft edges to bright spots. The Samyang 135/2 definitely looks better on FF than MFT.

I don't really use the 300/4 on FF, so maybe it was just a particular subject.

Andrew

That Samyang 135mm is an amazing bit of kit for the price .I was going to go for the Batis 135mm for AF and size but the price you can pick up the Samyang for is excellent and I enjoy manual focus , not that I would be using it for anything too fast moving. I have been very happy with the wee Samyang 35mm F/2.8. So cheap and heavy seems the most likely way I will go

It was a used 24mm TSE II that got me to buy a very used A7R and the MBIV.

Canon's TSE lenses in the past were always a bit better than Nikon's offerings though I think the new rather pricey { its north of £3000 } 19mm PC is state of the art.

You need a tripod to MF a 135/2 anywhere near wide open. The Samyang has quite a short MFD but I can't hold the body still enough to shoot anything close.

Andrew

Andrew, When you see just how sharp the Samyang is it is amazing that they can sell it at that price point .

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kelly15 wrote:

Canon 70-200 4.0 non is is a gret lens on Sony ARiii.

I fit it with Sigma mc-11 and it works great.

Most of the times better than th native equivalent.

Give it a try and I’m sure you will not be disappointed.

I am certain that the Metabones IV or V will work, too.

Others have used this lens on the older Sony A7's, too.

https://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-canon-ef-70-200m-4-0l-usm/

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3972375

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61240729

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4130119

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3898342

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If you are ok with manual focus, do yourself a huge favor and get the Canon FD 80-200 f/4 L.

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ahaslett wrote:

I've used the 300/4 IS on an A7R2 with a Metabones IV adapter. It focusses OK in SAF but the IQ isn't so good. That's rather a puzzle because it is fine on an EM1.1.

I think I read that to work with the Metabones the lens had to be made after 2006 and mine is older than that.  Mine arrived in May of 2006!

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Isabel Cutler wrote:

ahaslett wrote:

I've used the 300/4 IS on an A7R2 with a Metabones IV adapter. It focusses OK in SAF but the IQ isn't so good. That's rather a puzzle because it is fine on an EM1.1.

I think I read that to work with the Metabones the lens had to be made after 2006 and mine is older than that. Mine arrived in May of 2006!

Isabel

My CANON EF 85MM/F1.8 USM was introduced in 1992 but still works beautifully with Metabones IV/A7.

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captura wrote:

Isabel Cutler wrote:

ahaslett wrote:

I've used the 300/4 IS on an A7R2 with a Metabones IV adapter. It focusses OK in SAF but the IQ isn't so good. That's rather a puzzle because it is fine on an EM1.1.

I think I read that to work with the Metabones the lens had to be made after 2006 and mine is older than that. Mine arrived in May of 2006!

Isabel

My CANON EF 85MM/F1.8 USM was introduced in 1992 but still works beautifully with Metabones IV/A7.

I wish I hadn't bought Canon EFS lenses - don't believe those can be use with the A7iii....or can they be?  (So much to learn!)

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Re: Thanks for the feedback, Jim (nt)

James Stirling wrote:

Isabel Cutler wrote:

Canon 70-200 f/4L (non is)

Canon 300mm F/4L IS

I'm assuming they would have no electronic communication with the camera and focus would be manual.

I'd like to have more reach than 75mm to shoot birds and squirrels on my deck and the alternatives I see are expensive and heavy, so I might as well try what I have - though I don't have high hopes.

I've had the Canon 100-400 which I sold because it was too heavy...and still have the Olympus 100-400 for micro43 which I rarely use because it's heavy and its maximum aperture at full zoom is f/6.3. Great lens optically, however. Unfortunately can't be used on the A7iii! Maybe I should sell it to partially fund a longer Sony lens?

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Isabel , there are a couple of adapters that support AF with Canon EF lenses such as the metabones and the Sigma MC11. I have no experience with them but adapted Canon lenses are quite popular in the forum and I am sure you will get some feedback

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ahaslett wrote:

I've used the 300/4 IS on an A7R2 with a Metabones IV adapter. It focusses OK in SAF but the IQ isn't so good. That's rather a puzzle because it is fine on an EM1.1.

That's a bummer, but I suspect the 300 would feel awfully unbalanced on the A7iii.

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Re: This is very encouraging!

kelly15 wrote:

Canon 70-200 4.0 non is is a gret lens on Sony ARiii.

I fit it with Sigma mc-11 and it works great.

Most of the times better than th native equivalent.

Give it a try and I’m sure you will not be disappointed.

200mm is a much better reach than the 75mm I have with the Tamron 28-75!

I'll definitely look into the MC-11.

Thanks.

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Tuloom wrote:

If you are ok with manual focus, do yourself a huge favor and get the Canon FD 80-200 f/4 L.

Assuming I'd have to buy this used.

Would peaking work with it?

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Isabel Cutler wrote:

Canon 70-200 f/4L (non is)

Canon 300mm F/4L IS

I'm assuming they would have no electronic communication with the camera and focus would be manual.

Why you have such assumption? Guess you don't pay much attention in DPR news, articles and forums EF-E adapters have been around for several years with AF/AE support to most modern Canon, Sigma or Tamron EF-mount lenses.

Yes these two EF lenses do AF/AE with Metabones IV/V or Sigma MC-11 adapters at least and also many other EF-E adapters. That is good news.

I'd like to have more reach than 75mm to shoot birds and squirrels on my deck and the alternatives I see are expensive and heavy, so I might as well try what I have - though I don't have high hopes.

The bad news is that AF-S is not very fast, sometime hung especially in low light and at 200~300mm FL. AF-C tracking doesn't work well. For those purposes in action, sport, wildlife AF-C tracking, you are better to get native FE lenses.

I've had the Canon 100-400 which I sold because it was too heavy...and still have the Olympus 100-400 for micro43 which I rarely use because it's heavy and its maximum aperture at full zoom is f/6.3. Great lens optically, however. Unfortunately can't be used on the A7iii! Maybe I should sell it to partially fund a longer Sony lens?

I adapted EF 100-400L IS II on A7r II via MC-11 in a zoo (bottom half set of photos in the album) under AF-S, you see it works well. Note: MC-11 reports all non Sigma lenses as DT-xxxx lens even they don't exist.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/55485085@N04/albums/72157684431079244/page2

I replaced with FE 100-400 GM that is at complete different level under AF-C tracking. And it's about 180g lighter, quite noticeable.

There are also FE 70-200 G/4.0 OSS, FE 70-200 GM/2.8 OSS, FE 70-300 G/4.5-5.6 OSS.

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Re: Great to know!...

Isabel Cutler wrote:

captura wrote:

Isabel Cutler wrote:

ahaslett wrote:

I've used the 300/4 IS on an A7R2 with a Metabones IV adapter. It focusses OK in SAF but the IQ isn't so good. That's rather a puzzle because it is fine on an EM1.1.

I think I read that to work with the Metabones the lens had to be made after 2006 and mine is older than that. Mine arrived in May of 2006!

Isabel

My CANON EF 85MM/F1.8 USM was introduced in 1992 but still works beautifully with Metabones IV/A7.

I wish I hadn't bought Canon EFS lenses - don't believe those can be use with the A7iii....or can they be? (So much to learn!)

Isabel

I have the 24 EFS pancake, which works fine, in crop mode.

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