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Should Olympus start a new f/2.8 prime lineup?

Started Oct 19, 2018 | Discussions
(unknown member) Veteran Member • Posts: 7,274
Should Olympus start a new f/2.8 prime lineup?
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Now most of the Olympus primes are f/1.8 ones in their Premium line. But they had a 25mm f/2.8 in their 4/3 system and 17mm f/2.8 in m4/3. But both are gone.

Should Olympus revive that f/2.8 line with something new, special for cheaper prices?

9mm f/4

17mm f/2.8

25mm f/2.8

75mm f/2.8

120mm f/4 (Macro?)

The 9mm, 17mm and 25mm in pancake designs, and 75mm to be made as small as possible. The 120mm f/4 macro in quality of 60mm Macro.

If one could get a 17mm and 25mm f/2.8 for lets say 200€ each, would it be worth to consider new users those, instead their f/1.8 Premium line that are 1.3 stops faster?

Considering that 17mm and 25mm f/1.8  models costs like 350€. Being pancake models without any fancy clutches etc, it would be nice cheap set to buy someone to start with. Ie E-PL9 + 17mm and 25mm for lower price.

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Searching Veteran Member • Posts: 3,964
Re: Should Olympus start a new f/2.8 prime lineup?
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Might be good for Daleeight.  I personally wouldn't want any of them and I think it would be a waste of Olympus resources.

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X_Holger Regular Member • Posts: 375
Re: Should Olympus start a new f/2.8 prime lineup?
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There are many compact zoom lenses for mFT that offer F2.8

I can't see any sense in making an additional line of F2.8 primes.

There are already many F2.0-F1.7 prime lenses available that are small and not expensive.

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john isaacs Veteran Member • Posts: 8,444
Re: Should Olympus start a new f/2.8 prime lineup?
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Tommi K1 wrote:

Now most of the Olympus primes are f/1.8 ones in their Premium line. But they had a 25mm f/2.8 in their 4/3 system and 17mm f/2.8 in m4/3. But both are gone.

Should Olympus revive that f/2.8 line with something new, special for cheaper prices?

9mm f/4

17mm f/2.8

25mm f/2.8

75mm f/2.8

120mm f/4 (Macro?)

The 9mm, 17mm and 25mm in pancake designs, and 75mm to be made as small as possible. The 120mm f/4 macro in quality of 60mm Macro.

If one could get a 17mm and 25mm f/2.8 for lets say 200€ each, would it be worth to consider new users those, instead their f/1.8 Premium line that are 1.3 stops faster?

Considering that 17mm and 25mm f/1.8 models costs like 350€. Being pancake models without any fancy clutches etc, it would be nice cheap set to buy someone to start with. Ie E-PL9 + 17mm and 25mm for lower price.

I would be interested in a 9mm f/2.8 and 120mm f/2.8; in keeping with the f/2.8 focus of this post.

Skeeterbytes Forum Pro • Posts: 23,186
Re: Should Olympus start a new f/2.8 prime lineup?
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The 1.8s are good-to-great, small and (mostly) affordable. So, nope.

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photofan1986 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,841
Re: Should Olympus start a new f/2.8 prime lineup?
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No. 2.8 is to slow for m43 (for a prime).

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DiffractionLtd
DiffractionLtd Senior Member • Posts: 2,836
Re: Should Olympus start a new f/2.8 prime lineup?

Pentax did it.  Why not Olympus?

Rmark
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Re: Should Olympus start a new f/2.8 prime lineup?

Also works for me.

9mm f2.8 would be dandy

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Paulmorgan Veteran Member • Posts: 9,499
Re: Should Olympus start a new f/2.8 prime lineup?
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photofan1986 wrote:

No. 2.8 is to slow for m43 (for a prime).

Jeez how can f2.8 be to slow for any format let alone m4/3.

NowHearThis
NowHearThis Veteran Member • Posts: 4,616
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Nope.  Just make the existing 1.8s (and the 12/2) a bit cheaper.

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Sergey Borachev Veteran Member • Posts: 5,338
Re: Should Olympus start a new f/2.8 prime lineup?
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Only for 8mm to 14mm and only if they are very high quality and sharp from max.

There are many average quality lenses that Olympus should re-do to get better quality and/or add WR, e.g. 12mm, 17mm f/1.8 and f/2.8, 9-16mm, 14-42mm EZ, and 12-50mm.

daleeight Veteran Member • Posts: 3,199
Re: Should Olympus start a new f/2.8 prime lineup?
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Searching wrote:

Might be good for Daleeight. I personally wouldn't want any of them and I think it would be a waste of Olympus resources.

Why would I want them? No reason for them unless they are all $100 to $200.

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rodriguezPhoto Veteran Member • Posts: 4,261
Re: Should Olympus start a new f/2.8 prime lineup?
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Tommi K1 wrote:

Now most of the Olympus primes are f/1.8 ones in their Premium line. But they had a 25mm f/2.8 in their 4/3 system and 17mm f/2.8 in m4/3. But both are gone.

Should Olympus revive that f/2.8 line with something new, special for cheaper prices?

9mm f/4

17mm f/2.8

25mm f/2.8

75mm f/2.8

120mm f/4 (Macro?)

The 9mm, 17mm and 25mm in pancake designs, and 75mm to be made as small as possible. The 120mm f/4 macro in quality of 60mm Macro.

If one could get a 17mm and 25mm f/2.8 for lets say 200€ each, would it be worth to consider new users those, instead their f/1.8 Premium line that are 1.3 stops faster?

Considering that 17mm and 25mm f/1.8 models costs like 350€. Being pancake models without any fancy clutches etc, it would be nice cheap set to buy someone to start with. Ie E-PL9 + 17mm and 25mm for lower price.

Sigma offers three f2.8 lenses close to the specs of some in the list above:

https://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=sigma_a_m_19_2p8&products=sigma_a_m_30_2p8&products=sigma_a_m_60_2p8

All are in the neighborhood of $200 each and less if purchased refurbished or on sale.

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eques Veteran Member • Posts: 4,115
No!!

A new weather sealed F1,8 lineup with close focus (1:3) is my long time wish (as previously stated).

The 17-25mm lenses could also be pancake(ish) size, why not?

Peter

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eques Veteran Member • Posts: 4,115
Pentax?
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DiffractionLtd wrote:

Pentax did it.

And they are thriving, right?

Peter

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Jouko Senior Member • Posts: 1,985
No...

There are zooms at F2.8 - F3.5, and some Sigma primes... Compact, even pancake size. Why carry a lot of primes if you can do the shot with a zoom at F2.8, equal IQ?

Better to go to F1.4 - F2 - still compact, but more choices for low light and indoor photography.

The F1.2 lenses are good for that, I know, but also heavy and expensive for casual users and travel lenses. Pro stuff, yes, very much.

Only reasonable places for F2.8 lenses are in the wide end and tele-part of the line-up - for compactness. And I am not talking about the long tele-part.

So, how about weather-sealed...

F2.8 9mm

F2 10mm

F2 12mm mkII

F1.4-2 14mm

F1.4 17mm mkII

F2 20mm

F1.4 25mm

F1.4 45mm

F1.4 65mm

F2 100mm

f2.8 135mm

But what I really would like to see... the long tele-zoom. A "compact" 100-300 F4 would be perfect, but a longer F5.6 would be on my for Santa-list.

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Why bother
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We have a set of super 2.8 zooms from both Panasonic and Olympus that make 2.8 primes totally redundant.

End of story.

jaeae Regular Member • Posts: 284
Re: Why bother

NCV wrote:

We have a set of super 2.8 zooms from both Panasonic and Olympus that make 2.8 primes totally redundant.

End of story.

Why does everybody forget pocketability?

Pen-F with Sigma 19mm 2.8? No, not pocketable. Or the 12-40 2.8? Even less.

GM5 with 17mm 2.8 - pocketable. Or Pen PL-7 with 14mm 2.5? Does fit.

Pentax isn't dead because of pancakes. More because of their AF and sticking with SLRs..

Adielle
Adielle Senior Member • Posts: 1,754
Re: Why bother

f/2.0 for a "pancake" prime is totally possible, and f/2.8 is not good enough, unless it's some special type of lens such as macro.

Okapi001 Veteran Member • Posts: 5,145
Re: Should Olympus start a new f/2.8 prime lineup?

Tommi K1 wrote:

Now most of the Olympus primes are f/1.8 ones in their Premium line. But they had a 25mm f/2.8 in their 4/3 system and 17mm f/2.8 in m4/3. But both are gone.

Should Olympus revive that f/2.8 line with something new, special for cheaper prices?

9mm f/4

17mm f/2.8

25mm f/2.8

75mm f/2.8

120mm f/4 (Macro?)

The 9mm, 17mm and 25mm in pancake designs, and 75mm to be made as small as possible. The 120mm f/4 macro in quality of 60mm Macro.

If one could get a 17mm and 25mm f/2.8 for lets say 200€ each, would it be worth to consider new users those, instead their f/1.8 Premium line that are 1.3 stops faster?

Considering that 17mm and 25mm f/1.8 models costs like 350€. Being pancake models without any fancy clutches etc, it would be nice cheap set to buy someone to start with. Ie E-PL9 + 17mm and 25mm for lower price.

Not a good idea, IMHO. Primes are for the more advanced users (others use zooms), and more advanced users use primes, because they are better (and faster) than zooms. f/2.8 is not that much faster than kit zooms, and they would not be that much smaller and cheaper than f/1.8 primes to attract advanced users.

From your list, only 9mm and 120mm macro could be interesting, because those focal lenghts currently do not exist as primes at all. But again, it would be much better if both were faster than f/4, for example f/2.8.

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