Third Party Sony Batteries

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Barry Duggan Photography
Barry Duggan Photography Senior Member • Posts: 1,168
Third Party Sony Batteries

What is everyone's opinion of third party batteries for a7 cameras?

Is it better to stick with Sonys?

I heard people recommend 'Wasabi' batteries.

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Pennyfan
Pennyfan Contributing Member • Posts: 579
Re: Third Party Sony Batteries

I'm using Wasabi battery as spare, no problem so far.

Only downside I've heard from long term user is when they get old, they don't hold charge as good as genuine batteries.

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Bob Austin Regular Member • Posts: 179
Wasabi batteries

Been using Wabasi for a number of years on the early series.  Now ordered a couple for the Sony A7iii.  Perhaps not as long a charge as Sony--but have held up just as well and a fraction of the price.

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Ceistinne Senior Member • Posts: 2,368
Re: Third Party Sony Batteries

Barry Duggan Photography wrote:

What is everyone's opinion of third party batteries for a7 cameras?

Is it better to stick with Sonys?

I heard people recommend 'Wasabi' batteries.

Barry,

I use X Pro, Duracell, Blumax  NP-FW50s and they seem to be as good as the Sony ones. The one thing I do not like about the Sony A7ii that I use as well as the A6000 is they way the batteries drain even while the cameras are turned off. So plenty spares is the only answer to that, only taking the battery out when not in use ensures no drain.

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KE_DP
KE_DP Veteran Member • Posts: 5,730
Re: Third Party Sony Batteries

In another battery thread it was mentioned that it might be better to buy 3rd party brands rather than possibly getting "fake" Sony batteries - which are all over the place apparently. But I've also heard of Wasabi batteries being faked as well believe it or not!

In any event - I have 8 FW50 batteries mostly Sony but a couple Wasabi (for RX10 and A7RII) - barely used/not used but bought to have extras for events. They all work just fine. Never once an issue - I would just charge them up before a job and grab whatever ones came out.

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dan_darkroom Regular Member • Posts: 412
Re: Third Party Sony Batteries

KE_DP wrote:

In another battery thread it was mentioned that it might be better to buy 3rd party brands rather than possibly getting "fake" Sony batteries - which are all over the place apparently. But I've also heard of Wasabi batteries being faked as well believe it or not!

That's why I prefer no-name rather than brand batteries - unless they are from an authorized source.

I just bought a Chinese A7 battery for $6.50. Will see how that lasts and how long it holds the charge. But for that price, if in doubt, one can buy simply two batteries.

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I have used tons of brands over many years and had problems with a total of two of them and had to get my money back because they weren't recognized by my camera. I've had about 50 total in the past 15 or so years, so that's about 1% failure rate. I prefer the aftermarket batteries to the Sony ones, which I use last. This is because they last hold more juice (more milliamp hours.)

I was thinking recently that I probably saved enough money to buy one body.  Here's a selection of brands I trust.  They seem to last about 2-3 years before they won't hold a charge so well anymore.

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agfa100 Contributing Member • Posts: 546
Re: Third Party Sony Batteries

Third party batteries seem to work ok, the only really bad battery I have is a "Fake Sony" the packaging was really good but the battery was much lighter then the OE or the third party batteries I had and did not last or hold a charge.

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Tim O'Connor
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Now getting a warning on my A7R3 with third party batteries.
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Noticed that after the FW update, I get a warning message when powering on warning me about using non Sony batteries.   Not sure if it is a one off, or happens at random.  I didnt happen prior to the FW update.

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asdf photographer Regular Member • Posts: 258
Re: Now getting a warning on my A7R3 with third party batteries.

The a9 also has this warning after last fw update.  Very annoying.

7 months ago, I got a couple "DSTE" batteries with charger.  Both work as well as the brand new OEM I bought at the same time.

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cpugourou Regular Member • Posts: 286
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The wasabi ones are as good as the sony.

Not sure for the other ones and they are a ton of really bad ones on the market.

Stick to wasabi.

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Re: Now getting a warning on my A7R3 with third party batteries.
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So this happens when change the file format - not consistently though.  To be honest this might have also been present on the old firmware but I just didn't notice.

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cpugourou Regular Member • Posts: 286
Re: Now getting a warning on my A7R3 with third party batteries.

Tim O'Connor wrote:

So this happens when change the file format - not consistently though. To be honest this might have also been present on the old firmware but I just didn't notice.

Typical in order to have customers afraid.

Soon, using a third party battery will avoid your warranty...

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DJohnny Contributing Member • Posts: 602
Re: Now getting a warning on my A7R3 with third party batteries.

cpugourou wrote:

Typical in order to have customers afraid.

Soon, using a third party battery will avoid your warranty...

I believe this is exactly why they have this message.  It can probably activate some software switch that lets Sony know you used 3rd party battery in the camera if if gets sent for service.

As for Sony vs 3rd party... Sony generally perform better in the long run.  I bought some Wasabi batteries for my nex5n way back in maybe 2012.  Those batteries drain faster in storage (like sometimes 5% - 10% overnight) and they seem to lose charge more rapidly as the battery levels get down.  The three Sony from the same time perform nearly as well as the ones I got with my a7s and the 4 or so I purchased from B&H.

If I were to recommend a 3rd party battery for your a7, I would go for the RAV Power batteries with dual charger.  The charger is AMAZING!  It dual charges simultaneously.  I also use an Anker portable power bank that can also plug into a wall.  This allows me to charge on the go if needed (usually churches do not have accessible receptacles) and also gives me the option of plugging in at reception time.  I cannot speak of the batteries, as I have not used a third party since 2014, but they have a bit more weight than the wasabi.  I keep them in my bag just in case, but my battery management is good enough to where I do not need more than 4 total batteries to stay above 30% for an entire wedding (photo or video).

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apersson850 Senior Member • Posts: 1,788
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Considering all reports there have been about batteries catching fire in different situations, it's not very surprising that a manufacturer of anything that's battery powered want's to make sure they don't get issues from bad batteries.

Third party, cheap, batteries without overload protection etc. is common. Now they have told you.

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cpugourou Regular Member • Posts: 286
Re: Now getting a warning on my A7R3 with third party batteries.

apersson850 wrote:

Considering all reports there have been about batteries catching fire in different situations, it's not very surprising that a manufacturer of anything that's battery powered want's to make sure they don't get issues from bad batteries.

Third party, cheap, batteries without overload protection etc. is common. Now they have told you.

This is a mythe for camera batteries.

For a cel phone to overheat because of a huge battery drainage, it can be true for 1 in a million.

For a camera battery that has a very low battery drainage, there are virtualy zero chance even with a poor quality battery. They do have a short circuit protection however.

I have never seen a camera catch fire due to battery overloading. Despite being a "bionz" whatever you name it, sony camera processors a very very very slow circuits and use 1% of the battery compared to the sensor, AF and the evf beeing the one using the most power.

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TDL2024 Regular Member • Posts: 383
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Heard too much about bad batteries or batteries that perform really poorly for the Z batteries, so I opted to go OEM for those.  Been using 3rd party with the older NPFW50's though, never had an issue.

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Kansas Ron Senior Member • Posts: 2,636
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See SonyAlphaRumors.com for article about the 2.0 firmware update and third-party batteries.

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texdpl Contributing Member • Posts: 922
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https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/new-a7iii-and-a7riii-f2-0-firmware-causes-issues-with-third-party-batteries/

Comments after this article are interesting.  I guess it is clear now that the users know a lot more about what battery to use than Sony does.

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AZheaven Senior Member • Posts: 1,437
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So we spend a good deal of money on a Sony camera, some who really cannot afford one but do anyway, like me. We sing high praises on G and GM lenses and spend the money because we want sharp photos and bokeh, no matter the cost. But buy a $78. original battery???? GOOD GOD!!!! WHY WOULD I DO THAT WHEN THERE IS ONE FOR SO MUCH LESS???!!! I would only buy an original battery. 3rd party batteries always seem to come up with issues. Even in Nikon world there are 3rd party battery issues.

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