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Depth-of-Field Preview - EOS R

Started Oct 10, 2018 | Questions
JustUs7 Senior Member • Posts: 4,327
Re: Depth-of-Field Preview - EOS R

al404 wrote:

JustUs7 wrote:

On the RP, I programmed the movie record button next to the shutter for DOF preview. I’m not using it when shooting stills otherwise. I’m also using AF-On for focus.

Thumb on focus. Quick peak at DOF if I need it. Then half press for meter and shoot. Works for me. I can find movie record without looking now, so it’s muscle memory.

I also did the same thing, reaped video recording button to DOF preview but is really annoying.

Not sure I did understand:

1) rec for DOF

2) AF lock for back button focusing

3) half press shutter for metering

is correct? I did try before the AF desynchronized from shutter button but did not really work for I may give it a try again

I think Sony approach is way better, or at list you should have an option to chose from

I also had Fuji I don't exactly remember how did it work but I guess with half press it update the DOF and keep it or maybe it was always live... not sure

I think Canon approach is kind of outdated, what you see is what you get I think is a much modern one ( at least for me )

since I really like to play with DOF in my photos is a really important aspect on how camera it works

The thing to remember is to leave it in Servo if using BBF.  Not really any point to single shot. If I want single shot, I just focus once and take my thumb off the button.

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Sir_Peter New Member • Posts: 7
Re: Depth-of-Field Preview - EOS R
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Every experience photographer doesn’t need DOF all the time since they can estimate pretty well what will come out, or assess this at first. And you definitely don’t need DOF preview when shooting at 10 FPS and tracking since you won’t be paying attention to this.

This I cannot agree on. The professional or experienced photographer using a zoomlens cannot be intuitive on the DOF. Sorry but what you are saying is wrong.

Fujifilm got two advantages over the Canon System: They are constantly showing the DOF with shutter half pressed and still work the AF brilliantly. The DOF will be shown in the EVF and display, which is first class with landscape.

Best, Peter

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lawny13 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,132
Re: Depth-of-Field Preview - EOS

Sir_Peter wrote:

Every experience photographer doesn’t need DOF all the time since they can estimate pretty well what will come out, or assess this at first. And you definitely don’t need DOF preview when shooting at 10 FPS and tracking since you won’t be paying attention to this.

This I cannot agree on. The professional or experienced photographer using a zoomlens cannot be intuitive on the DOF. Sorry but what you are saying is wrong.

Fujifilm got two advantages over the Canon System: They are constantly showing the DOF with shutter half pressed and still work the AF brilliantly. The DOF will be shown in the EVF and display, which is first class with landscape.

Best, Peter

With landscape you aren’t working fast. So in this respect… I simply have a DOF preview button and that takes care of that.

In more dynamic situations DOF only vs wide open shooting is a mixed bag. Since canon actually takes video stopped down (of course) I know they can do stopped down focusing if they wanted to. I wish they would give us that option. For example, in good lighting where AF will be good even with stopped down shooting it would be beneficial (for obvious reasons). This is where you claim of fuji (or Sony for that matter) handling AF brilliantly is correct.

However, I owned Sony systems for years, with the A7III being the last one. And I can correct when I say that you need to keep the performance of hybrid AF systems in mind. Stoped down past f11 even is very bright sunny summer conditions the A7III would switch to CDAF. Which in turn gives you that pogo effect AF experience. Keeping this in mind… any lighting situation that gave the camera the equivalent of that amount of lighting would result in the same experience. So think dim lighting… combination of f-setting and lighting. It was frankly quite annoying to only be able to do continuous AF if I was shooting wide open with an F1.8 lens in some situations, and at times not even that, cause CDAF is just too slow.

So… if I had the choice of having wide open focusing or stopped down focusing, I would chose the former every time. However, as I mentioned I think canon could give us the open to set it. In which case I would use whatever setting makes sense for a given situation.

I simply won’t go back to the situation where with the A7III I didn’t even bother to try and take a picture cause I new CDAF would just frustrate and the moment would be gone anyway. With the canon I can generally approximate my f# settings for the DOF I want since I have that experience over from when I used to shoot DSLRs. A quick press of the DOF button also helps me confirm what I envision if I am in doubt.

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