Choice between X-T and X-H series, all things being equal

If the X-T3 had IBIS, and the forthcoming X-H2 received all the X-T3 improvements, which would choose?

I started this poll because of Kai Wong's review where he said that, if the X-T3 had IBIS, there'd be no need for the X-H series.

Kai is wrong. Some people prefer the larger body, shutter release, sturdier construction, and top LCD of the X-H1.

Peetz wrote:

dual12 wrote:

Kai is wrong. Some people prefer the larger body, shutter release, sturdier construction, and top LCD of the X-H1.

I'm curious. If you prefer larger bodies, why stay with APS-C? Why not go to Full Frame?

Fuji doesn't make one.

Sal

I didn't state that I preferred a larger body. But don't discount that most FF lenses are much larger, and there's little difference in image quality between FF and Fuji APS-C. If I need better image quality, I'll use medium format, which is a more obvious difference.

Peetz wrote:

Based on the poll results, it seems Fujifilm should work to miniaturize IBIS for the X-T4, by learning some tips from Sony's A6500. And then dump the X-H series.

Why does it have to be an OR choice between T and H?  I have both and use them for different purposes.  And no I will not simply go FF or DSLR as the current FUJI offering allows me to use the same lenses on both bodies.  Nor does adding IBIS to the T series obviate the need for the H imo.

Not sure if IBIS would sway me over to the XH2

I'm perfectly OK with OIS lenses

I still prefer the smaller body + optional Arca grip which is more useful to me than just a huge grip without Arca

The top LCD is a welcome feature but not a deal killer

The smooth shutter is nice to have but XT3 ain't bad to start with

The XH build is better but the difference is like a Panzer vs a Tiger, both can withstand abuse for many moons

Now what I 'd like to see in both is a new battery capable of at least 900 shots (read Sony A9) and maybe a better LCD a la Nikon Z

And last but not least a way to add custom settings to a function button or my Menu (been waiting for firmware release on this for many moons)

Peetz wrote:

Based on the poll results, it seems Fujifilm should work to miniaturize IBIS for the X-T4, by learning some tips from Sony's A6500. And then dump the X-H series.

I hear the people's reasons for liking the X-H, but as the mirrorless wars heat up, I think people who like heavy cameras may not be as loyal to Fujifilm as those users who like compact, smaller cameras.

People who like whopping big cameras have the option of going to Nikon, Canon, Sony, Pentax and Lumix - whereas people that choose Fuji for light weight are less likely to jump ship to the heavier brands.

Exaggerate much? “Whopping big?” There’s about a 40% difference in weight between a similarly outfitted X-T3 and a 7DMkII (1665g for 7DMkII plus 17-55 f/2.8 vs. 1194g for X-T3 plus 16-55). Add about 130g to the equation if you want to compare the X-H1, and the difference still remains huge. So, join the group of people here who like to exaggerate and overposition the size issue here.

I totally get the fact that some folks prefer more compact cameras and might find the X-H1 to be less comfortable to hold and carry than an X-T3, for example. I have no issue with that. I do have an issue with trying to compare the size increase of the X-Hn series as putting it in the same class as a DSLR and using terms like “whopping big” to describe it. Thanks just plain bunk, IMHO.

True, but what have the romans ever done for us?

• Peetz wrote:

dual12 wrote:

Kai is wrong. Some people prefer the larger body, shutter release, sturdier construction, and top LCD of the X-H1.

I'm curious. If you prefer larger bodies, why stay with APS-C? Why not go to Full Frame?

Because of lens size maybe?

Canadianguy wrote:

Jerry-astro wrote:

Peetz wrote:

Based on the poll results, it seems Fujifilm should work to miniaturize IBIS for the X-T4, by learning some tips from Sony's A6500. And then dump the X-H series.

I hear the people's reasons for liking the X-H, but as the mirrorless wars heat up, I think people who like heavy cameras may not be as loyal to Fujifilm as those users who like compact, smaller cameras.

People who like whopping big cameras have the option of going to Nikon, Canon, Sony, Pentax and Lumix - whereas people that choose Fuji for light weight are less likely to jump ship to the heavier brands.

Exaggerate much? “Whopping big?” There’s about a 40% difference in weight between a similarly outfitted X-T3 and a 7DMkII (1665g for 7DMkII plus 17-55 f/2.8 vs. 1194g for X-T3 plus 16-55). Add about 130g to the equation if you want to compare the X-H1, and the difference still remains huge. So, join the group of people here who like to exaggerate and overposition the size issue here.

I totally get the fact that some folks prefer more compact cameras and might find the X-H1 to be less comfortable to hold and carry than an X-T3, for example. I have no issue with that. I do have an issue with trying to compare the size increase of the X-Hn series as putting it in the same class as a DSLR and using terms like “whopping big” to describe it. Thanks just plain bunk, IMHO.

All things being equal - I would much prefer the X-H# over the X-T# body. Fits better in my hand, shutter is much dampened, stronger lens mount, stronger body, top display screen, IBIS.

But things are not equal - the X-H# has a $300-400 USD premium on it. Although the things mentioned above are nice to me - I just don't thinks its worth the price premium to me.

Well, now that’s a very different kettle of fish.  Most of the arguments here have been around the X-H1’s “huge” size and additional weight, which as I said previously, comes across to me as just bunk and overpositioning, IMHO.  However, the price difference is indisputable and then it simply comes down to value and your own needs.  I personally really like the handling and feel of the camera, particularly with larger lenses, and IBIS is highly beneficial for much of the photography I do when traveling — often in low light situations.  Thus, the $300-400 USD premium is absolutely worth it... to me.  Whether that applies to you or others is a very individual thing and all the arguments in the world won’t convince someone who can’t see the benefit as justifying the additional cost.  So, arguing the point, as many seem to want to do here, makes little sense, since the notion of value is really very much an individual thing.  That’s why it’s great to have choices.

Peetz wrote:

Based on the poll results, it seems Fujifilm should work to miniaturize IBIS for the X-T4, by learning some tips from Sony's A6500. And then dump the X-H series.

I hear the people's reasons for liking the X-H, but as the mirrorless wars heat up, I think people who like heavy cameras may not be as loyal to Fujifilm as those users who like compact, smaller cameras.

People who like whopping big cameras have the option of going to Nikon, Canon, Sony, Pentax and Lumix - whereas people that choose Fuji for light weight are less likely to jump ship to the heavier brands.

I disagree. The H series is interesting BUT I agree that Fuji needs to differentiate it more.

Whether they add IBIS to the T4 or not, there's other things to add to the H2

- BIGGER BATTERY. Make it a proper pro level camera

- Flip out screen. This is gonna be the top end video camera correct? This is IMO a must have feature for this. Also of course, add the headphone jack on body like the T3.

- Additional video/audio interfaces on accessories: Remember the GH4 had a YAGH video interface attachment. Add this as a bottom grip style accessory that will add SDI and XLR input/output for more options for video creators

- Additional flash controls to match high end Nikon and Canon offerings

- Eff it. Built-in GPS/GLONASS for geotagging.