Is the M6 still worth it?

xabi req wrote:

The camera was announced in Feb 2017 so it's been out for almost two years.

It's being sold for 460 (euro) and I am considering buying it (I'd try to sell the M10 + 15-45 mm).

Your thoughts?

Its actually a good camera, but for right now, it is also worth waiting for the possible EOS R APS-C camera. Normally, I'd say go ahead, but the EOS-M lineup hasn't been fully fleshed out, and may never be if the R APS-C comes about. I wouldn't want to buy into a dead-end system if a perfectly reasonable (or even better) replacement is around the corner.

xabi req wrote:

The camera was announced in Feb 2017 so it's been out for almost two years.

It's being sold for 460 (euro) and I am considering buying it (I'd try to sell the M10 + 15-45 mm).

Your thoughts?

Not if you want good auto-focusing in low light, IBIS / Dual-IS, or generally snappy auto-focus. M50 is currently the only EOS-M camera with somewhat good low light focusing ability. I'd suggest a micro-four-thirds camera if you care about getting the best auto-focus and stabilization performance. They're also generally very nice cameras and the available lenses are excellent. I have an M6 with 22mm f/2 and it's a nice compact setup, but I'm never gonna expand it or stick with this system. As for auto-focus speed (when it works) it's "decent" at best. Essentially the same detail level with a good 20mp MFT camera, at up to ISO 3200 (which is the most I ever use in APS-C too, because higher is just too extreme and there's no situation where I need that). If you care about ISO 6400 and higher (which you shouldn't, unless you have very special, specific requirements) and don't care about IBIS or Dual-IS (which can be unbelievably useful to the point of hilarity), forget about MFT, but do seriously consider other APS-C systems.

xabi req wrote:

The camera was announced in Feb 2017 so it's been out for almost two years.

It's being sold for 460 (euro) and I am considering buying it (I'd try to sell the M10 + 15-45 mm).

Your thoughts?

I bought a M6 last month (eventually replaced it with a M5, because I thought I could shoot without an EVF) and it’s totally worth it for its sub-$500 price (refurbished from Canon store). I was going to wait for its Mark II version next year, but I think it will only have minor improvements + cost around $800.

Here are a few shots with the M6 + 32mm f/1.4...

When the OP ask for advice on buying a new camera, my obligation is to give him the best possible answer, not protect Canon's bottom line, even if what you say were true (which it probably is not, it is laughable to think that my asking the OP to consider waiting for the R system is going have any effect on Canon's bottom line - delusions of grandeur seriously?). To the OP, my advice still stands, it is worth considering the R line for future proofing, and it is very easy and therefore somewhat likely for Canon to create an APS-C R line with the same sensor mount that can take advantage of all the excellent glass in the the R line. But if you are happy with the M system as is, there is no harm in buying it as long as you are not relying on future updates which at the moment is  AT BEST uncertrain (and I would love for anyone to actually prove me wrong on this).

Marco Nero wrote:

MinAZ wrote:

xabi req wrote:

The camera was announced in Feb 2017 so it's been out for almost two years.

It's being sold for 460 (euro) and I am considering buying it (I'd try to sell the M10 + 15-45 mm).

Your thoughts?

The M6 is the 'perfect mirrorless camera' if not for the slightly-louder (than I'd prefer) shutter click. It's a completely well rounded camera and I believe it's currently the best built of the current models and offers everything you'd expect to see with a DSLR in a very compact body.

Its actually a good camera, but for right now, it is also worth waiting for the possible EOS R APS-C camera. Normally, I'd say go ahead, but the EOS-M lineup hasn't been fully fleshed out, and may never be if the R APS-C comes about. I wouldn't want to buy into a dead-end system if a perfectly reasonable (or even better) replacement is around the corner.

PLEASE STOP POSTING FAKE RUMORS HERE. It affects the sales of cameras, which damages the baselines implemented by the manufacturers. In fact if you're going to refer to the EOSM as a "Dead System" when their latest lens hasn't even officially hit the streets here where I am, then you really shouldn't post here on an EOS M forum where such comments are divisive and dishonest.
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xabi req wrote:

The camera was announced in Feb 2017 so it's been out for almost two years.

It's being sold for 460 (euro) and I am considering buying it (I'd try to sell the M10 + 15-45 mm).

Your thoughts?

Excellent and highly recommended camera. For E460 I would not hesitate. In my experience 15-45mm lens achieved very good size/price/image quality balance.

There are many people here with excellent knowledge of the EOS M system, and it is easy to get good advice. Ignore baseless "the EOS M system is dead" FUD spread by some. Do not trust people who talk about death of the EOS M system jumping from: "it is very easy for Canon to..." to: "therefore it is likely (even certain) that Canon will...". Poor logic: there is no "therefore" between possible and certain.

MinAZ wrote:

...To the OP, my advice still stands, it is worth considering the R line for future proofing, and it is very easy and therefore somewhat likely for Canon to create an APS-C R line with the same sensor mount that can take advantage of all the excellent glass in the the R line. But if you are happy with the M system as is, there is no harm in buying it as long as you are not relying on future updates which at the moment is AT BEST uncertrain (and I would love for anyone to actually prove me wrong on this).

How about you prove your assumption instead? The OP is asking for advice regarding a $500 compact MILC, and you are recommending a non-existent camera to take advantage of "excellent" 1.5-3 pound, $1,100 to $3,000 lenses?

Poor low light AF? Really. Are you trying to shoot in the dark? I put an efs 17-55 2.8 on my M6 with adapter and shot a fashion exhibit in a museum. better than my 70d with OVF. Quick AF and accurate

GREG

Thanks for your comments. I didn't explain myself good enough, tho: I didn't need convincing about the quality of the camera. What I wanted to know was if it was worth paying some 500€ for a camera this old, knowing that there are rumours about two new mirrorless cameras coming in 2019.

Praefos wrote:

So the first big questions are: For what purposes do you need it? What is your budget? What do you Need in a camera?

I don't need the camera, I want it.

HaroldC3 wrote:

If I didn't own one I'd buy it still. What is it about your m10 that has you looking?

My main camera is the 760D, and I like it very much but it's way too big and heavy to carry it with me every day. I bought the M10 + 22mm a year ago now, and I love the size, but miss the extra dials.

DevilsCry wrote

Yes, the M6 is still totally worth it. You can also look at the cheaper M100. It is a newer camera which might make you feel better.

I got the M10 once the M100 was announced. I don't think it was worth the price back then, and dials were the same so I'd have the same issue.

fino_nyc wrote:

I was going to wait for its Mark II version next year, but I think it will only have minor improvements + cost around $800.

Exactly. What will they add, cropped 4k video? Meh.

MinAZ wrote:

Its actually a good camera, but for right now, it is also worth waiting for the possible EOS R APS-C camera. Normally, I'd say go ahead, but the EOS-M lineup hasn't been fully fleshed out, and may never be if the R APS-C comes about. I wouldn't want to buy into a dead-end system if a perfectly reasonable (or even better) replacement is around the corner.

I own EF-S and M gear, and I am not interested in switching to a new mount and investing thousands of €/£/$. Even if they made a FF camera this size and price (ha!), I doubt I would want it. APS-C works well for me.

fanga wrote:

Excellent and highly recommended camera. For E460 I would not hesitate. In my experience 15-45mm lens achieved very good size/price/image quality balance.

Sadly after my research I have seen that despite making it look like they are from Europe the seller actually ship it from China (delivery taking ages, no guarantee…). And TrustPilot is full of bad reviews (although which company has a good rating on TrustPilot?).

So I think I will cross my fingers and wait until cybermonday or something like that. Thanks anyway.