Fujifilm X-T100 - Experience and Pics

Peter Jonas wrote:

Advent1sam wrote:

Fezhat wrote:

It's clumsy the tilt screen is a pest to open, touch screen a bit iffy, Bluetooth so so and...... no "happy stick"

the image results are great and easy PP with the room of light

Fezhat, not sure what your agenda is here, but this is just fake news, something not right here. The tilt screen tilts up perfectly, 99% of the time, that's how I want it, its all many many cameras offer too. I am sorry but the tilt mechanism is far from clumsy, I'd say its beautifully engineered, maybe you have a different camera, not sure!

I am not sure who's got what agenda here.

But I suspect you'd think that screen is one of the clumsiest ones if the X-T100 had an X-Trans sensor.

Peter, do you have an x-t100?

Peter Jonas wrote:

Advent1sam wrote:

Peter Jonas wrote:

Advent1sam wrote:

Fezhat wrote:

It's clumsy the tilt screen is a pest to open, touch screen a bit iffy, Bluetooth so so and...... no "happy stick"

the image results are great and easy PP with the room of light

Fezhat, not sure what your agenda is here, but this is just fake news, something not right here. The tilt screen tilts up perfectly, 99% of the time, that's how I want it, its all many many cameras offer too. I am sorry but the tilt mechanism is far from clumsy, I'd say its beautifully engineered, maybe you have a different camera, not sure!

I am not sure who's got what agenda here.

But I suspect you'd think that screen is one of the clumsiest ones if the X-T100 had an X-Trans sensor.

Peter, do you have an x-t100?

No, I do not have an X-T100. What's more, I have never seen one either, nor do I have any idea what its flip up screen works like.

Please note I am not making any claims in relation to that screen.

I just know what you think about it now, and, as I stated in my previous post, I think I have a pretty good idea what you'd think about it, if that camera had an X-Trans sensor.

Peter, no offence, but I am not going to converse further with you. I am happy to discuss with Fezhat and I would also point him to the youtuber too, where angry photographer of all people pretty much says exactly the same about the screen and its fluidity and he also has pretty big hands and he appears to have no problem flipping the screen either. Like I say, if the camera had a poor screen I would be the first to admit it, despite what you might think of me Peter, I am not in the game of spreading fake news, far from it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fmiG6ZQP64

Peter Jonas wrote:

Advent1sam wrote:

Peter Jonas wrote:

Advent1sam wrote:

Peter Jonas wrote:

Advent1sam wrote:

Fezhat wrote:

It's clumsy the tilt screen is a pest to open, touch screen a bit iffy, Bluetooth so so and...... no "happy stick"

the image results are great and easy PP with the room of light

Fezhat, not sure what your agenda is here, but this is just fake news, something not right here. The tilt screen tilts up perfectly, 99% of the time, that's how I want it, its all many many cameras offer too. I am sorry but the tilt mechanism is far from clumsy, I'd say its beautifully engineered, maybe you have a different camera, not sure!

I am not sure who's got what agenda here.

But I suspect you'd think that screen is one of the clumsiest ones if the X-T100 had an X-Trans sensor.

Peter, do you have an x-t100?

No, I do not have an X-T100. What's more, I have never seen one either, nor do I have any idea what its flip up screen works like.

Please note I am not making any claims in relation to that screen.

I just know what you think about it now, and, as I stated in my previous post, I think I have a pretty good idea what you'd think about it, if that camera had an X-Trans sensor.

Peter, no offence, but I am not going to converse further with you. I am happy to discuss with Fezhat and I would also point him to the youtuber too, where angry photographer of all people pretty much says exactly the same about the screen and its fluidity and he also has pretty big hands and he appears to have no problem flipping the screen either. Like I say, if the camera had a poor screen I would be the first to admit it, despite what you might think of me Peter, I am not in the game of spreading fake news, far from it!

It doesn't hurt if Fezhat and everyone else involved in the discussions knew that evidenced by your past record on these discussions forums, when it comes to having an objective opinion about equipment your credibility approaches zero.

Today you have an emotionally overcharged positive bias for the camera where nothing can be negative, but by tomorrow you may have a diagonally opposite view just as extreme, where nothing may be good about it.

I think it's better if people are aware of that when discussing this or other pieces of equipment with you.

Still, enjoy using your X-T100, just as much as once you enjoyed using your X-T1.

Until one day ...

There is no need to further converse with me. No offence taken.

OK, just to clarify, I have never ever owned an X-T1, maybe there is a mistake somewhere or a typo, not sure, for clarity:

I purchased the x-pro2 on release, it was the first ever Fuji interchangeable camera that I ever purchased, one of the first in the UK from wex, I loved that camera I really did, the ovf, the flat body rangefinder feel etc, it was a joy. I got some nice images, very pleased with it at the time but it was an interesting time as I maintained a m43 system at the same time too. I compared extensively the GX8, first gen 20mp m43 with it initially, I had the 18-55 2.8-4 on the x-pro2 and the 12-35 2.8 on the GX8, I felt the subject isolation was superior to m43 especially when I added the 35 1.4 and 10-24/55-200 and I prefer 3:2 ratio to 4:3, you can crop 4:3 but then you are down to 18mp. After a holiday with the x-pro2 I think things started to dawn on me in LR, sharpening etc. I was in denial, I think that is correct, it must be me! Anyway, after adding more Fuji lenses and all the while keeping m43 too I finally decided that maybe I had a bad x-pro2 copy, I became more analytical on the files, the purple grid in backlit subjects, the very harsh contrast and color cast etc etc of x-pro2 became more and more apparent, I lobbied Iridient quite heavily along with others for a pc based raw developer, xtransformer was the result! Still, I bought the X-T2 to see if it was related to x-pro2 and took the X-T2 on a holiday and again on return analysed the files. I could make the files look very good but it was hard work imo. I got the X-T20 to see if it was an option, I missed the touch screen of the m43 bodies still and decided to get one to see. I would say the x-t20 was possibly one of the worst camera decisions, compared to the x-t2 was pretty humbling experience, I took it out a few times but it went back, shortly after I went back fully to m43. Certainly I never ever intended to go Fuji aps-c again, I would of liked to with the excellent lens selection and aps-c being the sweet spot for sensor size vs lens/body size but I thought I should just be content with m43, see what happens plus Panasonic and Olympus announced some nice glass around the 2017 too. Earlier this year on a whim I bought an a6500 , aps-c/ibis/touch/big buffer/great c-af and initially 16mm/30mm 1.4, with the view to add more and more Sony lens and possibly go FF with a6500 as a back-up, I will say only one thing about the Sony a6500, never ever again either! I was very close to FF (a7r3) and have resisted many times and I am glad I did. I have a lot of experience with m43, it is a good system but for me personally as a budding photographer I feel m43 has peaked, now I have the x-t100 I think that is especially true. I don't want to lug big gear around, who does, but there is a limit to which I am willing to do that but only if I need to and the results are worth it, the 100-400 is a big lens, same as FF, but which FF gives me a 24mp 600mm lens currently the size of the 100-400? Similarly the 16-35 2.8 is a good option on an a7r3, but then  when you add in the 100-400 its all getting big big big. I do wish for a higher performance x-t100, why not, its not perfect, there are limitations with it for sure. But right now, the x-t100, 10-24,18-55,55-200,100-400 for a weight size iq ratio is up there with the best. Hope that gives some context to my buying decision and how I arrived on the x-t100, like I say I have plenty of background and plenty to compare with, if it wasn't very good I would say so.

Sal Baker wrote:

Peter Jonas wrote:

Advent1sam wrote:

Peter Jonas wrote:

Advent1sam wrote:

Fezhat wrote:

It's clumsy the tilt screen is a pest to open, touch screen a bit iffy, Bluetooth so so and...... no "happy stick"

the image results are great and easy PP with the room of light

Fezhat, not sure what your agenda is here, but this is just fake news, something not right here. The tilt screen tilts up perfectly, 99% of the time, that's how I want it, its all many many cameras offer too. I am sorry but the tilt mechanism is far from clumsy, I'd say its beautifully engineered, maybe you have a different camera, not sure!

I am not sure who's got what agenda here.

But I suspect you'd think that screen is one of the clumsiest ones if the X-T100 had an X-Trans sensor.

Peter, do you have an x-t100?

No, I do not have an X-T100. What's more, I have never seen one either, nor do I have any idea what its flip up screen works like.

Please note I am not making any claims in relation to that screen.

I just know what you think about it now, and, as I stated in my previous post, I think I have a pretty good idea what you'd think about it, if that camera had an X-Trans sensor.

I don't find X-Trans to be much of an issue, at least in the 16mp generation. I slightly prefer the look of my 16mp Bayer camera except at higher ISOs, but it has a 5-year old sensor. I can make RAW files from Fuji 24mp X-Trans and Bayer look idistinguishable in Iridient Developer, but returning to LR (with the Bayer X-T100) is an attraction to me. Either of the CFAs should work fine for large prints.

Sal

Not going to dispute any of the above Sal, its correct, you can get results from both sensors, but now the x-t100 is available, wow what an opportunity for the best of both worlds, great aps-c body/glass and great raw files with acr/lr.

Advent1sam wrote:

Fezhat wrote:

Advent1sam wrote:

Fezhat wrote:

Advent1sam wrote:

Fezhat wrote:

It's clumsy the tilt screen is a pest to open, touch screen a bit iffy, Bluetooth so so and...... no "happy stick"

the image results are great and easy PP with the room of light

Fezhat, not sure what your agenda is here, but this is just fake news, something not right here. The tilt screen tilts up perfectly, 99% of the time, that's how I want it, its all many many cameras offer too. I am sorry but the tilt mechanism is far from clumsy, I'd say its beautifully engineered, maybe you have a different camera, not sure!

Sal, you want to play with this camera, just order one, they are so cheap and you can find someone surely who has a return policy if order on the internet. The touch screen works great, maybe I should do some videos of it being operated.

Maybe that’s how you want it but the tilt screen on the olympus cameras are far superior like I stated great results from a ordinary camera ergonomically

Fezhat, I have owned, omd em5, omd em10 mkii, omd em1, omd em1 ii, omd em5 mkii as well as GH1, GH2, (then swithced to Oly as above), then back to GH5 and G9, sometimes I had 3/4 cameras at any one time, I think I know a thing or two about m43, been through the lot just about. So, on what level do you think and which Oly are you referring to has a better tilt than the x-t100 as it just ain't so!

Your opinion not mine

It was a question, which Oly are you referring to, agreed it is my opinion, but it works absolutely perfectly, so on what level and which Oly are you referring to. Fezhat, a bit of perspective, I chose the x-t100 for a myriad of things, I didn't expect it to be very good, it was a whim, I was curious and sceptical too, if it was garbage, be under no illusion I would say so, it isn't and the tilt screen is as good as any other out there and it is especially better than the Sony a6500, which has no soft buttons and is very sluggish in use, x-t100 is infinitely better than the a6500 in every respect.

Om5 ii

ps keep your fake news comments to yourself my opinion is no more or less fake thsn yours

ps the camera needs a joystick and a decent touch screen other thsn that it does the job for me with slow photography and the room of light post processing.

Then again I may sell it ............

Fezhat wrote:

Advent1sam wrote:

Fezhat wrote:

Advent1sam wrote:

Fezhat wrote:

Advent1sam wrote:

Fezhat wrote:

It's clumsy the tilt screen is a pest to open, touch screen a bit iffy, Bluetooth so so and...... no "happy stick"

the image results are great and easy PP with the room of light

Fezhat, not sure what your agenda is here, but this is just fake news, something not right here. The tilt screen tilts up perfectly, 99% of the time, that's how I want it, its all many many cameras offer too. I am sorry but the tilt mechanism is far from clumsy, I'd say its beautifully engineered, maybe you have a different camera, not sure!

Sal, you want to play with this camera, just order one, they are so cheap and you can find someone surely who has a return policy if order on the internet. The touch screen works great, maybe I should do some videos of it being operated.

Maybe that’s how you want it but the tilt screen on the olympus cameras are far superior like I stated great results from a ordinary camera ergonomically

Fezhat, I have owned, omd em5, omd em10 mkii, omd em1, omd em1 ii, omd em5 mkii as well as GH1, GH2, (then swithced to Oly as above), then back to GH5 and G9, sometimes I had 3/4 cameras at any one time, I think I know a thing or two about m43, been through the lot just about. So, on what level do you think and which Oly are you referring to has a better tilt than the x-t100 as it just ain't so!

Your opinion not mine

It was a question, which Oly are you referring to, agreed it is my opinion, but it works absolutely perfectly, so on what level and which Oly are you referring to. Fezhat, a bit of perspective, I chose the x-t100 for a myriad of things, I didn't expect it to be very good, it was a whim, I was curious and sceptical too, if it was garbage, be under no illusion I would say so, it isn't and the tilt screen is as good as any other out there and it is especially better than the Sony a6500, which has no soft buttons and is very sluggish in use, x-t100 is infinitely better than the a6500 in every respect.

Om5 ii

That's an entirely different type of lcd, doesn't tilt up or down behind the camera, alot of people dissapointed with that after the mk1. For me I prefer the x-t100

ps keep your fake news comments to yourself my opinion is no more or less fake thsn yours

There is nothing clumsy about the x-t100 screen is the point!

ps the camera needs a joystick and a decent touch screen other thsn that it does the job for me with slow photography and the room of light post processing.

Well, I too would like a joystick, the touch screen is great though, in another league to the sony a6500, seems comparable to m43 bodies to me.

Then again I may sell it ............

Your camera, do with it as you feel fit.

That's an entirely different type of lcd, doesn't tilt up or down behind the camera, alot of people dissapointed with that after the mk1. For me I prefer the x-t10

Thst,s exactly the point it is different and not as clumsy plus the option of protecting the screen

Well, I too would like a joystick, the touch screen is great though, in another league to the sony a6500, seems comparable to m43 bodies to me.

Resonse time is slow compared to Panasonic etc

"I am almost totally unable to do anything with the swipe gestures on the screen to access functions. I just can't make it do anything."

mjdundee wrote:

Hi Mark,

I intended to write about my own experiences with the X-T100 but then I read your review and discovered that there would not be much left to mention.

Thanks for this very unbiased and comprehensive user review. I would sign it without any remarks.

Maybe one advice regarding the dial on the top left: have customized it from the film simulation to select the focus area ; )

Cheers,

Tom

p.s.

I am shooting JPGs - nothing else and never understood why so many people try to beat their manufacturers software engineers by spending hours working with RAW developping software (OK - it has become much easier with LR recently)

Anyway - I tried to optimize your Leaf JPG and in my eyes this looks minimum as good as what you have developped from RAW

MJD, Many of us have the top left dial for iso, which I find works superb too, each to his own of course. We could/should start a tips and tricks with the X-T100 as one thing I discovered was if you hold the function button down you can then select on the hoof to switch to different functions, eg say you are set up for ae-lock, you can quickly switch to af-lock or both, very cool. I am sure Fuji could customise the buttons further if they wanted, especially the soft buttons. I am using the l-plate grip on my x-t100 which I can only recommend to everyone as it moves the camera up another level of ruggedness/size and grip with little weight gain. The tiny extra width and grip and solidity really works for the x-t100