"Pros always use Manual exposure, A and S are for amateurs ..

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Joris1632 Senior Member • Posts: 2,060
"Pros always use Manual exposure, A and S are for amateurs ..
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......... who don't know better" - quotes from another forum; any comments?  My personal view is that subject and conditions dictate the exposure mode .......

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Joris1632 wrote:

......... who don't know better" - quotes from another forum; any comments? My personal view is that subject and conditions dictate the exposure mode .......

Snobbery is a beautiful thing.

Mike CH Veteran Member • Posts: 9,631
You shouldn’t believe everything you read on a forum
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Joris1632 wrote:

......... who don't know better" - quotes from another forum; any comments? My personal view is that subject and conditions dictate the exposure mode .......

You shouldn’t believe everything you read on a forum.

This particular claim is of course utter non-sense.

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'Pros' can use whatever mode allows them to get the shot they need or want with the most reliability and most control and that mode may be different for different subjects and cases.  Some pros may always use M, some always use A and S, some use P, some use P, A, S, and M as needed.

It's a common misconception that using a priority or program auto mode means you can no longer control the outcome...you can still control the settings, the exposure, and the framing of the shot in ANY P, A, S, or M mode...it's just a matter of using the one that works best for you in the given situation.

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Beachcomber Joe
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Re: "Pros always use Manual exposure, A and S are for amateurs ..

Joris1632 wrote:

......... who don't know better" - quotes from another forum; any comments? My personal view is that subject and conditions dictate the exposure mode .......

I doubt if much has changed in the preferences of pros from when the 119th post was made three days ago in this thread: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4319885.

Bottom line, well over half of pros use manual shooting mode all or most of the time.  They do that to gain maximum control and consistency.  They use it because it works best for them.  It does not mean it is the best choice for everyone or even for all pros.  Indeed, a significant percentage of pros use aperture priority.

Dennis Forum Pro • Posts: 18,603
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Joris1632 wrote:

......... who don't know better" - quotes from another forum; any comments?

Probably wasn't a pro, but a pretender, who said it.

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It's not snobbery, just ignorance. (nt)
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Matt Kolberg Regular Member • Posts: 220
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Interesting statistic. I've never been able to find a reliable website listing these facts. Where did you get them?

Beachcomber Joe wrote:

Joris1632 wrote:

......... who don't know better" - quotes from another forum; any comments? My personal view is that subject and conditions dictate the exposure mode .......

I doubt if much has changed in the preferences of pros from when the 119th post was made three days ago in this thread: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4319885.

Bottom line, well over half of pros use manual shooting mode all or most of the time. They do that to gain maximum control and consistency. They use it because it works best for them. It does not mean it is the best choice for everyone or even for all pros. Indeed, a significant percentage of pros use aperture priority.

Chaplain Mark
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Actually....
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Al Gore invented Auto Exposure, and he meant for AE to be used only by amateurs, so the original statement is true 'cause I heard it on the Internet....    

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justmeMN Veteran Member • Posts: 7,207
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Mike CH wrote:

You shouldn’t believe everything you read on a forum.

anything?

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Just plain BS ! The "pros" also use S and A, but certainly not P !
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robblackett Senior Member • Posts: 1,211
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Joris1632 wrote:

......... who don't know better" - quotes from another forum; any comments? My personal view is that subject and conditions dictate the exposure mode .......

Actually it's a fairly well known fact that 'P' mode stands for Professional. And it's often marked in green to help them remember.

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Michael Fryd
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Joris1632 wrote:

......... who don't know better" - quotes from another forum; any comments? My personal view is that subject and conditions dictate the exposure mode .......

There are clearly situations where "M" is a good choice, and situations where "M" is a bad choice.

A true professional should choose the setting best for the situation at hand.   An amateur is more likely to follow some anonymous general advice he read on the Internet.

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robblackett Senior Member • Posts: 1,211
Re: Just plain BS ! The "pros" also use S and A, but certainly not P !

JP Scherrer wrote:

(Nt)

I know of a large number of pros who use P.

Beachcomber Joe
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Matt Kolberg wrote:

Interesting statistic. I've never been able to find a reliable website listing these facts. Where did you get them?

They are based primarily on our conversations with over 100 professional photographers that have appeared on our weekly show.  Those pros span a variety of disciplines from fine art photographers like Canon Explorer of Light Parish Kohanim to bird photographers like Artie Morris (our 1st & 100th guest), and include a few large format photographers, a couple of underwater photographers, and an aerial photographer.  I also get to spend time with those pros who are on the conference speaking circuit and their preferences mirror those on our show.

I find it interesting to talk to a pro one week who swears by manual and the next week talk to one who rarely, if ever, uses it.  While they differ widely in what they shoot and their personalities, what they have in common is a passion for photography.  They've found what works for them through experimentation and experience.   I can only think of a few with egos so large that they think that everyone should shoot the way they do.

a_c_skinner Veteran Member • Posts: 7,157
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The only thing that marks out professional snappers is that people give them money in return for images.  Nothing more.

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robblackett Senior Member • Posts: 1,211
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a_c_skinner wrote:

The only thing that marks out professional snappers is that people give them money in return for images. Nothing more.

And that they tend be less anal about equipment.

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Joris1632 wrote:

......... who don't know better" - quotes from another forum; any comments? My personal view is that subject and conditions dictate the exposure mode .......

All depends on the situation.  Is a ridiculous statement from the outset!

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Joris1632 wrote:

......... who don't know better" - quotes from another forum; any comments? My personal view is that subject and conditions dictate the exposure mode .......

Most people who say things like that are using their camera's metering system, so they may think they are using manual exposure, but really they aren't. Of the settings you shoot, if you choose to make one a priority for any number of valid reasons, it really is not very different that setting all the settings manually, especially if you are using the cameras meter. Moving dials until the needle centers is hardly difficult.

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Schrodingers_cat Senior Member • Posts: 1,207
quoting Ken Rockwell perhaps :)
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