Is the 24-85mm good enough for a D850?

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hwg Contributing Member • Posts: 698
Is the 24-85mm good enough for a D850?

Hi,

Re: Nikon 24-85mm f3.5-4.5 AF-S G ED VR Lens

Is the 24-85mm good enough for a D850?

Seems too cheap!

Is it sharp?

Anyone using it on a D850?

Any thoughts?

Thanks

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Schrodingers_cat Senior Member • Posts: 3,206
Wrong question :)
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The lens in question is fairly well accepted as being a pretty good lens considering age, cost, and so forth. That is a quality of the lens, and is indedpendant of the body upon which it is used.

If you think the lens produces good results on a D3 for instance, it won't produce worse results just because you put it on a D850. The only result will be that you are leaving a lot of the D850 sensor capability on the table. Compare images at the same print size.

If you absolutely have to have the sharpest image possible, that requires the sharpest lens available. Most of us don't need this absolute level of performance, or prefer not to pay for it, or prefer not to accept the size/weight penalty often associated with the absolute sharpest lenses.

I've been using some pretty cheap lenses on the D850 and have no complaints. This is going to be pretty much a personal decision.

Michael Benveniste
Michael Benveniste Veteran Member • Posts: 5,735
Re: Is the 24-85mm good enough for a D850?
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hwg wrote:

Any thoughts?

I wouldn't shell out the money for a D850 if the only lens I intended to use was the 24-85mm.  However, I can easily see buying one for those occasions when you don't want to haul around multiple lenses and don't know what's around the corner that you might want to photograph.  That's pretty much how I've used, in succession, all three models of 24-120mm Nikkors.

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OP hwg Contributing Member • Posts: 698
Re: Is the 24-85mm good enough for a D850?

Yes, i have a few primes,

I was just thinking of a good convenient lens really. That wasn't too bad.

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Woj2007
Woj2007 Regular Member • Posts: 168
Re: Is the 24-85mm good enough for a D850?

hwg wrote:

Hi,

Re: Nikon 24-85mm f3.5-4.5 AF-S G ED VR Lens

Is the 24-85mm good enough for a D850?

Have a look here (under the 70-300 AF-P comment):

http://www.dslrbodies.com/newsviews/lessons-learned.html

Best,

Wojtek

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mbecke Senior Member • Posts: 1,194
Re: Is the 24-85mm good enough for a D850?

hwg wrote:

Hi,

Re: Nikon 24-85mm f3.5-4.5 AF-S G ED VR Lens

Is the 24-85mm good enough for a D850?

Seems too cheap!

Is it sharp?

Anyone using it on a D850?

Any thoughts?

Thanks

It is a decent lens; not the very best, but more than fine for most situations.  It is also inexpensive, making it a very good value.

OP hwg Contributing Member • Posts: 698
Re: Is the 24-85mm good enough for a D850?

I may get a used one and see how it goes.

Although I took my 50mm lens to the zoo yesterday and with the d850 pixel count I can crop in quite a bit and still get a nice image.

It's just the trade-off 8n quality between cropping an image and using a slightly less good lens but not having to crop so much.

I don't alway take my full kit with me.

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fishy wishy
fishy wishy Veteran Member • Posts: 9,358
Re: Is the 24-85mm good enough for a D850?

Cropping a 50mm lens stopped down is going to get better quality than a 24-85 is capable of.

The honest answer is no, a 24-85 is not really good enough for a 45MP sensor. If you are determined to slum it to save some weight, then that's your choice.

OP hwg Contributing Member • Posts: 698
Re: Is the 24-85mm good enough for a D850?

That's what I tjought.

Its the reason I got 3 primes in the first place .

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BasilG Veteran Member • Posts: 8,895
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fishy wishy wrote:

Cropping a 50mm lens stopped down is going to get better quality than a 24-85 is capable of.

Cropping 50 mm to the FOV of 85 mm: Corners? Maybe. Center? Don't think so.

fishy wishy
fishy wishy Veteran Member • Posts: 9,358
Re: Is the 24-85mm good enough for a D850?

hwg wrote:

That's what I tjought.

Its the reason I got 3 primes in the first place .

Yeah.

The only logic in a mediocre zoom is if you don't enlarge much (why did you get a 45MP camera) or don't crop much (why did you get a 45MP camera).

If someone wants to use a 24-85 and produce desktop wallpapers they might as well stay with a D700 I think.

fishy wishy
fishy wishy Veteran Member • Posts: 9,358
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BasilG wrote:

fishy wishy wrote:

Cropping a 50mm lens stopped down is going to get better quality than a 24-85 is capable of.

Cropping 50 mm to the FOV of 85 mm: Corners? Maybe. Center? Don't think so.

I have no clue what your experience of it is because you have no gear list.

I'd take my 50mm at f4.5 over a 24-85 wide open at 85mm f4.5 and crop for non-routine photos, that's easy. I know that off the top of my head.

Lenstip think on the D3X that even the cheap 1.8G does 40lpm at f8 over the DX frame I'd be cropping from, and the 24-85 does 29lpm using FX edges and its chromatic aberration is twice as high. So for occasional cropping, a 50mm compares fine. I just wouldn't want to crop all the time... and there must be something that does better at 85mm than this stuff, really.

BasilG Veteran Member • Posts: 8,895
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fishy wishy wrote:

BasilG wrote:

fishy wishy wrote:

Cropping a 50mm lens stopped down is going to get better quality than a 24-85 is capable of.

Cropping 50 mm to the FOV of 85 mm: Corners? Maybe. Center? Don't think so.

I have no clue what your experience of it is because you have no gear list.

Owned 50/1.8 D, 50/1.4 D, 50/1.8 G, 24-85 G VR. But experience doesn't matter if maths show something to be true (or false).

I'd take my 50mm at f4.5 over a 24-85 wide open at 85mm f4.5 and crop for non-routine photos, that's easy. I know that off the top of my head.

You may need to rethink that one.

Lenstip think on the D3X that even the cheap 1.8G does 40lpm at f8 over the DX frame I'd be cropping from, and the 24-85 does 29lpm using FX edges and its chromatic aberration is twice as high.

50 to 85 is a 1.7x crop. So you'd need 70% more resolution out of the 50 to make it work. The data you quote show only a 30% increase, and that's at the edges. At the center, the difference will be even smaller. You're better off shooting at 85, correcting CA (easy), and downscaling (in case you want per-pixel quality).

Toby43 Contributing Member • Posts: 719
Re: Is the 24-85mm good enough for a D850?
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hwg wrote:

I may get a used one and see how it goes.

Although I took my 50mm lens to the zoo yesterday and with the d850 pixel count I can crop in quite a bit and still get a nice image.

It's just the trade-off 8n quality between cropping an image and using a slightly less good lens but not having to crop so much.

I don't alway take my full kit with me.

Personally I find the 28mm 1.8 g and the 85mm 1.8g a great combination and lighter overall than a 24 70 G. Also much cheaper. I would really recommend looking at this pairing.

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