Where are the Olympus cameras?....

2018 - One new camera this year - E-PL9

2017 - One last year - E-M10iii

2016 - Three (that’s better) - E-M1ii, Pen F, E-PL8

2015 - Three - most notably, that’s the last E-M5 model...

(source: DPR product timeline)

I’m not saying they need to introduce something every 6 months, but the last couple of years have been a bit baron.

I only looked because I’m wondering, WHERE IS THE E-m5iii ???

It has already been confirmed than the new em5 would come in the first half of 2019

i am awaiting for this model too

Harold

Be patient for another 6 days. Photokina opens 26th September. Then you will know.

Great cameras, slow updates.

Tommi K1 wrote:

E-M1 top model
E-M5 second best, with some prototype features that goes to E-M1
E-M10 entry level

Now, if you release lower model with new sensors and all that higher model doesn't have, you kill higher model.
If they release slightly upgraded lower model and after that a new generation in higher model, you kill sales of lower model. If you announce new tech to early in, you kill other sales as many starts to wait upgrades...

Let's say Olympus is going to release a global shutter 28Mpix sensor next with OSPDAF, 120 fps sequence speed, 1/64000 shutter speed, 2 stops better noise etc...

What is the model it should come out?

Okay, how about slightly better sensor (global shutter) but more new other features like previous pro-capture, live composite etc....

What model?

If E-M5 comes out now today with all better that E-M1 is, what does E-M1 sell for, for next 2 years? The grip alone?

Olympus is already doing E-M5 IV and E-M1 IV, wait to release them in next 4-5 years.

Easier if you would release something every year, but not if you have three tiers in same system that all competes with each others...

Isn't that how Olympus used to introduce new features in dSLR days? New cameras lower in the range would get features (version of TruePic at least) not on the higher models until the higher model was replaced.

Kiwisnap wrote:

cpt kent wrote:

2018 - One new camera this year - E-PL9

2017 - One last year - E-M10iii

2016 - Three (that’s better) - E-M1ii, Pen F, E-PL8

2015 - Three - most notably, that’s the last E-M5 model...

(source: DPR product timeline)

I’m not saying they need to introduce something every 6 months, but the last couple of years have been a bit baron.

I only looked because I’m wondering, WHERE IS THE E-m5iii ???

It's coming in Jan/Feb - at least in terms of announcement at least - or so I have been told by our local guys here in NZ.

So next year won't be too "baron" (sic) at least at the upper end of the range.

I heard that two cameras are coming next year.  A mid-level and a flagship level.  I don t know which will be the first one released.  The first one wi be announced in late January for CP+.

Sony has been  'holding back' advanced sensor technology in 4/3 size.

If we had the same rate of sensor advancement as (for example) cell phones we'd have to have new cameras to showcase stacked-BSI, etc.

No need for a steady stream of new bodies with only minor incremental changes.

cpt kent wrote:

I’m not sure it would take manh sales from the E-m1 if they just gave the E-M5 a refresh. 20mpx, 4K, new processor. Done. PDAF, Done.

Harold66 wrote:

It has already been confirmed than the new em5 would come in the first half of 2019

i am awaiting for this model too

Harold

Do you have a link? I don't think anything was confirmed.

Kurgo wrote:

RedDog Steve wrote:

Sony has been 'holding back' advanced sensor technology in 4/3 size.

If we had the same rate of sensor advancement as (for example) cell phones we'd have to have new cameras to showcase stacked-BSI, etc.

No need for a steady stream of new bodies with only minor incremental changes.

More like the sales of m43 have been holding back new developments? Sony makes sensors to earn money, if there was a high enough demand I doubt they'd have to "hold back" on r&d on new m43 sensors. Obviously they'll spend r&d on FF ones because Sony also makes FF cameras (and phone sensors because those sell a billion times more than any camera) but the two divisions aren't the same, each has to earn as much money as possible on their own, so if there was a huge demand for m43 sensors Sony'd be thrilled to get the money for it, I should think.

It was already discussed here too, anyway https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4224636

As was noted in your linked-to thread, Sony Semiconductor (not the camera division) will make most any sensor that Olympus cares to contract for. It’s up to Olympus to determine if there will be enough market demand for their new product, not the other way around. Sony Semiconductor needs to make a profit so will contract for the new Olympus spec’d sensor based on the number of sensors that Olympus commits to purchase. Since Olympus sells fewer cameras than Nikon, for instance, Olympus would only be able to commit to a lessor number of sensors and may have to pay a premium. That premium  cost will be reflected in the roll-out price of the new camera. If one wants the “latest and greatest” sensor technology in an Olympus camera, it will most likely cost you a premium to get it.

jwilliams wrote:

cpt kent wrote:

2018 - One new camera this year - E-PL9

2017 - One last year - E-M10iii

2016 - Three (that’s better) - E-M1ii, Pen F, E-PL8

2015 - Three - most notably, that’s the last E-M5 model...

(source: DPR product timeline)

I’m not saying they need to introduce something every 6 months, but the last couple of years have been a bit baron.

I only looked because I’m wondering, WHERE IS THE E-m5iii ???

to look at that list. For all of 2017 and so far in 2018 all they have done is 'update' 2 cameras while maintaining the very old 16MP sensor. That is a joke really. 2016 seemed like a good year except for the very minimal EPL8 upgrade.

Seems like they have just quit on camera bodies. They have the EM1 II and Pen F with at least semi current tech so I guess they don't care if everything else is way out of date.

Maybe all their effort has been put in the big, heavy, overpriced Pro lenses. Maybe they will get back to making some decent camera bodies for the masses. I doubt it, but one can dream.

I recall reading somewhere that after a new boss turned up they were rethinking the whole EM series i.e. their core mission. If so we’ll see,  and probably some hints at Photokina. Though I hope the EM 10 Mark III isn’t a harbinger.