Improved tripod mount for P1000

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sherman_levine
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I recently suggested that one could use a 150mm plate to reduce torque on the 1/4" tripod socket when the camera is in landscape mode.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4319655

The modification below permits you to use the plate in both portrait and landscape modes

The bottom of the P1K has a small step just proximal to the focus ring

Step 1: Cover the bottom of the camera with a sheet of food wrap to protect it from the epoxy used in step 3. This is important.

Step 2: Remove the two rubber pads from the end of the 150mm plate using a sharp pointy object, and scrape off any residual adhesive

Step 3: Put a glob of epoxy on the end of the 150mm plate and mount the plate to the camera using the endmost slot. Align the plate with the camera axis.

After the epoxy has hardened, remove the plate from the camera and discard the food wrap. You'll end up with something like this. Yours will probably be neater than mine, but the important part is to see the depression which matches the step at the bottom of the camera. You can always add a bit more epoxy if you need it, or scrape off excess with a file or knife.

Step 4: Re-mount the plate in its previous position and fasten it to the camera using cable ties. I use two 12" ties from the local hardware store, but used shorter red ones for the picture so you could seem them more easily

The cable ties should be tight enough to prevent the plate from moving sideways, which is equivalent to "keeping camera's step in the epoxy slot" if you did everything properly

The camera now mounts easily in portrait mode, without overtightening the 1/4" screw and without stress on the cable ties, since the weight is carried by the step in the epoxy slot.

The plate does not interfere with the focus ring rotation.

Hope you find this useful.

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..Thanks for sharing this!

..Cheers..

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Rob Kipp
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This looks good Sherm, thank you.  What make head do you have here?

Rob

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Rob Kipp wrote:

This looks good Sherm, thank you. What make head do you have here?

Rob

It's a Vanguard alta Pro 263AT with this head

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00N2XCPGY

Nothing special about it. Seems to work ok

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sherman_levine wrote:

Rob Kipp wrote:

This looks good Sherm, thank you. What make head do you have here?

Rob

It's a Vanguard alta Pro 263AT with this head

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00N2XCPGY

Nothing special about it. Seems to work ok

Hi Sherman,

Will the Quick Releas Plate you noted earlier fit this head without the adapter?

Thank you-   Rob

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Rob Kipp wrote:

sherman_levine wrote:

Rob Kipp wrote:

This looks good Sherm, thank you. What make head do you have here?

Rob

It's a Vanguard alta Pro 263AT with this head

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00N2XCPGY

Nothing special about it. Seems to work ok

Hi Sherman,

Will the Quick Releas Plate you noted earlier fit this head without the adapter?

Thank you- Rob

Yes.

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Rob Kipp
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sherman_levine wrote:

Hi Sherman,

Will the Quick Releas Plate you noted earlier fit this head without the adapter?

Thank you- Rob

Yes.

Nice, I was able to cancel the adapter I ordeered and got your pan head.

Rob

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mhsvz Junior Member • Posts: 33
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sherman_levine wrote:

I recently suggested that one could use a 150mm plate to reduce torque on the 1/4" tripod socket when the camera is in landscape mode.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4319655

The modification below permits you to use the plate in both portrait and landscape modes

The bottom of the P1K has a small step just proximal to the focus ring

Step 1: Cover the bottom of the camera with a sheet of food wrap to protect it from the epoxy used in step 3. This is important.

Step 2: Remove the two rubber pads from the end of the 150mm plate using a sharp pointy object, and scrape off any residual adhesive

Step 3: Put a glob of epoxy on the end of the 150mm plate and mount the plate to the camera using the endmost slot. Align the plate with the camera axis.

After the epoxy has hardened, remove the plate from the camera and discard the food wrap. You'll end up with something like this. Yours will probably be neater than mine, but the important part is to see the depression which matches the step at the bottom of the camera. You can always add a bit more epoxy if you need it, or scrape off excess with a file or knife.

Step 4: Re-mount the plate in its previous position and fasten it to the camera using cable ties. I use two 12" ties from the local hardware store, but used shorter red ones for the picture so you could seem them more easily

The cable ties should be tight enough to prevent the plate from moving sideways, which is equivalent to "keeping camera's step in the epoxy slot" if you did everything properly

The camera now mounts easily in portrait mode, without overtightening the 1/4" screw and without stress on the cable ties, since the weight is carried by the step in the epoxy slot.

The plate does not interfere with the focus ring rotation.

Hope you find this useful.

Great idea - thank you!

huyzer
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Anyone have a problem with the 1/4 20 hole in the camera?

It seems that when I screw in a plate onto my P1000, it doesn't hold tight as my other cameras, with the same tripod plate and screw.  I don't want to crank down on it (as it's not necessary for other cameras) and risk stripping something.
Thank you,
Huy

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huyzer wrote:

It seems that when I screw in a plate onto my P1000, it doesn't hold tight as my other cameras, with the same tripod plate and screw. I don't want to crank down on it (as it's not necessary for other cameras) and risk stripping something.
Thank you,
Huy

Perhaps the screw is too long.

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Re: Anyone have a problem with the 1/4 20 hole in the camera?

sherman_levine wrote:

huyzer wrote:

It seems that when I screw in a plate onto my P1000, it doesn't hold tight as my other cameras, with the same tripod plate and screw. I don't want to crank down on it (as it's not necessary for other cameras) and risk stripping something.
Thank you,
Huy

Perhaps the screw is too long.

That's an absolutely reasonable deduction.
I went and checked the other two screws they supplied with the Ronin-S gimbal, and they were all the same length from bottom of the head base, to the tip of the screw.  I grabbed a different tripod head plate and noticed the length from bottom of head base to tip of screw, and that was the same, too.  The difference was the thickness of the head.  Bingo!  There's the culprit.  Thank you!  The simplest fix, ever.      I should have really checked this before typing up the question.    Thank you though!!!

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I did something similar but my original intent was to configure my tripod set up so that, when the P1000's lens is fully extended, the center of gravity (CG) of the camera is more nearly over the central axis of the tripod. My particular tripod has a non-Arca Swiss quick release plate so I put together a combination of readily available items to do this.

NOTE: As regards the original post (OP) in this thread, I could do what's described below, substituting a 150mm Hoage QR plate for the 120mm if desired, and then rotate the tripod head to achieve a portrait orientation. On further review, however, that still begs the issue of preventing undue stress on the 1/4"-20 stud.

1) Rock Steady SS Stainless Steel 1/4" to 3/8" Bushing Adapter

2) Haoge 64mm Screw Knob Clamp Adapter Mount for Quick Release (QR) Arca Swiss Plate

3) Haoge 120mm Quick Release Plate With Dual Dovetail and D-Ring Screw

The Bushing Adapter attaches to the 1/4"-20 stud on the non-Arca Swiss QR plate on the tripod. The Clamp Adapter Mount which accepts Arca Swiss QR plates is then attached to it. Finally, the 120mm long QR plate is installed. The slot in it allows the P1000 to be positioned so that the CG of the camera is more nearly over the central axis of tripod with the lens fully extended.

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Re: Anyone have a problem with the 1/4 20 hole in the camera?

bluzman wrote:

2) Haoge 64mm Screw Knob Clamp Adapter Mount for Quick Release (QR) Arca Swiss Plate

3) Haoge 120mm Quick Release Plate With Dual Dovetail and D-Ring Screw

The Bushing Adapter attaches to the 1/4"-20 stud on the non-Arca Swiss QR plate on the tripod. The Clamp Adapter Mount which accepts Arca Swiss QR plates is then attached to it. Finally, the 120mm long QR plate is installed. The slot in it allows the P1000 to be positioned so that the CG of the camera is more nearly over the central axis of tripod with the lens fully extended.

Hello bluzman,
Thank you for taking the time to take the pictures and make the post.  I definitely feel the weight transfer as the lens extends towards the longest setting.
And, boy, does that look long in picture!  I never really noticed it live, as I'm usually behind the camera, but, "Yowzers", that lens is a beast!  xD  Hahahaha
Cheers,
Huy

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Using plastic wrap as a mold-release, is a good trick.  If I did this, I'd use black zip-ties and three of them for the safety of redundancy.

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Stephen McDonald wrote:

Using plastic wrap as a mold-release, is a good trick. If I did this, I'd use black zip-ties and three of them for the safety of redundancy.

Thanks. The red ties were for demonstration only. I do use much heavier black ones.

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KJaay Veteran Member • Posts: 8,224
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Looks like it works well, thank you Sherm!

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Yet another piece of kit that might be modified/adapted to yield a solution.

FOTGA L200 Telephoto Lens Quick Release Plate Long-Focus Support Holder

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DDFY3DZ/?coliid=IHH640U7IT0YJ&colid=2KPHE0F2U0VJ1&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

FOTGA L200 Telephoto Lens Quick Release Plate Long-Focus Support Holder

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Such a mount is easy to make yourself if you possess elementary technical skills, a minimal set of tools in your garage, and a small amount of free time. (For me the last one was the worst. )

I made one for myself after I bought P1000. I have 324RC2 ball head put on my tripod, and the length of the P1000's barrel proved to be too much for it: when I released the handle grip, the image in the viewfinder was shifting down vertically, sometimes even as much as 1/4 of the frame. To avoid it I needed to shift the camera's center of gravity to the back.

I am not going to dive deep into technicalities, only say that I used a standard 6061 aluminum cut to size, and Manfrotto quick release (I have them on all equipment I have; I hate screwing and unscrewing things, especially when the photo subject is moving away while I'm doing it...)

Putting quick release on both ends allowed me to use a camera without it and reconnect it quickly.

(Pictures taken with iPad, only to show the design details, without paying much attention to quality.)

Maybe it's not fancy stylish black, but it's exactly what I wanted, and works pretty well!

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Excellent mount. great idea!

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DAP MV wrote:

Such a mount is easy to make yourself if you possess elementary technical skills, a minimal set of tools in your garage, and a small amount of free time. (For me the last one was the worst. )

I made one for myself after I bought P1000. I have 324RC2 ball head put on my tripod, and the length of the P1000's barrel proved to be too much for it: when I released the handle grip, the image in the viewfinder was shifting down vertically, sometimes even as much as 1/4 of the frame. To avoid it I needed to shift the camera's center of gravity to the back.

I am not going to dive deep into technicalities, only say that I used a standard 6061 aluminum cut to size, and Manfrotto quick release (I have them on all equipment I have; I hate screwing and unscrewing things, especially when the photo subject is moving away while I'm doing it...)

Putting quick release on both ends allowed me to use a camera without it and reconnect it quickly.

(Pictures taken with iPad, only to show the design details, without paying much attention to quality.)

Maybe it's not fancy stylish black, but it's exactly what I wanted, and works pretty well!

The advantage of the long QR plate is that the weight of the camera is divided between the two ends of the plate, and the torque on the mounting bolt is thereby much diminished.

The P900 has had several reports of cracking at the 1/4" bolt mount. I've not seen any for the P1000, but why take the chance?

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