Would a firmware update encourage you to buy the EOS R?

I would add a number six as being very limited AF performance.  As for firmware updates, Canon's record on this is pretty sketchy.  Don't hold your breath waiting on them.

The Fat Fish wrote:

MikeJ9116 wrote:

I would add a number six as being very limited AF performance.

Fair point. Assuming that could be done via firmware, how would you vote?

I don't see the R in my future.  With it I see Canon is either 1) continuing to gimp their cameras to promote market segmentation more than I like or 2) they are so far behind technologically that no amount of firmware upgrades will fix its issues.

I think it is obvious that Canon has major issues with their image processors being very weak.  They have gotten around this by doubling up processors on their higher end cameras.  The fact the R has only one processor shows it is a lower tier R camera and very likely the equivalent of the 6D2 in the lineup.  Expect another R camera soon with two processors and hopefully a much better set of innards having IBIS and much more robust AF and frame rates.

I think Canon is going to try and sell an R model with the capabilities of the A7/3 for the price of the 5D4.  I doubt this will work.

A rumor:

"Functionality being added to the Canon EOS R soon after release with firmware update"

https://www.canonrumors.com/functionality-being-added-to-the-canon-eos-r-soon-after-release-with-firmware-update/

Don Lacy wrote:

MikeJ9116 wrote:

I would add a number six as being very limited AF performance. As for firmware updates, Canon's record on this is pretty sketchy. Don't hold your breath waiting on them.

Are you referring to actual AF or FPS during AF.

It is mostly centered around tracking.  The frames rates are so low that tracking would be easier but eye AF isn't available at all in tracking mode.  It is a one show wonder, literally.

We all need to become accustomed to the idea that mirrorless cameras are mostly in essence computers.  Dslr's are also computers merged with optical/mechanical systems, but mirrorless is even more of a computer.  And like all computers, they can and will be updated with software releases.

Expect this to be the new norm; more software updates for MILC, with more significant features added.

Don Lacy wrote:

MikeJ9116 wrote:

Don Lacy wrote:

MikeJ9116 wrote:

I would add a number six as being very limited AF performance. As for firmware updates, Canon's record on this is pretty sketchy. Don't hold your breath waiting on them.

Are you referring to actual AF or FPS during AF.

It is mostly centered around tracking. The frames rates are so low that tracking would be easier but eye AF isn't available at all in tracking mode. It is a one show wonder, literally.

I was never interested in this camera to begin with it would have had to be on the level of the 1DXMKII speed at a 5D price and sensor to get me to buy it and that was never going to happen. But the FPS in tracking is disappointing.

I can forgive the AF issues more than the fps issues. The AF issues are harder to deal with as a lot of R&D is needed to get it right. However, fps is a straightforward matter and there is no excuse for such abysmal performance in this area.  Maybe the AF is so poor that it keeps the fps so low?

You must not be familiar with firmware updates with the M cameras.  They are as rare as hens' teeth.

MikeJ9116 wrote:

You must not be familiar with firmware updates with the M cameras. They are as rare as hens' teeth.

This is not the M line.  This is Canon's new signature line, the one they are betting their future on.  They've already announced a software update coming.

Thoughts R Us wrote:

MikeJ9116 wrote:

You must not be familiar with firmware updates with the M cameras. They are as rare as hens' teeth.

This is not the M line. This is Canon's new signature line, the one they are betting their future on. They've already announced a software update coming.

It is the only past indicator of future performance in Canon's MILC arena.