What upper limit do you put on iso for the g9 and g85?

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Shadow9d9 Regular Member • Posts: 398
What upper limit do you put on iso for the g9 and g85?

I am new to the m43 systems.  On my fuji xt20, I let it go up to 12800 sometimes.  I've read suggestions to keep it maxed at 3200 on m43.  What do you guys think?

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NZ Scott
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Shadow9d9 wrote:

I am new to the m43 systems. On my fuji xt20, I let it go up to 12800 sometimes. I've read suggestions to keep it maxed at 3200 on m43. What do you guys think?

On my old Olympus E-P3, I used to be reluctant to go past ISO 800.

With my Panasonic GM5 and G85, I happily shoot at ISO 1600.

I'll shoot at ISO 3200 if I have to, but this is very rare.

S

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Adrian Tung Veteran Member • Posts: 3,425
Re: What upper limit do you put on iso for the g9 and g85?
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Different people have different tolerances to quality and noise, so I think you may get varying answers here.

Personally, on auto ISO I don't let it go over 1600, but I may set the ISO manually to as high as needed to get the shot I want.

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Shadow9d9 wrote:

I am new to the m43 systems. On my fuji xt20, I let it go up to 12800 sometimes. I've read suggestions to keep it maxed at 3200 on m43. What do you guys think?

Not owned G9, but the same generation GX85 of G85.

I set the ISO ceiling to 3200, at NR=0, the SOOC jpg can be reasonably clean with optimist exposure. Can touch 6400 but must with great caution.

joeletx Senior Member • Posts: 2,381
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Shadow9d9 wrote:

I am new to the m43 systems. On my fuji xt20, I let it go up to 12800 sometimes. I've read suggestions to keep it maxed at 3200 on m43. What do you guys think?

The difference with the G9 is there is no need to go to 12800 due to its superior IBIS comparing to your XT20. For scenery or portrait, you can shoot the G9 at 1600 instead of 12800 on the XT20 and still maintain at least 3 stop advantage, i.e. 1/15 sec. instead of 1/120 sec. with same aperture.

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dbelling Regular Member • Posts: 341
Re: What upper limit do you put on iso for the g9 and g85?
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joeletx wrote:

Shadow9d9 wrote:

I am new to the m43 systems. On my fuji xt20, I let it go up to 12800 sometimes. I've read suggestions to keep it maxed at 3200 on m43. What do you guys think?

The difference with the G9 is there is no need to go to 12800 due to its superior IBIS comparing to your XT20. For scenery or portrait, you can shoot the G9 at 1600 instead of 12800 on the XT20 and still maintain at least 3 stop advantage, i.e. 1/15 sec. instead of 1/120 sec. with same aperture.

True, as long as you can keep  you shutter speed low. However, if you have to shoot at 1/1000 second or faster because of fast action you may have to raise your ISO to 3200 or 6400. Especially if you are shooting in lower light. This is the dilemma if you are not using a FF camera (which I do not own).

Regards, Dave

joeletx Senior Member • Posts: 2,381
Re: What upper limit do you put on iso for the g9 and g85?

dbelling wrote:

joeletx wrote:

Shadow9d9 wrote:

I am new to the m43 systems. On my fuji xt20, I let it go up to 12800 sometimes. I've read suggestions to keep it maxed at 3200 on m43. What do you guys think?

The difference with the G9 is there is no need to go to 12800 due to its superior IBIS comparing to your XT20. For scenery or portrait, you can shoot the G9 at 1600 instead of 12800 on the XT20 and still maintain at least 3 stop advantage, i.e. 1/15 sec. instead of 1/120 sec. with same aperture.

True, as long as you can keep you shutter speed low. However, if you have to shoot at 1/1000 second or faster because of fast action you may have to raise your ISO to 3200 or 6400. Especially if you are shooting in lower light. This is the dilemma if you are not using a FF camera (which I do not own).

Regards, Dave

It is not a dilemma if you know your gears strengths and limitations. You will learn technique to overcome shortcomings. No system is perfect in my opinion. Regardless, take a look at this thread by Vass.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/60524875

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Osa25 Senior Member • Posts: 1,610
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Best to not oversell the product. Everything has pros and cons. Moving subject may require high shutter speed in which case this is not your ideal system for dim light. It has it’s strengths and so too weaknesses. Horses for courses...

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G1Houston Senior Member • Posts: 2,727
Need a minimum of 1/125 sec to shoot people
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Just because people move around, lip moves while talking, slight moving of the hands and head, etc.  We are not talking about people in excise or sport, just normal social situations, a very common subjects for all cameras.

Thus the values of IBIS or any IS are often greatly exaggerated.

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I have the G80 (G85) and I try to stick to the upper limit of 1600, though I do think its more important to get the shot than worry about a bit of noise, so will stretch it if I absolutely have to and worry about fixing a bit of noise in post.

Fundamentally, I think a lot of people miss the point entirely - when a photo makes you look twice because it really catches your eye, the last thing I'd really be concerned about is a bit of noise.

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Badwater Senior Member • Posts: 1,244
Re: What upper limit do you put on iso for the g9 and g85?

Shadow9d9 wrote:

I am new to the m43 systems. On my fuji xt20, I let it go up to 12800 sometimes. I've read suggestions to keep it maxed at 3200 on m43. What do you guys think?

Depending on the camera and personal taste.  I can get away with more for video than photo.  Thus, I keep the high limit at 6400 on the G9.  However if the lighting and detail is good, I'll shoot 12800 for photo.

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Re: ISO 6400 after PP
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Shadow9d9 wrote:

I am new to the m43 systems. On my fuji xt20, I let it go up to 12800 sometimes. I've read suggestions to keep it maxed at 3200 on m43. What do you guys think?

With the G9, don't pixelpeep !

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mwyyc Regular Member • Posts: 143
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WhatSteveDid wrote:

Fundamentally, I think a lot of people miss the point entirely - when a photo makes you look twice because it really catches your eye, the last thing I'd really be concerned about is a bit of noise.

This phrase needs to be plastered on the top of every gear review site's front page in big bold letters.

NZ Scott
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joeletx wrote:

Shadow9d9 wrote:

I am new to the m43 systems. On my fuji xt20, I let it go up to 12800 sometimes. I've read suggestions to keep it maxed at 3200 on m43. What do you guys think?

The difference with the G9 is there is no need to go to 12800 due to its superior IBIS comparing to your XT20.

This is only true when photographing static subjects at slow shutter speeds.

Also, there are at least nine lenses available for the Fuji that are stabilised.

S

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joeletx Senior Member • Posts: 2,381
Re: Static subjects only

NZ Scott wrote:

joeletx wrote:

Shadow9d9 wrote:

I am new to the m43 systems. On my fuji xt20, I let it go up to 12800 sometimes. I've read suggestions to keep it maxed at 3200 on m43. What do you guys think?

The difference with the G9 is there is no need to go to 12800 due to its superior IBIS comparing to your XT20.

This is only true when photographing static subjects at slow shutter speeds.

Also, there are at least nine lenses available for the Fuji that are stabilised.

S

Fuji OIS lenses are no match for G9 5-1/2 stop IBIS. True for static subjects, but with Fuji, you have no choice but to raise the ISO.

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