Huawei P20 Pro

Well, I have to admit this model is the best smartphone I have purchased to date, being an iPhone junky for years up to the iPhone 7plus. It was a very hard decision to tear myself away from Apple, but I argued with myself why am I continuing to be a loyal customer when they can't manage to excel in the camera section with any of their new releases, which to me is a key important factor of any smartphone.

This P20 Pro model is outstanding in the picture department.... The quality of an image is so good regardless of lighting conditions & the diversity of the settings available to the user far outways the competitors in this market. I've been using it for the last two month in various locations & where light has been very varied, the only slight niggle is the preset for the green channel can be overdone in some conditions but this easy rectified in the settings.

The phone itself is fast, has a good battery life & quick charging  It also feels good in the hand.

If you are coming from an iPhone to this model, it will take a bit longer to navigate around the phone until you get used to the OS.

I have no regrets in changing over to this smartphone, just hope it holds up to wear/tear as my previous iPhones have.

I have no regrets in changing over to this smartphone, just hope it holds up to wear/tear as my previous iPhones have.

You certainly wont see anywhere near the level of support, security patches, and OS updates you are used to with apple.

liopleurodon wrote:

I have no regrets in changing over to this smartphone, just hope it holds up to wear/tear as my previous iPhones have.

You certainly wont see anywhere near the level of support, security patches, and OS updates you are used to with apple.

It's obvious you don't know much about Huawei phones. There are 5 firmware upgrades since May. And Huawei is already doing beta testing on Android Pie and expect to roll out soon for the P20 series.

ChuckTa wrote:

liopleurodon wrote:

I have no regrets in changing over to this smartphone, just hope it holds up to wear/tear as my previous iPhones have.

You certainly wont see anywhere near the level of support, security patches, and OS updates you are used to with apple.

It's obvious you don't know much about Huawei phones. There are 5 firmware upgrades since May. And Huawei is already doing beta testing on Android Pie and expect to roll out soon for the P20 series.

I've had Pie for over a month now. That's a hell of a lot better than "soon". I know plenty about Huawei. I know they still have that POS EMUI skin. I know they aren't going to support the p20 with 3 years of timely updates and monthly security patches. Hell the first OS update is already a month and a half late. How fast you think they'll ship Android 10 next fall? Will they even bother? How many of their last year's phones have Pie now? How many of those have a snowballs chance of seeing 10 in the same calendar year it releases?

And compared to what Apple does?  Apple's on a different level when it comes to support.  My 2014 iPad will be getting iOS 12 today, day of release. It's 4 years old and still getting updates on day of release. Nobody can touch that. It'll get iOS 13 next year as well. I don't like iOS as an OS but Apple supports their products at an unparalleled level.

liopleurodon wrote:

ChuckTa wrote:

liopleurodon wrote:

I have no regrets in changing over to this smartphone, just hope it holds up to wear/tear as my previous iPhones have.

You certainly wont see anywhere near the level of support, security patches, and OS updates you are used to with apple.

It's obvious you don't know much about Huawei phones. There are 5 firmware upgrades since May. And Huawei is already doing beta testing on Android Pie and expect to roll out soon for the P20 series.

I've had Pie for over a month now. That's a hell of a lot better than "soon". I know plenty about Huawei. I know they still have that POS EMUI skin. I know they aren't going to support the p20 with 3 years of timely updates and monthly security patches. Hell the first OS update is already a month and a half late. How fast you think they'll ship Android 10 next fall? Will they even bother? How many of their last year's phones have Pie now? How many of those have a snowballs chance of seeing 10 in the same calendar year it releases?

And compared to what Apple does? Apple's on a different level when it comes to support. My 2014 iPad will be getting iOS 12 today, day of release. It's 4 years old and still getting updates on day of release. Nobody can touch that. It'll get iOS 13 next year as well. I don't like iOS as an OS but Apple supports their products at an unparalleled level.

For me, Huawei support so far is better than the Samsung s7 I had before. So that is good enough for me.

The P20 Pro camera however, can easily beat any Iphone. I was on a trip with a group of family (there are a couple of Iphone X) and anytime low light group shot was needed. They will ask for my P20 Pro. You can't beat physics, a 1/1.7 sensor + a monochrome for image output vs the Iphone X tiny 1/2.9inch. The newer Iphone has bigger sensor equal to the Samsung S7-S9, but for what price?

You can read more about Huawei quad bayer sensor here.

https://www.gsmarena.com/explaining_huawei_p20_pros_triple_camera-news-30497.php

Jostian wrote:

liopleurodon wrote:

ChuckTa wrote:

liopleurodon wrote:

I have no regrets in changing over to this smartphone, just hope it holds up to wear/tear as my previous iPhones have.

You certainly wont see anywhere near the level of support, security patches, and OS updates you are used to with apple.

It's obvious you don't know much about Huawei phones. There are 5 firmware upgrades since May. And Huawei is already doing beta testing on Android Pie and expect to roll out soon for the P20 series.

I've had Pie for over a month now. That's a hell of a lot better than "soon". I know plenty about Huawei. I know they still have that POS EMUI skin. I know they aren't going to support the p20 with 3 years of timely updates and monthly security patches. Hell the first OS update is already a month and a half late. How fast you think they'll ship Android 10 next fall? Will they even bother? How many of their last year's phones have Pie now? How many of those have a snowballs chance of seeing 10 in the same calendar year it releases?

And compared to what Apple does? Apple's on a different level when it comes to support. My 2014 iPad will be getting iOS 12 today, day of release. It's 4 years old and still getting updates on day of release. Nobody can touch that. It'll get iOS 13 next year as well. I don't like iOS as an OS but Apple supports their products at an unparalleled level.

Yes Apple will always have that edge in terms of updates etc, but seriously, the benefits of Android in terms of flexibility, customisation, and way better cameras far outweigh the updates issue. I've been on Android for 2 years and have never had any update related issues. But I hated my iPhone 7 which I couldn't do that or this, or had to connect to iTunes first, cant have widgets, etc. I understand the benefits of a 'closed' system, and for some that's cool, but I want flexibility to do what I want, not be bound by the limitations of my phone... irrespective if there are some perceived benefits to that control by Apple. I will never go back until Apple put some of the control in the hands of the owners, not just the OS.

I don't disagree and I prefer Android when it's on a Google device.  I'm not an Apple fanboy; I just have a huge amount of respect for the security and longevity of an iOS device.  My tablet is an iPad mini 4 solely because it has no Android competitor matching my requirements (I wanted 300+ ppi "print" resolution, an LTE radio, security updates and a color accurate screen).  My personal phone is a Google Pixel 2.  Google promises 3 years of updates and I hope they'll go for more.   But I'd buy an iPhone and live with its limitations rather than get a Samsung or Huawei (unless of course they were Android One devices).  My phone is more than a camera it's also got enough access to my personal information to effectively steal my identity.  Updates to patch vulnerabilities are paramount.  I can't accept updates coming months or sometimes over a year late and no updates past the phone's 2nd birthday.

This phone is a beast.  Great camera, super fast, crazy battery.  I took this image to 13x19 and it was awesome.

I would never go to a proprietary system like Apple.  Android is so much more flexible and I've never had an update issue on any phone that I owned.  Plus I'm not tied to one machine

The more competitive market  the better for the user.

Jostian wrote:

liopleurodon wrote:

Jostian wrote:

liopleurodon wrote:

ChuckTa wrote:

liopleurodon wrote:

I have no regrets in changing over to this smartphone, just hope it holds up to wear/tear as my previous iPhones have.

You certainly wont see anywhere near the level of support, security patches, and OS updates you are used to with apple.

It's obvious you don't know much about Huawei phones. There are 5 firmware upgrades since May. And Huawei is already doing beta testing on Android Pie and expect to roll out soon for the P20 series.

I've had Pie for over a month now. That's a hell of a lot better than "soon". I know plenty about Huawei. I know they still have that POS EMUI skin. I know they aren't going to support the p20 with 3 years of timely updates and monthly security patches. Hell the first OS update is already a month and a half late. How fast you think they'll ship Android 10 next fall? Will they even bother? How many of their last year's phones have Pie now? How many of those have a snowballs chance of seeing 10 in the same calendar year it releases?

And compared to what Apple does? Apple's on a different level when it comes to support. My 2014 iPad will be getting iOS 12 today, day of release. It's 4 years old and still getting updates on day of release. Nobody can touch that. It'll get iOS 13 next year as well. I don't like iOS as an OS but Apple supports their products at an unparalleled level.

Yes Apple will always have that edge in terms of updates etc, but seriously, the benefits of Android in terms of flexibility, customisation, and way better cameras far outweigh the updates issue. I've been on Android for 2 years and have never had any update related issues. But I hated my iPhone 7 which I couldn't do that or this, or had to connect to iTunes first, cant have widgets, etc. I understand the benefits of a 'closed' system, and for some that's cool, but I want flexibility to do what I want, not be bound by the limitations of my phone... irrespective if there are some perceived benefits to that control by Apple. I will never go back until Apple put some of the control in the hands of the owners, not just the OS.

I don't disagree and I prefer Android when it's on a Google device. I'm not an Apple fan boy; I just have a huge amount of respect for the security and longevity of an iOS device. My tablet is an iPad mini 4 solely because it has no Android competitor matching my requirements (I wanted 300+ ppi "print" resolution, an LTE radio, security updates and a color accurate screen). My personal phone is a Google Pixel 2. Google promises 3 years of updates and I hope they'll go for more. But I'd buy an iPhone and live with its limitations rather than get a Samsung or Huawei (unless of course they were Android One devices). My phone is more than a camera it's also got enough access to my personal information to effectively steal my identity. Updates to patch vulnerabilities are paramount. I can't accept updates coming months or sometimes over a year late and no updates past the phone's 2nd birthday.

I'm on a Samsung S8+ and have had security patch updates monthly (or maybe 6 weekly) since I got it... no issues with updates at all. I know for the more lower end and mid tier phones the updates are less frequent though.

And what version of Android are you running?  Latest and greatest?

The reality is that Apple continues to update a 2013 phone, the iPhone 5S.  It runs IOS 12 day of release.  This device was a contemporary of the Samsung S4.  When's the last time it saw an update?  Google is just now going to discontinue support for the 2015 Nexus 5x, which was a contemporary of the S6.  When was the S6's last update?