Hey gang - don't even consider selling your NX gear...

There isn't one current body so complete right now, and especially for us that consider full frame cameras unnecessary.

A7iii is very good spec wise, but I will pass (easily) this generation too, and a6xxx ia not even close. Rather keep my NX500.

The real good mirrorless cameras are coming, and they are from the old players, Canon and Nikon. BUT, they aren't out yet, we do not know their video capabilities yet and they will have new mounts, that means uncertainty and high lens prices, and limited lens options for at least half a decade.

As I have "predicted" before, NX1 will be near the top on its segment until 2020. This is still the top APS-C mirrorless camera to beat.

I own and use professionally:

a7RIII (had NEX7, a7R, a7RII)

a99II (had a900, a99, a77II)

But I've held on to my two NX-1's because they're so much fun to use by comparison to the Sony's. a7RIII touch screen is a joke by comparison to NX-1. Can't do anything except tap on a focus point... That's it, with no indication of where you tapped.

NX-1 always highlights AF point. a7RIII focus points always grey and hard to see. a99II has illuminated yellow AF points but only in a special mode that must often be reset.

NX-1 formats cards ten times faster than any Sony. It's so fast, and the buffer clears faster than a7RIII even when it's in 18mp crop mode.

NX-1 is always ready for stills and movie simultaneously. I have front button set for movie preview mode for instant access. The Sony's require turning the mode dial 180degree just to see movie preview. And the Sony mode dial requires holding down center lock button while turning. NX-1 mode dial convenient with spring lock on or off for safety or quick turn.

NX-1 with battery grip allows hot swapping battery while recording movie. Sony's use the smoke stack battery grip, which holds two batts, but no hot swap because no battery remains in the body. Handy for extended time lapse.

Speaking of time lapse, the NX-1 has sophisticated time lapse built right into the body. Sony's lost stills time lapse because they no longer support their own Play Memories app store. Many users very miffed.

NX-1 movie time lapse retains 4K ability, and let me tell you it is phenomenal. The Sony's ramp down to 1080HD for movie time lapse with no 4K available.

Sony still doesn't make 16-50/2.8 for Emount. That's crazy, but they make a nice one for AMount. The NX 16-60 is better than the Sony AMount version because it doesn't wobble the frame when focusing.

NX-1 AF is equal to a7RIII, and very close to the a99II which is better than all of them.

NX-1 Gamma Control gets close to emulating Sony SLog2 mode.

NX-1 allows both manual and/or auto gain control for external microphones. Sony is ridiculously stupid in this regard, with only manual gain for built in mic, or forced to auto gain with any mic attached to fancy MIS shoe. It should be the other way around. You spend an extra $100 on matched MIS mic and are forced into auto audio gain. It's so frustrating.

NX-1 hack beyond 30 minutes is super cool, and makes movie time lapse a real joy and so easily managed.

Never once an overheating warning or shut down from NX-1. The Sony's run hot, but at least a7RIII doesn't shut down like the a7RII did.

NX-1 Remote Camera Control allows use of both stills and video from same screen. Sony's Remote Camera Control are dependent upon and locked into whatever mode the camera is set for. Can't shoot movies and stills from same screen.

NX-1 startup from off is wicked fast compared to any Sony. NX-1 ready to go before I get camera to my eye. Sony's have to wake up, but a7RIII has gotten better. NX-1 still faster.

NX-1 grip still more comfy than a7RIII, and doesn't have any knuckle cramping. a7RIII with some fatter lenses is painful to hold at side because the sharp edge of lens bites into knuckles. Forget using gloves with the Sony EMount. Not going to happen. AMount a99II grip is awesome with better vertical grip comfort too. but NX-1 still more comfy in horizontal.

NX-1 video sharpness is noticeably better than either Sony.  NX-1 video is so sharp that it's hard to describe by comparison.  No problem stealing still screen shots from NX-1 video.  I'm still amazed every time I see it.  Best when converted by Samsung Movie Converter, which is far better than importing h.265 directly into Premiere Pro.  I always go through the conversion because the black point is much better.

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Yes, there are some things and quirks that I'd like to see refined on NX-1, but all could be accomplished in FW. NX-1 still far ahead of the game than the latest cameras can provide for.

I'd be tempted to sell the Sony's if the Samsung could support Flashpoint HSS strobe system. And the Sony Cine lenses are unmatched.

kypfer wrote:

Please define "dynamic color tonality".

I can't.  But I will say that my Sony's seem orange biased.  I'm consistently toning them down to a cooler render.  Most apparent with Adobe RAW.  Capture ONE plays them cooler, so it could be the software.

NX-1 color naturally cooler, and seemingly more neutral from Adobe RAW.  My Capture ONE won't process the NX-1 RAW so I can't compare fully.

I can't say one is better than the other.  But they are different.

Clyde Thomas wrote:

I own and use professionally:

a7RIII (had NEX7, a7R, a7RII)

a99II (had a900, a99, a77II)

But I've held on to my two NX-1's because they're so much fun to use by comparison to the Sony's. a7RIII touch screen is a joke by comparison to NX-1. Can't do anything except tap on a focus point... That's it, with no indication of where you tapped.

NX-1 always highlights AF point. a7RIII focus points always grey and hard to see. a99II has illuminated yellow AF points but only in a special mode that must often be reset.

NX-1 formats cards ten times faster than any Sony. It's so fast, and the buffer clears faster than a7RIII even when it's in 18mp crop mode.

NX-1 is always ready for stills and movie simultaneously. I have front button set for movie preview mode for instant access. The Sony's require turning the mode dial 180degree just to see movie preview. And the Sony mode dial requires holding down center lock button while turning. NX-1 mode dial convenient with spring lock on or off for safety or quick turn.

NX-1 with battery grip allows hot swapping battery while recording movie. Sony's use the smoke stack battery grip, which holds two batts, but no hot swap because no battery remains in the body. Handy for extended time lapse.

Speaking of time lapse, the NX-1 has sophisticated time lapse built right into the body. Sony's lost stills time lapse because they no longer support their own Play Memories app store. Many users very miffed.

NX-1 movie time lapse retains 4K ability, and let me tell you it is phenomenal. The Sony's ramp down to 1080HD for movie time lapse with no 4K available.

Sony still doesn't make 16-50/2.8 for Emount. That's crazy, but they make a nice one for AMount. The NX 16-60 is better than the Sony AMount version because it doesn't wobble the frame when focusing.

NX-1 AF is equal to a7RIII, and very close to the a99II which is better than all of them.

NX-1 Gamma Control gets close to emulating Sony SLog2 mode.

NX-1 allows both manual and/or auto gain control for external microphones. Sony is ridiculously stupid in this regard, with only manual gain for built in mic, or forced to auto gain with any mic attached to fancy MIS shoe. It should be the other way around. You spend an extra $100 on matched MIS mic and are forced into auto audio gain. It's so frustrating.

NX-1 hack beyond 30 minutes is super cool, and makes movie time lapse a real joy and so easily managed.

Never once an overheating warning or shut down from NX-1. The Sony's run hot, but at least a7RIII doesn't shut down like the a7RII did.

NX-1 Remote Camera Control allows use of both stills and video from same screen. Sony's Remote Camera Control are dependent upon and locked into whatever mode the camera is set for. Can't shoot movies and stills from same screen.

NX-1 startup from off is wicked fast compared to any Sony. NX-1 ready to go before I get camera to my eye. Sony's have to wake up, but a7RIII has gotten better. NX-1 still faster.

NX-1 grip still more comfy than a7RIII, and doesn't have any knuckle cramping. a7RIII with some fatter lenses is painful to hold at side because the sharp edge of lens bites into knuckles. Forget using gloves with the Sony EMount. Not going to happen. AMount a99II grip is awesome with better vertical grip comfort too. but NX-1 still more comfy in horizontal.

NX-1 video sharpness is noticeably better than either Sony. NX-1 video is so sharp that it's hard to describe by comparison. No problem stealing still screen shots from NX-1 video. I'm still amazed every time I see it. Best when converted by Samsung Movie Converter, which is far better than importing h.265 directly into Premiere Pro. I always go through the conversion because the black point is much better.

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Yes, there are some things and quirks that I'd like to see refined on NX-1, but all could be accomplished in FW. NX-1 still far ahead of the game than the latest cameras can provide for.

I'd be tempted to sell the Sony's if the Samsung could support Flashpoint HSS strobe system. And the Sony Cine lenses are unmatched.

Thank you Clyde. This is an excellent comparison. Really spot on.

I am using most of the newer cameras every year, and NX1 still surprises me everytime.

In my opinion best ergonomics and (touch) UI ever.

I still can't believe how they did it with their first try, it is truly astonishing if you think about it.

My worst flaw is the lack of zoom to focus ability while recording video, that was a silly mistake to do on such a powerful camera.

Samsung has great colors and the NX1 was remarkable.  I had the full set of NX gear but exited.

Fuji is the new bearer of all of those wonderful Samsung characteristics but with actual support and reliability.

I believed in the “there’s no reason to upgrade” until my NX500 got stuck in the boot loop with no way to reset the camera. A true brick that stopped taking pictures for no good reason and no longer had any support from Samsung whatsoever.

If Samsung was going out of business, I probably would not be as upset but for a conglomerate, it is unacceptable in comparison to Kyocera and Contax which provided a decade of support after deciding to pull out of the camera market.

Pick up a Fuji X-H1.  It have not have h265 4K but it’s the best transition from Samsung.

GXAlan wrote:

Samsung has great colors and the NX1 was remarkable. I had the full set of NX gear but exited.

Fuji is the new bearer of all of those wonderful Samsung characteristics but with actual support and reliability.

I believed in the “there’s no reason to upgrade” until my NX500 got stuck in the boot loop with no way to reset the camera. A true brick that stopped taking pictures for no good reason and no longer had any support from Samsung whatsoever.

If Samsung was going out of business, I probably would not be as upset but for a conglomerate, it is unacceptable in comparison to Kyocera and Contax which provided a decade of support after deciding to pull out of the camera market.

Pick up a Fuji X-H1. It have not have h265 4K but it’s the best transition from Samsung.

Did you try a servicing center? They are still servicing the 30s and the 300s here.

H1 is far far away from an NX1, the only thing it has is IBIS, in everything else is inferior in any way, and the proof will be when the X-T3 will be out, your H1 will be almost obsolete!

I've got an X-T2 and never use it. My NX1 is just a much better tool for me. 
I sold all my NX gear right when the A7III was announced because I feared the bottom would fall out of the pricing and I could circle back and pick it up when the prices settled.
And that's exactly what I did. You can get an NX1 with a 16-50S for around $1200 if you're patient. The comparable A7III would be around $4000.
And I still haven't found anything that's nearly as enjoyable to use.

Kisaha wrote:

Did you try a servicing center? They are still servicing the 30s and the 300s here.

where is “here” for you?  In the US, they dropped all support.

H1 is far far away from an NX1, the only thing it has is IBIS, in everything else is inferior in any way, and the proof will be when the X-T3 will be out, your H1 will be almost obsolete!

I had the NX1, a Luca NX-L, 10, 12-24, 30, 45, 16-50S, 50-150, 85 and a pair of SEF 580 flashes.  Also the NX500 and kit lens.  So I was very familiar with the NX line up and even wrote about it for SLRLounge.

Fuji X-H1 in use is not a major “upgrade” from NX1 but it is a good replacement if you need actual warranty support and service in the US.  It is impressive that Samsung has such a lead but the rest of the industry has caught up enough, except for H265.

Sensor wise it is a lateral move (fewer MP better DR). Fuji’s S lens equivalents are good.  More lens options with Fuji.  Longer focal lengths with Fuji.  Very good video with Fuji (at costlier storage).  More reliable iOS support.

I am not convincing you to drop your NX1.  I am just letting the crowd know that when you no longer can get your NX1 serviced where you live, look into the XH1 and ignore the random blogs that complain that it is not as good as the A7 III.  We all stuck with Samsung for Samsung-colors—- if you appreciate Samsung color, it is hard to work with Sony.

Did you buy a new gimbal yet Kisaha? Ive settled on the crane 2 to accomodate the nx1 with the 16-50mm S. And yes the nx1 video is why i bought another. Here’s a quick test i did with the 60mm lens https://youtu.be/sZSEo-I3ZRI

Hienc wrote:

Did you buy a new gimbal yet Kisaha? Ive settled on the crane 2 to accomodate the nx1 with the 16-50mm S. And yes the nx1 video is why i bought another. Here’s a quick test i did with the 60mm lens https://youtu.be/sZSEo-I3ZRI

No, I was waiting for the DJI one, but it seems too big and heavy.

Crane 2 seems like the best option right now, but not optimal for my needs, so I will be waiting for a new smaller Crane I guess (I am trying to keep my equipment fairly mobile).

Most of my shots consist of tripod shots anyway!

Not a big fun of IBIS either.

With a steady hand, and/or the use of a monopod, or even the camera strap on your neck, one can achieve very stable shots in slow motion.

My next imaging-buy (I am spending most of my budget for sound these days) will probably be the new Mavic Pro 2 with the 1" sensor. Can't wait for its release!

Nice images and lovely dogs, by the way!