If E-PL9 Had 5 AXIS Stabilization...

...would the camera stay the same size, or does 5 Axis stabilization require a larger body?

I do wish it had 5 axis, though, I'd buy at least one.

Tom

Guy Parsons wrote:

kitsap2 wrote:

...would the camera stay the same size, or does 5 Axis stabilization require a larger body?

I suspect so, but have no real knowledge on that. I think it's possibly more of a feature restriction and marketing thing on the "lesser" bodies.

I suspect that it's more important to head for an electronic shutter ability.

I do wish it had 5 axis, though, I'd buy at least one.

Tom

No, Tom, the E-PL9 and the E-M10 Mk3 are the latest in the Olympus "beginner" stream of crippled cameras. The E-PL8 is the last of the genuine and familiar Oly Pens. Otherwise a bunch o' bucks and move to the Pen-F for that traditional Pen shape and 5 axis IBIS, and complete menu sets.

Anyone who has become used to Oly menus would find endless frustration with the E-PL9 and E-M10 Mk3 as they just are not the same as before. Too many menu items have disappeared or have been restricted to certain modes.

Regards....... Guy

The 3 axis is still pretty good. I wrote and complained about the dumbed down features and I actually got a phone call. I expressed my displeasure with the neutering of the E-PL9 and EM10 MK III. The gentleman I spoke to said he would pass it along to corporate in Japan. He said he felt it was a marketing a decision. The more of us complain, who knows? Maybe a future firmware update. I can hope! The E-PL9 is a nice camera for the occasional use. Yes, I would love an EVF and the standard Oly menus but I like the size and built in flash for those times that I want a little bit of fill.

Except with the brand, can a GX85 meets with your requirement and more feature set?

Guy Parsons wrote:

kitsap2 wrote:

...would the camera stay the same size, or does 5 Axis stabilization require a larger body?

I suspect so, but have no real knowledge on that. I think it's possibly more of a feature restriction and marketing thing on the "lesser" bodies.

I suspect that it's more important to head for an electronic shutter ability.

I do wish it had 5 axis, though, I'd buy at least one.

Tom

No, Tom, the E-PL9 and the E-M10 Mk3 are the latest in the Olympus "beginner" stream of crippled cameras. The E-PL8 is the last of the genuine and familiar Oly Pens. Otherwise a bunch o' bucks and move to the Pen-F for that traditional Pen shape and 5 axis IBIS, and complete menu sets.

Anyone who has become used to Oly menus would find endless frustration with the E-PL9 and E-M10 Mk3 as they just are not the same as before. Too many menu items have disappeared or have been restricted to certain modes.

Regards....... Guy

Thanks, Guy!  Though I have the E-M5II, and I really like that camera a lot, I still use my E-PL5 as the tiny kit camera to grab-on-the-go with the P12-32mm & O40-150 plastic wonder lens.

Yes, I have thought about pony-ing up the $$ for the PEN F, among the 5 axis choices in a range finder style cam.  The Pany GX85 is still in the offing, as well :), and at a decent discount, too!

Always great getting your input, Guy!

Tom

alcelc wrote:

Except with the brand, can a GX85 meets with your requirement and more feature set?

Hi Albert, yes, the GX85 is a contender for replacing my E-PL5.  I may just order one today!

Thanks for replying,

Tom

BruceRH wrote:

Guy Parsons wrote:

kitsap2 wrote:

...would the camera stay the same size, or does 5 Axis stabilization require a larger body?

I suspect so, but have no real knowledge on that. I think it's possibly more of a feature restriction and marketing thing on the "lesser" bodies.

I suspect that it's more important to head for an electronic shutter ability.

I do wish it had 5 axis, though, I'd buy at least one.

Tom

No, Tom, the E-PL9 and the E-M10 Mk3 are the latest in the Olympus "beginner" stream of crippled cameras. The E-PL8 is the last of the genuine and familiar Oly Pens. Otherwise a bunch o' bucks and move to the Pen-F for that traditional Pen shape and 5 axis IBIS, and complete menu sets.

Anyone who has become used to Oly menus would find endless frustration with the E-PL9 and E-M10 Mk3 as they just are not the same as before. Too many menu items have disappeared or have been restricted to certain modes.

Regards....... Guy

The 3 axis is still pretty good. I wrote and complained about the dumbed down features and I actually got a phone call. I expressed my displeasure with the neutering of the E-PL9 and EM10 MK III. The gentleman I spoke to said he would pass it along to corporate in Japan. He said he felt it was a marketing a decision. The more of us complain, who knows? Maybe a future firmware update. I can hope! The E-PL9 is a nice camera for the occasional use. Yes, I would love an EVF and the standard Oly menus but I like the size and built in flash for those times that I want a little bit of fill.

That fact that Olympus called you is really refreshing to hear, Bruce!  Did you send them an email, or their online, "Complaint Department", or a snail-mail letter?

Maybe they do need to hear from the rest of us.

Thanks for your input

Tom

kitsap2 wrote:

BruceRH wrote:

Guy Parsons wrote:

kitsap2 wrote:

...would the camera stay the same size, or does 5 Axis stabilization require a larger body?

I suspect so, but have no real knowledge on that. I think it's possibly more of a feature restriction and marketing thing on the "lesser" bodies.

I suspect that it's more important to head for an electronic shutter ability.

I do wish it had 5 axis, though, I'd buy at least one.

Tom

No, Tom, the E-PL9 and the E-M10 Mk3 are the latest in the Olympus "beginner" stream of crippled cameras. The E-PL8 is the last of the genuine and familiar Oly Pens. Otherwise a bunch o' bucks and move to the Pen-F for that traditional Pen shape and 5 axis IBIS, and complete menu sets.

Anyone who has become used to Oly menus would find endless frustration with the E-PL9 and E-M10 Mk3 as they just are not the same as before. Too many menu items have disappeared or have been restricted to certain modes.

Regards....... Guy

The 3 axis is still pretty good. I wrote and complained about the dumbed down features and I actually got a phone call. I expressed my displeasure with the neutering of the E-PL9 and EM10 MK III. The gentleman I spoke to said he would pass it along to corporate in Japan. He said he felt it was a marketing a decision. The more of us complain, who knows? Maybe a future firmware update. I can hope! The E-PL9 is a nice camera for the occasional use. Yes, I would love an EVF and the standard Oly menus but I like the size and built in flash for those times that I want a little bit of fill.

That fact that Olympus called you is really refreshing to hear, Bruce! Did you send them an email, or their online, "Complaint Department", or a snail-mail letter?

Maybe they do need to hear from the rest of us.

Thanks for your input

Tom

I sent them an email, they responded, I followed up and then I got a phone call. The gentleman I spoke with was very nice and agreed that the simplification of the menus might have gone too far.