Why do I need a G9

Or the G10 or EM-1 MKIII in the same time and get a significant leap over the G80 - which is still producing great images.

No man, that's a $1,000 iPhone with a $250 plastic case - almost the same price and it makes / takes phone calls and text messages.

2X what I spent on my first car. Today I'd have my girlfriend drive me.

rashid7 wrote:

i rather doubt it. U will be lucky if it goes for $1350 in a year

We’ll see

paul cool wrote:

hindesite wrote:

Trevor Carpenter wrote:

I've held off for a year but temptation is staring me in the face but I'm still not quite there.

I never thought a G9 was worth double a G80 but with all the deals it is much less of a jump.

One of my reasons for holding back is that I like to own two bodies and I would never have been able to justify £3000. I'll only buy one now, I'm very happy with my G80 but one day the two G9s options will at least be an option.

A lot of my doubts are because I feel that I have never been overwhelmed by posted G9 pictures and have seen little that I think was unachievable with my G80.

TBH, on casual inspection I haven't seen many images taken with a G9, that are better than the same subjects I've taken with the E-P1. I don't think you can blame the G9 for that.

I think in terms of IQ we are facing diminishing returns on expenditure - probably not so when considering features and ergonomics.

You think a G9 might help you win photo challenges or something?

Here are some of mine with the g9 the boobok (owl) at iso 4000 would like to see your ep1 version,

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Oooh, triggered. Please don't take my comment so personally. You don't need to justify the G9 to me, and certainly just focusing on the camera specs doesn't help at all.

The E-P1 is barely capable of shooting above ISO400. It won't shoot 4K. No EVF. Minimal to useless IBIS. Poor AF. Minimal focus aids. Few features. But 10 years ago, it was way better than the G9.

I wasn't saying that the E-P1 is as good as (or even approaching being comparable with the G9 in any aspect). I'm not suggesting going and buying (or even using one) right now; that would be crazy. That doesn't matter; what matters, and all that matters, is the end result.

What I am saying is that when I compare photos of the same subject or topic taken with my E-P1 10 years ago, they compare very well with the same subject taken recently with a G9. See the thread on NZ South Island photos and steampunk, for example.

In good light and for many subjects, the camera doesn't matter at all. What matters is knowing your subject  and composition. And, despite its 12MP sensor and numerous limitations, the jpg output from the E-P1 is fantastic. I'm not even going to say I like the E-P1, it is a horrible camera.

IMHO it is better to spend your time learning your subject, than the to waste the same time learning the newest iteration of the gear every new release. Only one of these will help you produce better images.

As it happens, I think Trevor might benefit from a G9, but no viewer is going to care, since his images are already so good - always the best on that subject in this forum. If I were him, I'd wait for the next generation and see what happens.

If you're happy with your current setup, you don't *need* one. I got one because I was unhappy with the focusing performance of my EM-5 on creature shots. My biggest use of the camera, though, is landscape shots while hiking, and honestly the EM-5 was working just fine for that. Yes, the G9 raw shots require a little less tweaking and can pull out more dynamic range, but the difference isn't earth-shattering. Metering is more accurate on the G9, most of the time I can just point and shoot, whereas on the EM-5 I often had to dial in a little exposure comp. The G9 is a *vast* improvement when shooting birds or other creatures in the distance, though.

I'll admit it, the real reason I got the G9 was because I wanted a new toy. I'm not a pro photographer, I could have continued to make due with the drawbacks of my EM-5 for many more years. I'm still going to keep it for a backup camera. But I'm not going to kid anyone that I *needed* to upgrade, I *wanted* to upgrade. There's nothing wrong with getting a camera just because you want to, as long as you can afford it. Just put all of the benefits that you feel the new camera will provide in a list, and put the price next to that list, and decide if it's worth it to you. No one else can tell you whether you *need* a new camera, they can only provide some pros/cons of that camera.