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Camera for diving and travelling

Started Jul 27, 2018 | Questions
ShpigieT New Member • Posts: 2
Camera for diving and travelling

Hello,

I'm starting a trip soon which includes some diving (up to 30m), hiking and trekking, and I'd like to get a recommendation for a camera model that will suit these activities. I'm mainly gonna take still photos, but I'm looking for a proper quality underwater video filming.

The camera doesn't have to be the best in terms of high quality shootings, photography has never been a special hobby for me. A nice durable and affordable (with the suitable equipment) model will do just fine.

Thank you

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Barmaglot_07 Contributing Member • Posts: 633
Re: Camera for diving and travelling

Do you need telephoto capability while trekking? If not, something like a Sony RX100 II or Canon G7X (optionally mark II), or even an Olympus TG-5, paired with appropriate housing will cover your needs. Since you're diving to 30m, TG-5 will still need a housing, but it will require much less babying than a normal compact camera on hikes - if you drop it, or get caught in a rain, or fall into a creek, it will be fine, whereas an RX100 immersed in water without a housing or dropped on rocks will not survive the ordeal.

If you do need telephoto capabilities, then you'd be looking at an interchangeable-lens camera, because superzoom lenses require extending outwards to work, which makes them impossible to fit into an underwater housing. A Sony A6000 with 16-50mm and 55-210mm lenses is quite compact and lightweight while covering 24mm to 315mm FF-equivalent focal range. It's listed for $798 new at B&H (including camera, both lenses, spare battery, memory card and a bag), and I see used kits offered under $600 on Ebay. A Meikon housing to take it diving will run you $150-200 for a basic fixed-port model, or $327 for one with interchangeable ports and vacuum sealing capability.

Alternatively, if size and weight are of paramount importance, consider an action camera - either a GoPro, or one of its knockoffs. Image quality will be nothing to write home about, but it'll be tiny an unobtrusive. As far as diving goes, larger cameras tend to dominate your dive - you dive to take photos, and the camera rig requires constant uninterrupted attention and care - whereas with an action camera, you can clip it off to your BCD and forget about it until you need it.

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kelpdiver Veteran Member • Posts: 5,564
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The TG-5 seems like it should be your starting point, along with the other 'tough guy' models from other brands.

It's compact, weather proof for above ground trekking, be in on the snow or rappelling down waterfalls.  Shoots 4k, and has the 'microscope' macro mode.   Cheaper than the 1" cameras - since you describe utility as more important to you than pure image quality, the 1/2.3" sensor should still be ok.

Gopro would be smaller, slightly cheaper, but I think it would only be viable for consideration if you considered video more important than stills.

The newest generation of Sony's RX100 series (VI) has a very long zoom, which is versatile, though tends to mean lower overall IQ.    If you go for the higher end compacts with the 1" sensor or larger, you want 24mm on for the wide side, and at least 100mm for the long.

BruceRH Veteran Member • Posts: 3,084
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I have a Sony RX100 III and an underwater housing. The Sony is small and takes excellent images. The housing allows for the same underwater.

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PHXAZCRAIG
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Re: Camera for diving and travelling

I'd go with a compact camera with housing.   Interchangeable lens options are expensive, and bulky.   In the past I've used a series of Canon point-n-shoots (SD630, SD870is, s95, s120).   All have been very good for the price, running $400-500 for the camera and new Canon dive housing.   Unfortunately that class of camera has mostly disappeared - but I bet you could find great deals on the used market.

I went from the Canons to a Sony RX100 II, with Nauticam housing and dual strobes.   Added a focus light and some wet lenses, and I was at $5000.

Used it a year, and while the strobes made a world of difference in the shots I was getting, the autofocus wasn't much different from the point-n-shoots.   Still, these types of cameras have improved autofocus in every revision, and the new ones may be fine.

I went on to a $10,000 DSLR rig, which is truly an effort to bring on trips.

Anyway, I'd recommend something from Canon, with matching Canon housing.   The housings are good (look like Meikon products) and rated to 130 feet.   As far as USING the cameras underwater, I have been much happier with the Canons than the Sony - Sony menus are a mess, the menu print is very small, you have to dive through menus to change stuff, etc.   Canon is simply much easier to use.

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OP ShpigieT New Member • Posts: 2
Re: Camera for diving and travelling

Thank you all for the replies!

You've given me a lot of info so I'll try to summary my answer.

I wouldn't say telphoto capability is critical, so I'll drop this topic for now.

I've been offered the TG-5, it's seems like a proper camera for my needs. But like the other models, the price of the camera itslef along with its housing is exceeding my budget. Moreover, I'm affraid it might be a problem to get the housing in my country. I've tried some film shops and they don't have the suitable hosuing. Since my flight date is nearby, I don't have time for internet delivery.

About the Sony RX100 series, it seems to be a similiar case.

GoPro was my first thought, it's affordable to me. But I don't know if it's worthy because its stills capability might be a bummer.

I've been thinking to maybe get two cheaper cameras, one for diving and one for the rest of the trip, what do think?

Barmaglot_07 Contributing Member • Posts: 633
Re: Camera for diving and travelling

If TG-5 is too expensive, you can look for a used TG-4. As for housing, you can order one from Meikon - they ship worldwide, and usually within a week or less of ordering.

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kelpdiver Veteran Member • Posts: 5,564
Re: Camera for diving and travelling

ShpigieT wrote:

I've been thinking to maybe get two cheaper cameras, one for diving and one for the rest of the trip, what do think?

doesn't sound like this is a cheaper option, and means more to carry, two cameras to learn to use, two cameras to charge, etc.  If you're too time limited to get the TG5 housing in time, is that true for anything?   Maybe you're too late for this one, have to look to the bigger picture.

The TG4/5 can be used to moderate depth, as well as topside.   Old gopros are cheap - you could use that for deeper dives.   Or just stick to a gopro for this trip, and reevaluate the need next time.

dougjgreen1 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,068
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PHXAZCRAIG wrote:

I'd go with a compact camera with housing. Interchangeable lens options are expensive, and bulky. In the past I've used a series of Canon point-n-shoots (SD630, SD870is, s95, s120). All have been very good for the price, running $400-500 for the camera and new Canon dive housing. Unfortunately that class of camera has mostly disappeared - but I bet you could find great deals on the used market.

I went from the Canons to a Sony RX100 II, with Nauticam housing and dual strobes. Added a focus light and some wet lenses, and I was at $5000.

Nowadays, one could get a good Sony RX100 II used for ~$250-300,  and a new Meikon housing for it for less than $200.   Then one could get a couple of good slave strobes for a couple hundred each,  and cabling, brackets, counterweights, etc, for $500-800 more.

I personally went the route of a Nikon 1 J4 and Nikon's own WP-N3 housing for it for even less money.  My reason for going this route was that I feel that the Nikon housing is superior to the Meikon cases, although one could argue that the Sony is a slightly more capable camera, it's not by much, and the J4 has the benefit of interchangeable lenses.

One could also spend a similar amount on a few year-old Olympus M43 outfit and Olympus' own underwater housings.

These rigs would all run in the vicinity of $350-500 for the camera with a standard lens + housing, and they are all roughly comparable photographic platforms.   A reasonable lighting setup and you are still in the ballpark of $1000 or so all in.

Used it a year, and while the strobes made a world of difference in the shots I was getting, the autofocus wasn't much different from the point-n-shoots. Still, these types of cameras have improved autofocus in every revision, and the new ones may be fine.

I went on to a $10,000 DSLR rig, which is truly an effort to bring on trips.

Anyway, I'd recommend something from Canon, with matching Canon housing. The housings are good (look like Meikon products) and rated to 130 feet. As far as USING the cameras underwater, I have been much happier with the Canons than the Sony - Sony menus are a mess, the menu print is very small, you have to dive through menus to change stuff, etc. Canon is simply much easier to use.

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