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Went to get a G80 and ended up with an A7..tips from M4/3 and FF users?

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Siewwah Regular Member • Posts: 155
Re: Went to get a G80 and ended up with an A7..tips from M4/3 and FF users?

Frankly, not many are like you, prepare to spend the money without first determining if you want a FF system or MFT. So you are comparing an apple with an orange. and there are many oranges and many apples, and few people choose between oranges and apples

khunpapa
khunpapa Senior Member • Posts: 2,666
Re: Went to get a G80 and ended up with an A7..tips from M4/3 and FF users?

Treadurownpath wrote:

Firstly, this is not a M4/3 bashing thread. I have been using M4/3 since 2013 now. I have a GX80 and several moderate lenses including 20mm, 14mm 12-32mm and 45-175mm. I travel a lot and love the size and features of my GX80.

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In any case, I was just pondering what other people's thoughts were on running both systems and if any M4/3 users can help me with tips to adjust to FF. I really am a noob in this area!

Who knows, perhaps the FF IQ won't capture me and I'll merely keep my GX80!

You have not one lens to deal with all situations. Why limit yourself to one system?

Most people limit themself because of budget. Are you too? If not, get the best of both worlds!

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OP Treadurownpath Regular Member • Posts: 184
Re: Went to get a G80 and ended up with an A7..tips from M4/3 and FF users?

Siewwah wrote:

Frankly, not many are like you, prepare to spend the money without first determining if you want a FF system or MFT. So you are comparing an apple with an orange. and there are many oranges and many apples, and few people choose between oranges and apples

Well, I don't really think it is about the money. If anything, I am downsizing and think it is more about saving money. I wasn't happy with the lack of pop lenses like the 14mm were giving me and realised that I would be looking at lenses like the 15mm and all their expense to get that. Then there is the camera itself. The GX80 is a lovely little, camera, but using that viewfinder to take in big expansive natural environments was just a nightmare and unenjoyable

So where do I go from there? Well the GX8 is nice enough but still more than the Sony A7 cost me. To get a real upgrade, I would be looking at the G9 or alike, which are a small fortune. So really, I feel a little bit priced out of Micro 4/3, as their mid range options are lacking, so why not look elsewhere? Especially when considering my desire to slow things down, concentrate on beautiful landscapes and nature etc.

So things are going well with the A7 thus far. It has many, many limitations, but my plan is to buy a nice, wide landscape lens and I have already purchased the 55 1.8 for a very good price (£380). This will serve me now in my 'less is more' attempt.

The only thing lacking is for wildlife, but I am only into exotic wildlife and have no safaris etc planned in the short term so will worry about that down the line. Given the bids accruing on my micro 4/3 gear I am essentially swapping my M4/3 kit for an A7, zeiss 55 and landscape lens (yet to be determined). I am doing things differently this time and investigating in nice lenses as the body's fall quickly and fall fast. Happy with my choice so far, but as I saw, I know this won't be the end of M43 for me as I suspect I will return to get a GX8 and 100-300 down the line to meet my wildlife needs.

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Re: Went to get a G80 and ended up with an A7..tips from M4/3 and FF users?

Treadurownpath wrote:

Siewwah wrote:

Frankly, not many are like you, prepare to spend the money without first determining if you want a FF system or MFT. So you are comparing an apple with an orange. and there are many oranges and many apples, and few people choose between oranges and apples

Well, I don't really think it is about the money. If anything, I am downsizing and think it is more about saving money. I wasn't happy with the lack of pop lenses like the 14mm were giving me and realised that I would be looking at lenses like the 15mm and all their expense to get that. Then there is the camera itself. The GX80 is a lovely little, camera, but using that viewfinder to take in big expansive natural environments was just a nightmare and unenjoyable

So where do I go from there? Well the GX8 is nice enough but still more than the Sony A7 cost me. To get a real upgrade, I would be looking at the G9 or alike, which are a small fortune. So really, I feel a little bit priced out of Micro 4/3, as their mid range options are lacking, so why not look elsewhere? Especially when considering my desire to slow things down, concentrate on beautiful landscapes and nature etc.

So things are going well with the A7 thus far. It has many, many limitations, but my plan is to buy a nice, wide landscape lens and I have already purchased the 55 1.8 for a very good price (£380). This will serve me now in my 'less is more' attempt.

The only thing lacking is for wildlife, but I am only into exotic wildlife and have no safaris etc planned in the short term so will worry about that down the line. Given the bids accruing on my micro 4/3 gear I am essentially swapping my M4/3 kit for an A7, zeiss 55 and landscape lens (yet to be determined). I am doing things differently this time and investigating in nice lenses as the body's fall quickly and fall fast. Happy with my choice so far, but as I saw, I know this won't be the end of M43 for me as I suspect I will return to get a GX8 and 100-300 down the line to meet my wildlife needs.

The Loxia 21mm is the classic A7x landscape lens.

Andrew

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Siewwah Regular Member • Posts: 155
Re: Went to get a G80 and ended up with an A7..tips from M4/3 and FF users?

I'm glad you are enjoying the A7. Which is the most important thing.

Personally, I feel that the A7 series lenses are as heavy if not more than the regular DSLR. I always collect lenses and for the  A7 series, it gets too heavy. there is also the little irky issue of their non-intuitive menu. But that's a rather personal thing,

I'm using my GX8 with half a dozen lenses for all my travels, the whole lot. My other system is the Canon 5DM4 with another half dozen lenses. Great system but I can never bring more than 2 lenses...

Enjoy!

SW

Chas J Contributing Member • Posts: 956
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I run both systems and notice the benefits of both.   For me,  the big thing with full frame is:  smoother tonal values,  better dynamic range,  the ability to pull up the shadows without getting too much noise and, when needed, the extra megapixels.

The advantage of u4/3 is small enough to carry with me every day.   Small enough to put a comprehensive light kit together for travel and, one that is missed by many,  more consistent / accurate auto-focus ... because of contrast rather than phase detect system.

It takes awhile to appreciate the full frame advantages so I recommend that you use your Sony for at least 6 months before making a decision.

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