RUMOR: 2 Full-Frame mirrorless Canon cams mid 2019

Started Jul 6, 2018 | Discussions
Marco Nero
Marco Nero Veteran Member • Posts: 6,966
RUMOR: 2 Full-Frame mirrorless Canon cams mid 2019
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https://petapixel.com/2018/07/05/canon-has-two-full-frame-mirrorless-cameras-in-the-works-report/
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Two Models: A high-end Model and a low-end Model.
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Looks like it's going to allow EF lenses... although our suspicions of EF-M lenses being utilized might explain the interesting choice of words used. I suspect a modular adapter that is very thin but which acts like the EF-to-EFM adapter. Time will tell.  Either way the story comes from a Rumor Site with a long history of getting everything wrong.

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Marco Nero
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Canon's NEW Mount Patent...


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http://www.canonrumors.com/patent-new-canon-mount-coming/
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A patent for serial communication for an ILC mount that is neither EF or EF-M.

Canon News tried their best to translate a rather awkward patent.

…… is seemingly suggesting that this mount could handle multiple lenses of both a new mount and old mount format. Conjecturing by looking at the mount, looking at the size of the sensor against the mount itself, it’s appearing as if canon is looking at mounting EF-M and EF Full frame mirrorless using possibly a hybrid mount?

From Japan Patent Application 2018-084713:

Conventionally, the serial communication (synchronous serial communication) of a clock synchronization system has been adopted as a communication method of a camera and an interchangeable lens. The following technical contents are disclosed in the Patent document 1. First, synchronous serial communication is performed with the first communication speed with which an interchangeable lens old type can also communicate. When the interchangeable lens with which it is equipped is distinguished from a new lens by the communication content, it changes to the synchronous serial communication in a more nearly high-speed second communication speed.

"We’ve been told that the mount solution for a full frame mirrorless camera would be interesting, but this is the first time we can confirm that Canon is working on a new mount. Though there’s no way of knowing if this is indeed for the upcoming full frame mirrorless camera body."
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It's worth noting that this information was released in May 2018... several months before the new Full Frame Mirrorless rumor surfaced.

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nnowak Veteran Member • Posts: 6,953
Re: Canon's NEW Mount Patent...
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Marco Nero wrote:

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http://www.canonrumors.com/patent-new-canon-mount-coming/
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A patent for serial communication for an ILC mount that is neither EF or EF-M.

This patent was discussed in these forums a few weeks ago.

Canon News tried their best to translate a rather awkward patent.

No, as usual, the rumor sites tried to distort the actual content of the patent into click bait.

…… is seemingly suggesting that this mount could handle multiple lenses of both a new mount and old mount format. Conjecturing by looking at the mount, looking at the size of the sensor against the mount itself, it’s appearing as if canon is looking at mounting EF-M and EF Full frame mirrorless using possibly a hybrid mount?

From Japan Patent Application 2018-084713:

Conventionally, the serial communication (synchronous serial communication) of a clock synchronization system has been adopted as a communication method of a camera and an interchangeable lens. The following technical contents are disclosed in the Patent document 1. First, synchronous serial communication is performed with the first communication speed with which an interchangeable lens old type can also communicate. When the interchangeable lens with which it is equipped is distinguished from a new lens by the communication content, it changes to the synchronous serial communication in a more nearly high-speed second communication speed.

"We’ve been told that the mount solution for a full frame mirrorless camera would be interesting, but this is the first time we can confirm that Canon is working on a new mount. Though there’s no way of knowing if this is indeed for the upcoming full frame mirrorless camera body."
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It's worth noting that this information was released in May 2018... several months before the new Full Frame Mirrorless rumor surfaced.

Nothing about this patent describes a future mount.  All diagrams of mounts in the patent are purely for illustration and have no relation to current or future products.  The ONLY thing this patent covers is a 2 speed communication protocol that can detect "old" vs "new" lenses.  Canon could implement this patent on the EF mount, EF-M mount, some new mount, or never.

One thing to keep in mind is Canon, more than any other camera manufacturer, likes to patent every little thing imaginable.  Canon usually ranks #1 in patent quantity, but not necessarily quality.  The deluge of lens patents that are simply the engineering rejects are a perfect example.

justmeMN Veteran Member • Posts: 9,647
Re: Canon's NEW Mount Patent...

On the mount issue, a Canon exec said "let your imagination suggest some possibilities!", and this could qualify as an imaginative solution.

https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/1807023531/canon-interview-increased-competition-allows-us-to-level-up

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