Common mistakes for Sony/mirrorless newbies?

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Peech New Member • Posts: 13
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Hi, a few months ago I bought my A9 and switched to mirrorless after shooting SLR/DSLRs for more than 20 years. Still getting used to how this works.
I just realized that the reason I've been having trouble with AF in low-light (I shoot a lot in restaurants at dinner time) was that I chose to have the setting effect ON in LiveView. As I tend to shoot food at f/5.6 even with f/2.8 lenses, this meant that I was losing a lot of light while focusing as the lens is stopped down - something that doesn't happen in DSLRs. I've now corrected that issue.
So it got me thinking: are there other common mistakes people make when first switching to mirrorless, which aren't issues when shooting DSLRs?
Many thanks in advance for your help and advice.

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Zefah Regular Member • Posts: 241
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Not really a mistake, but it's good to know how the Sony autofocus system works and what its limitations are. Here's a nice video on the subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqfj6bao5XQ

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Thinking Sony mirrorless will only backup your DSLR - not become your primary camera. A mistake that very quickly self-corrects 

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EcoR1 Regular Member • Posts: 120
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It seems to be a very common misconception , that adapted lenses behave as good or almost as good as native lenses in all AF situations. They do not. When investing to mirrorless system you should understand that in the end native lenses are what you want. MF-lenses are a different story though.

Rol Lei Nut Veteran Member • Posts: 3,708
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EcoR1 wrote:

It seems to be a very common misconception , that adapted lenses behave as good or almost as good as native lenses in all AF situations. They do not. When investing to mirrorless system you should understand that in the end native lenses are what you want. MF-lenses are a different story though.

It seems to be a very common misconception , that native lenses are the only way to go...

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Not reading the manual (well, that might be an issue when shooting DSLR too).

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The biggest mistake I see Sony users making is baiting Canon & Nikon users on these forums.

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tommiejeep Veteran Member • Posts: 6,069
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All depends on what you shoot.  My DSLR has another DSLR  for second camera and my Sony a7rii has a a7iii as second camera.  Different uses

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noggin2k1 wrote:

The biggest mistake I see Sony users making is baiting Canon & Nikon users on these forums.

....into thinking that some day in the near future, Canon and Nikon will also have a similar or better technology.

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People trying out 5 copies of lenses to find the perfect copy think this will somehow improve their photography.

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noggin2k1 Senior Member • Posts: 1,936
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Dennis from Florida wrote:

noggin2k1 wrote:

The biggest mistake I see Sony users making is baiting Canon & Nikon users on these forums.

....into thinking that some day in the near future, Canon and Nikon will also have a similar or better technology.

I'm hoping that comment is meant as a joke, because that sort of attitude is the problem with these forums.

All manufacturers create kit capable of taking world class pictures, it just so happens that for us Sony users, Sony make the stuff that best meets our individual needs. It's cringeworthy when I see the "there's no point even taking a picture if you're not using Sony" sort of comments.

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MisterHairy Senior Member • Posts: 2,255
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Thinking that Sony now has a comprehensive lens selection.

Thinking that Sony will improve features through firmware updates.

Thinking that Sony has a competent software engineering team for their cameras.

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Peech wrote:

Hi, a few months ago I bought my A9 and switched to mirrorless after shooting SLR/DSLRs for more than 20 years. Still getting used to how this works.
I just realized that the reason I've been having trouble with AF in low-light (I shoot a lot in restaurants at dinner time) was that I chose to have the setting effect ON in LiveView. As I tend to shoot food at f/5.6 even with f/2.8 lenses, this meant that I was losing a lot of light while focusing as the lens is stopped down - something that doesn't happen in DSLRs. I've now corrected that issue.
So it got me thinking: are there other common mistakes people make when first switching to mirrorless, which aren't issues when shooting DSLRs?
Many thanks in advance for your help and advice.

If you're shooting in controlled light, then Setting Effect On isn't really needed once you set and lock your exposure, whereas if the lighting is changing or you are varying the exposure it is far more useful to judge exposure with it on, though you could substitute it with the histogram if you don't have enough light for AF.

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Hank Radt Contributing Member • Posts: 595
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vpilot wrote:

Not reading the manual (well, that might be an issue when shooting DSLR too).

vpilot

Agree. But would add that worth getting a good guide (I've used Friedman for my a6300 and a7R2, others like Busch) to really take advantage of all the capabilities.

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MisterHairy wrote:

Thinking that Sony now has a comprehensive lens selection.

What lenses are you missing: http://briansmith.com/sony-a7-a7r-a7s-lens-guide/ ?

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MisterHairy Senior Member • Posts: 2,255
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Hank Radt wrote:

MisterHairy wrote:

Thinking that Sony now has a comprehensive lens selection.

What lenses are you missing: http://briansmith.com/sony-a7-a7r-a7s-lens-guide/ ?

Good quality tilt/swing and shift lenses for professional landscape and product photography.

Sony is now great for many things but these are branches of paid work which are accustomed to having those movements available and the benefits are very real.

Third Party lens makers are doing an amazing job of propping up the Sony brand but I guess that they don’t see Sony as having enough of a foothold in those markets to warrant the development of a range of movements lenses. A pity because the cameras are eminently well suited to product and fine landscape photography.

[yes, yes, I do realise that these have traditionally been the realms of medium format (and larger) but there is enough of a 35mm segment to support CaNikon maintaining T/S product lines.]

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MisterHairy Senior Member • Posts: 2,255
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MisterHairy wrote:

Hank Radt wrote:

MisterHairy wrote:

Thinking that Sony now has a comprehensive lens selection.

What lenses are you missing: http://briansmith.com/sony-a7-a7r-a7s-lens-guide/ ?

Good quality tilt/swing and shift lenses for professional landscape and product photography.

Sony is now great for many things but these are branches of paid work which are accustomed to having those movements available and the benefits are very real.

Third Party lens makers are doing an amazing job of propping up the Sony brand but I guess that they don’t see Sony as having enough of a foothold in those markets to warrant the development of a range of movements lenses. A pity because the cameras are eminently well suited to product and fine landscape photography.

[yes, yes, I do realise that these have traditionally been the realms of medium format (and larger) but there is enough of a 35mm segment to support CaNikon maintaining T/S product lines.]

By the way, I did actually say “Thinking that Sony now has a comprehensive lens selection” and the vast majority of the lenses on the very cool link are third party. You will find that off-brand lens ownership in professional use is low.

Now, I do realise and accept that I am the only one who is mentioning professional use and the OP’s question did not imply this in the slightest so I do agree that I am subverting the question slightly. Only slightly though.

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Friedman is a genius.

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Mistakes that I made alone the way:

  • Tricking the camera to autofocus effectively on horizontal contrast points. Hint: they all like vertical, contrasty lines.
  • Not customizing the Fn menu and C buttons to your needs.
  • Not using the custom shooting mode presets.
  • Recording in SLOG when I am searching for minutes of spare time each day.  Color grading takes time.
  • Waiting five years for a native 35mm f2 AF.
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