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Should I return/replace my lens? EF-S 55-250mm sharpness/focus

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streetsnyc New Member • Posts: 11
Should I return/replace my lens? EF-S 55-250mm sharpness/focus
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Hi,

I'm concerned about the sharpness of my lens. Can you guys help me see if there's anything wrong with it?

Lens: Canon EF-S 55-250mm
Body: Canon Rebel T6i

I use autofocus on the center point, and I do believe that I use settings that are generally supposed to come out with sharp photos, such as an appropriate aperture + 1/FL, etc.

I'm still within the return period, and am wondering where the problem lies: lens, body, or perhaps it's just operator error? Or perhaps all of these images are acceptably sharp for this lens.

Many thanks in advance for your help

Focus point is on back of head, but hair seems to be not "tack-sharp." I submitted this to ShutterStock and it got rejected for out-of-focus.

Fur seems blurryish

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OP streetsnyc New Member • Posts: 11
Re: Should I return/replace my lens? EF-S 55-250mm sharpness/focus

Here's another shot I just took. Shot in JPG, so this file is directly uploaded as it was shot.

I don't know, it seems like things are just fuzzy compared to some other shots I've seen on the forum. Thoughts?

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R2D2 Forum Pro • Posts: 26,551
Re: Should I return/replace my lens? EF-S 55-250mm sharpness/focus
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ISO is out of control, with over-done processing (reduces detail). Lots of veiling glare, greatly reducing micro contrast.

There might be an underlying softness, but you'd have to test for that specifically.

Recommend the new 70-200/2.8 III. 

Best of luck!

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BAK Forum Pro • Posts: 26,019
This part is operator error

WRONG -->> I use settings that are generally supposed to come out with sharp photos, such as an appropriate aperture + 1/FL, etc. <<

With a camera like yours, double (actually cut in half) the shutter speed. i.e. go to 1/250 instead of 1/125, and so on.

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BAK Forum Pro • Posts: 26,019
Cats are fuzzy. God made them that way.
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Try to make some sharp pictures.

If you succeed doing that, you'll know the lens is fine. (It probably is.)

Start by finding a subject that is actually sharp. Magazine pages taped to a wall are frequently sharp.

The face of a wrist watch on an arm resting on a chair are often sharp.

Use a high shutter speed and a tripod, and sharp, not diffused, light.

Use a moderate ISO

Try several apertures. Try several focal lengths.

And after you capture the image using digital science, use the sharpening controls to make it even sharper.

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Steve Balcombe Forum Pro • Posts: 15,582
Re: Should I return/replace my lens? EF-S 55-250mm sharpness/focus
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R2D2 wrote:

ISO is out of control, with over-done processing (reduces detail).

Yep.

And the girl has probably walked out of the plane of focus!

photonius Veteran Member • Posts: 6,895
Re: Should I return/replace my lens? EF-S 55-250mm sharpness/focus

streetsnyc wrote:

Hi,

I'm concerned about the sharpness of my lens. Can you guys help me see if there's anything wrong with it?

Lens: Canon EF-S 55-250mm
Body: Canon Rebel T6i

I use autofocus on the center point, and I do believe that I use settings that are generally supposed to come out with sharp photos, such as an appropriate aperture + 1/FL, etc.

I'm still within the return period, and am wondering where the problem lies: lens, body, or perhaps it's just operator error? Or perhaps all of these images are acceptably sharp for this lens.

Many thanks in advance for your help

Focus point is on back of head, but hair seems to be not "tack-sharp." I submitted this to ShutterStock and it got rejected for out-of-focus.

Fur seems blurryish

as mentioned by others, the cat shots with ISO 4000 or 3200 show lots of processing artefacts, that's not the lens.

start off with something static and flat, using live view and a tripod to check if the lens is sharp, 100 ISO.

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Zeee Forum Pro • Posts: 25,641
Re: Should I return/replace my lens? EF-S 55-250mm sharpness/focus

Nope. For what this lens costs it does a very good job.

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OP streetsnyc New Member • Posts: 11
Autofocus performance?
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Thanks everyone for the suggestions and help!

By using live view and taking a photo of an analog wrist watch, I think that I've determined that the lens can definitely create sharp images. What do you think? I know it's not ideal as my space is not well-lit and I had to shine a flashlight to even see anything...

Manual focus

Auto focus

So, given that, I believe that it is not my equipment that is defective, and that it's just me that needs improvement

Any general tips for capturing sharp images when it comes to shooting street portraits of people or animals in motion? For instance, I'm never sure if I should use AI Servo or One Shot. It's hard to do a controlled test of this, for obvious reasons

Speaking of which, would the autofocus system of my camera be another issue? Because I believe that I achieved the sharpest image (using the watch as a test) by manually focusing. The difference is barely noticeable except when viewed at 100%, but it made me wonder if there's anything I can do to optimize AF accuracy? For instance, I use an AmazonBasics UV filter.

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Jura S Senior Member • Posts: 1,980
Re: Autofocus performance?

streetsnyc wrote:

Speaking of which, would the autofocus system of my camera be another issue? Because I believe that I achieved the sharpest image (using the watch as a test) by manually focusing. The difference is barely noticeable except when viewed at 100%, but it made me wonder if there's anything I can do to optimize AF accuracy? For instance, I use an AmazonBasics UV filter.

What mode of focus acquisition do you use?

jvc1 Senior Member • Posts: 2,202
Re: Autofocus performance?
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Get a hood and get rid of the UV filter. Cheap filters will degrade image quality.

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Zeee Forum Pro • Posts: 25,641
Re: Autofocus performance?

jvc1 wrote:

Get a hood and get rid of the UV filter. Cheap filters will degrade image quality.

If you are going to use one get  B+W or something like that. It may cost as much as the lens.

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Re: Autofocus performance?
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Good to see the watch is also working.

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OP streetsnyc New Member • Posts: 11
Re: Autofocus performance?

Jura S wrote:

streetsnyc wrote:

Speaking of which, would the autofocus system of my camera be another issue? Because I believe that I achieved the sharpest image (using the watch as a test) by manually focusing. The difference is barely noticeable except when viewed at 100%, but it made me wonder if there's anything I can do to optimize AF accuracy? For instance, I use an AmazonBasics UV filter.

What mode of focus acquisition do you use?

I typically use One Shot autofocus, but have also experimented with AI Servo. I've read that AI Focus isn't reliable or is generally rubbish.

Good advice re cheap filters and hoods. I'll replace my filter with a better one. As for the hood, I'm not sure which to buy. Is there a specific form/shape I should look for? Or would a generic 58mm lens hood suffice?

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Zeee Forum Pro • Posts: 25,641
Re: Autofocus performance?

streetsnyc wrote:

Jura S wrote:

streetsnyc wrote:

Speaking of which, would the autofocus system of my camera be another issue? Because I believe that I achieved the sharpest image (using the watch as a test) by manually focusing. The difference is barely noticeable except when viewed at 100%, but it made me wonder if there's anything I can do to optimize AF accuracy? For instance, I use an AmazonBasics UV filter.

What mode of focus acquisition do you use?

I typically use One Shot autofocus, but have also experimented with AI Servo. I've read that AI Focus isn't reliable or is generally rubbish.

Good advice re cheap filters and hoods. I'll replace my filter with a better one. As for the hood, I'm not sure which to buy. Is there a specific form/shape I should look for? Or would a generic 58mm lens hood suffice?

You are going need to adapt to using AI Servo for anything moving. When the subject comes into focus in the viewfinder - fire away. Trust the process.

You might want to check on the AF-ON to help with AF.

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Re: Autofocus performance?

A third-party hood will be fine, but get one that fits properly.

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OP streetsnyc New Member • Posts: 11
Re: Autofocus performance?

Dave wrote:

A third-party hood will be fine, but get one that fits properly.

Thanks Dave. Would you you recommend a petal over a tube hood?

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Re: Autofocus performance?

If you have an ebay account, just search "canon 55-250 hood" and take your pick of the cheaper 3rd party offerings.

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OP streetsnyc New Member • Posts: 11
Re: Autofocus performance?

Zeee wrote:

You are going need to adapt to using AI Servo for anything moving. When the subject comes into focus in the viewfinder - fire away. Trust the process.

You might want to check on the AF-ON to help with AF.

Thank you so much, I remember experimenting with back-button focus and, for whatever reason, forgot to get back into that practice. I think maybe I was doing street photography, using a 24mm lens and shooting from the hip using FlexiZone AF. But now that I have this telephoto zoom lens, I'll be far enough away to use the viewfinder.

I feel very fortunate to have so many people sharing their knowledge

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BAK Forum Pro • Posts: 26,019
Here's a tip

Go to Youtube and look up Joe McNally's tape Da Grip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDsx3-FWfwk

Follow his instructions and your photos will be sharper.

Me?

I lean against things.

Hold your camera against your face, and lean the back of your head into a telephone pole.

Push the side of your camera against a power pole.

Rest the camera on the roof of your car. Turn the engine off.

Find a fence pole. Put the camera on top.

Make a stack of books. set the camera on top.

Set your camera off by using the self timer.

Pay attention to the wind. That's why tree leaves are not sharp.

Pick a place where your subject will be. Use high speed clickety-click, turning the camera on before the subject arrives at this spot, and turn it off after the people go past.

Etc.

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