M5 vs. M50?

Bhotoz wrote:

Helen wrote:

Cameleon wrote:

When you've only just taken the shot (i.e. When in instant review rather than playback) the buttons won't work - you have to use the touchscreen. This is one of the few areas where I preferred the M5 functionality as it would allow the buttons to be used at all times (though you had to set up the camera one time before it would use them at all).

I haven't shot with M5, but in M and M3 I have set image review off, so I can take next photo faster. When I want to see image, I press play button and zoom in and out if needed. So you cannot do this with M50? What do I have to do with touch screen then??

You CAN do what you describe, just not in (instant) image review - but as you turn that off and do not use it, you won't come across the limitation with button use in that mode.

Helen wrote:

Bhotoz wrote:

Helen wrote:

Cameleon wrote:

When you've only just taken the shot (i.e. When in instant review rather than playback) the buttons won't work - you have to use the touchscreen. This is one of the few areas where I preferred the M5 functionality as it would allow the buttons to be used at all times (though you had to set up the camera one time before it would use them at all).

I haven't shot with M5, but in M and M3 I have set image review off, so I can take next photo faster. When I want to see image, I press play button and zoom in and out if needed. So you cannot do this with M50? What do I have to do with touch screen then??

You CAN do what you describe, just not in (instant) image review - but as you turn that off and do not use it, you won't come across the limitation with button use in that mode.

Thanks, glad to hear!

I think I'm going to jump in the "M50-world". When M50 was published, I thought I wouldn't buy it because lack of external controls and I would prefer tiltable screen such as M3/M6 has. M5 has been overpriced here, and M5's tilt down screen wouldn't be the best for me either. Now that the M50's price has got a little lower, and I would get very good refund from my older compact camera which I don't use anymore, so I'm very close...

Somebody wrote here that you can set ISO to M-Fn in M50, so I could get the "external" controls (iso, aperture, shutter speed, ec) I need. Though I would prefer specific ec knob such in M3/M6/M5. I want to use touch screen only for moving focus point. I'll survive with sviwel screen, too.

I think I would be quite happy with M50. Especially I have high hopes for 50 stm for kids' portraits. I never liked to shoot people with M/M3 because the lack of viewfinder. I hope also that M50 focuses better with ef-m 55-200mm and 15-45mm in lower light, when shooting landscape.

Part of me still wants to jump to Fuji and 18-55mm f2.8-4, because I would need also compact size but faster normal zoom... Unfortunately our local shop doesn't sell Fuji. So for financial reasons I'll propably doing "just" this M50 move at this time and use my current lenses. I'll save money and next time I'll buy either faster Ef-m zoom or Fuji... 😉

I post the content again about customization of buttons in EOS-M5, default MFn button =ISO, for your reference

Customization of buttons, C. fn(5)

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I assign EV+- button to ISO, trash button to EV+-

In Av mode, the configuration would be

front wheel --> change Aperture

up button (EV+-) and front wheel--> change ISO ( same configuration as my EOS-M3 model)

down button (trash) and front wheel --> change EV+-

So I could easily access and adjust the exposure parameters. You can change the trash button to ISO only to make it simple.

Thanks for Reading The Fine Manual so I didn't have to.    What you pointed out confirms that the M50 is very flexible.  Less is more when it comes to fumbling with external controls when your eye is against the viewfinder.  When you can reprogram the existing controls to do what you want.

Wayne

Have been an EVF shooter for many years - and was OK with getting down for lower shots such as flowers and cotton fields (I actually shot a cotton field once). But since using a Canon G1X Mark II - plus getting a lot older, simply love the G1X  II tilting LCD. I can hold it with one hand, set up my image and shoot w/o much more than bending over a bit. I would like that about the M5.
However, my main camera is a 50D DSLR - and was very close to stepping up to an 80D when I began looking at the M series. Was surprised at how the M50 matches up with the 80D plus has several newer features (Digic8, eye focus, e.g.).   The M50 gives me the same LCD advantages as the G1x II walk around - but with the swivel LCD allows me to turn it into the camera for protection when storinig, and also allows a vertical shot at a low or high level that would be more ackward with the G1x II or M5 LCD.
Finally, I'm "am" getting old (bought my first camera - an Argus C3 aboard ship in '57). So going smaller is my overall direction now. My 200-400mm set up will be much lighter on an M50 than an 80D.