Will you choose ( T7i ) or ( Canon SL 2 )

Easy Rider wrote:

apple2015 wrote:

9 point , are they easy to shoot ? instead of 45point

Depends. If you're not doing sports or BIF, 9 AF points only one cross type is just fine.

I have the 100d with 24mm F2.8 STM, great all rounder and street shooter.

Before I had a Nikon d5300 with 39 points, 9 cross type and a Fuji X-100 T with many.

100D shoots just as well.

Agree with you but if you ARE doing action shots (people, cars, aircraft), the additional 45 cross points comes in VERY handy.

Jim

Jim wrote:

Easy Rider wrote:

apple2015 wrote:

9 point , are they easy to shoot ? instead of 45point

Depends. If you're not doing sports or BIF, 9 AF points only one cross type is just fine.

I have the 100d with 24mm F2.8 STM, great all rounder and street shooter.

Before I had a Nikon d5300 with 39 points, 9 cross type and a Fuji X-100 T with many.

100D shoots just as well.

Agree with you but if you ARE doing action shots (people, cars, aircraft), the additional 45 cross points comes in VERY handy.

Jim

Agree that there are several ways to skin that same cat  .

Myself, I actually find the additional AF points to be much more useful when shooting subjects other than fast action.  For action shots I've always had the highest hit rate when using a single AF point (usually the center AF point).

When using multiple AF points (or even Zone AF), too many times I've seen the AF stray to an unintended part of the subject.  Plus (IME) AF acquisition is noticeably slower with more than one active AF point.

Take the case when shooting BIFs against even a plain blue sky.  The (multiple/zone) AF points can often pick up on one of the wingtips instead of staying on the eye.  Drives you crazy.  To avoid this I try to improve my tracking through practice instead, and track with one AF point as perfectly as I can.

My reward...

Juvenile Snowy this past winter.  A zillion degrees below zero.  Un-cropped.   Click on "original size"

Multiple AF points would have likely zeroed in on the near wing, or been sucked in by the high contrast far wing.

But as always, YMMV. 

R2

Easy Rider wrote:

apple2015 wrote:

9 point , are they easy to shoot ? instead of 45point

Depends. If you're not doing sports or BIF, 9 AF points only one cross type is just fine.

I have the 100d with 24mm F2.8 STM, great all rounder and street shooter.

Before I had a Nikon d5300 with 39 points, 9 cross type and a Fuji X-100 T with many.

100D shoots just as well.

For still subjects, I can believe this. When I did get around to trying a 77D with 45 points, the experience was underwhelming. My blog rant -

http://photographyintro.com/canon-77d-45point-af/

Kelly Cook

KCook wrote:

When I did get around to trying a 77D with 45 points, the experience was underwhelming.

Read your rant, and I agree that using multiple AF points (at the same time) simply doesn’t cut it, regardless of subject or shooting situation.  I still recommend using only a single AF point, so that the photographer  can pinpoint exactly where they want the focus to end up, and not leave it to the camera (not even one of today’s technological marvels!).

IME the 45 AF points (or 143 or even 5,685 points) are just there to make selecting one individual point easier and more convenient.  As has always been the case, it’s still the quality of the AF points that makes the real difference.  That and the shooter’s brain!  

R2

Hey R2, thanks for visiting my blog.  I'm a cockeyed optimist, keep hoping for a miracle .

Kelly

KCook wrote:

I'm a cockeyed optimist, keep hoping for a miracle.

LOL, maybe once there's a direct neural connection established between the photographer's Cerebral Cortex and the camera's "Cerebellum!"

R2

I don't really get the need.  I only use center point.

But I have shot a young nephew's sports day and yeah multi points and 3-d tracking was what got me the keepers for sure.

But for anything but sports or BIF, I could have just the one AF point and get by even for fast moving street.

Of course center point works.  But either A) you stick with the CP and the composition is limited (boring).  Or B) take the extra time to recompose after setting focus.

I don't expect an auto AF point system to give a 100% match with my idea of the best point(s).  But it's nice when the match is close enough (which is not unusual).  My complaint with the 77D auto AF is that it can be far from consistent when shooting the same scene.  Even if it did pick the wrong points, I would have thought it would pick the same wrong points each time.

ohwell

Of course center point works. But either A) you stick with the CP and the composition is limited (boring).

Never found that

Or B) take the extra time to recompose after setting focus.

No biggie just got to be quick  Makes it more fun :).

I shoot F8 with a 24mm pancake, using a very simple zone focus principle but using AF, hard to not get OOF even if CP not on main subject...

Easy Rider wrote:

I don't really get the need. I only use center point.

What I'd really like to help improve my BIF keeper rate (70D), is the 7D2's AF expansion points.  Really helps when tracking strays just a little bit, but doesn't go off target nearly as much as Zone AF does.

R2