Does anyone have both the E-P5 and the EM10 II?

I had the E-P5, and sold it to fund the EM10 II. The E-P5 was a very good camera but I like the design of the EM10 II better since I didn't like the look of the E-P5 with the EVF on. Also the E-P5 had dials issues.

However sometimes I get a nagging feeling that my Jpg photos with the EM10 II don't seem quite as contrasty and nice as the ones from the E-P5. I can't be sure, and can't test it myself since I don't have both cameras. I can't imagine that Olympus would have changed anything in their Jpg engine between these two models, but I'd like to know for sure, just so I can settle the matter and know if I'm imagining things. It seems like when doing editing I have to increase the contrast more often on the EM10 II files to get them to look nice, than I did with the E-P5. I use the same in camera Jpg settings as before.

If anyone happens to have both these cameras, and feels like taking a comparison shot of the same scene (perhaps an outdoor scene, in soft not harsh light, using the Natural profile), and seeing if the two cameras take the same quality Jpg when using the same settings, that would be appreciated.

If someone reading this doesn't have both these cameras, but has more than one Olympus camera, then it might be an interesting topic to post on this site - showing a comparison Jpg from more than one Olympus camera, so people can judge the quality difference between different models. e.g. if someone said "here is a Jpg from an EM5 vs the same Jpg from an EM1, etc.", that would be interesting, and I haven't seen it done before on this forum.

Do you see this over Oly’s own RAW processing?

I have an E-M10 II and an E-P5 - I have not done a back-to-back test of the same subject, but my instinct would be that the jpeg output of the M10 is sharper and more contrasty. If I get suitable conditions over the next few days, I will have a go at setting up a test.

My observations between the two cameras have been more about usability - I prefer using the viewfinder on the M10 as fitting the VF-4 to the E-P5 makes the latter more cumbersome to use and especially to store in my bag when not using it.  Granted the VF-4 gives me the option of an angled shot, but I have not found I need that very much.

essH wrote:

I have an E-M10 II and an E-P5 - I have not done a back-to-back test of the same subject, but my instinct would be that the jpeg output of the M10 is sharper and more contrasty. If I get suitable conditions over the next few days, I will have a go at setting up a test.

Thanks that would be interesting.

My observations between the two cameras have been more about usability - I prefer using the viewfinder on the M10 as fitting the VF-4 to the E-P5 makes the latter more cumbersome to use and especially to store in my bag when not using it. Granted the VF-4 gives me the option of an angled shot, but I have not found I need that very much.

I agree, the E-P5 was classy without the EVF, but very ugly with it, and awkward in a bag. The M10 II is a beautiful camera with its EVF, and had a more discreet profile for street shooting. I find it makes a difference to the overall enjoyment of a photographic session to use a beautiful tool. I never used the angled EVF either.

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essH wrote:

I have an E-M10 II and an E-P5 - I have not done a back-to-back test of the same subject, but my instinct would be that the jpeg output of the M10 is sharper and more contrasty. If I get suitable conditions over the next few days, I will have a go at setting up a test.

I have just done a quick test in less than ideal conditions - the sunlight was not 100% constant so although most of the settings were the same, the shutter speed varied slightly - probably because my viewpoint shifted slightly - sorry about that.

As you can see, I used the 17/1.8 lens on 3 bodies - E-M10 II, E-P5 and E-M5 II and the results are not quite what I expected and I don't feel reflect what I know of the M10. I hope I can repeat the test in slightly more controlled conditions and a better subject matter.

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmgeq1y1

Guy Parsons wrote:

Thank you. It's a start but truly the best way is to provide the raw files from your future experiments so we can either use OV3 to see what the camera would do, or use the raw converter of our choice to see what we would get out of the various cameras.

Regards.... Guy

I understand your point, but I am responding to the OP's specific question about jpegs.

I already gave my unscientific view about E-M10 II versus E-P5 and I was disappointed by my somewhat rushed results in the garden.  I went through my past jpegs and could not find any direct comparisons between the cameras, and so far I have not saved RAW from the E-P5, which I acquired secondhand as a second body to my E-M10 II, on which I save RAW + Jpeg. I intend to redo my tests as my personal feeling is that this time the M10 came out worse than its siblings (which is not what I had noticed previously). If I remember, I will collect RAW from the Pen.

Straying from the original post somewhat, I know from your posts that you use E-P5s currently; that demonstrates the diversity of our community. I started out wanting to like the Pen, but the O-MD format seems to suit me better.  I had the chance recently of a weekend shooting with a Pen-F and an E-M5 II; to my surprise, I ended up preferring the M5 - but it was a marginal call, based as much on personal ergonomics as on results and some of my Pen-F shots are remarkable.

essH wrote:

essH wrote:

I have an E-M10 II and an E-P5 - I have not done a back-to-back test of the same subject, but my instinct would be that the jpeg output of the M10 is sharper and more contrasty. If I get suitable conditions over the next few days, I will have a go at setting up a test.

I have just done a quick test in less than ideal conditions - the sunlight was not 100% constant so although most of the settings were the same, the shutter speed varied slightly - probably because my viewpoint shifted slightly - sorry about that.

As you can see, I used the 17/1.8 lens on 3 bodies - E-M10 II, E-P5 and E-M5 II and the results are not quite what I expected and I don't feel reflect what I know of the M10. I hope I can repeat the test in slightly more controlled conditions and a better subject matter.

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmgeq1y1

Hi, thanks. Yes, jpgs are all I'm interested in. The test will need to be on a tripod though, so the framing doesn't change at all, since that can easily affect exposure and contrast. Also you might want to use a simpler scene, not one with complex fauna, I think it will be easier to compare contrast with larger elements in the picture.