D850 Lens Advice - what to get? 35mm f1.8?

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hwg Contributing Member • Posts: 604
D850 Lens Advice - what to get? 35mm f1.8?

I'm looking for a general purpose everyday lens for a new D850.

I'm just a hobbyist and have never really looked at FX lenses.

I would like to keep the price around the 500 GBP mark (maybe a bit more) as most of the money is going on the camera. I'll start saving again.

I want sharpness and good contrast

Basically just a nice picture.

I considered the 24-70 but big and heavy and expensive, also i'm getting old.

I was thinking that the Nikon 35mm f1.8 G ED AF-S Nikkor Lens
but it doesn't have Nano Crystal Coat,

Is that an issue; really?

It might be a good choice but...
am i right, any thoughts?

I'm upgrading from a D300 with a
Nikon 35mm 1.8 DX
Nikon 18-200mm DX
Nikon 105mm FX

Sigma 150 - 500 full frame

So i am expecting to see a bit of an improvemnt

Also what is the opinion of the Nikon 50mm f1.8 G AF-S Lens

At 200 GBP it seems too cheap!!

but I'm open to any other suggestions.

Thanks

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HP1999 Senior Member • Posts: 4,192
Re: D850 Lens Advice - what to get? 35mm f1.8?
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Nikon 24-85 VR is a good lens.  I used it with my D850 when I wanted to go a bit lighter.

Lukiano
Lukiano Junior Member • Posts: 33
Re: D850 Lens Advice - what to get? 35mm f1.8?
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The Nikon 35mm 1.8 DX works quite well on full frame, wide open.

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Daniel Bliss Senior Member • Posts: 1,872
Re: D850 Lens Advice - what to get? 35mm f1.8?
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If you're not already committed to the d850 you might want to consider the D750, which is quite a bit lighter and more compact and very nice from an ergonomic standpoint, being that it's probably the smallest 35mm format full-frame DSLR on the market. Your situation and the types of uses and glass you outline say "D750" to me.

Whether you're putting it on a D750 or a D850 the FX 35 f1.8G ED is an excellent lens. Relatively inexpensive, lightweight, very sharp, very good contrast and well up to the resolution demands of current cameras. Note that there's a slightly gritty look to the bokeh at about f2.5 or wider which may not be for some people but this probably won't be too much of a problem in practice. Nikon's 28mm lenses, at least the current f1.8 and f1.4, are actually a bit better bokeh wise than the 35 ones.

romfordbluenose Veteran Member • Posts: 3,712
Re: D850 Lens Advice - what to get? 35mm f1.8?
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HP1999 wrote:

Nikon 24-85 VR is a good lens. I used it with my D850 when I wanted to go a bit lighter.

+1. The 24-85 is my general walk around lens on my D800. The 50mm are also great lens, they're very cheap because they're cheap and easy to make. Also it would be equivalent to your 35mm DX.

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morinor Contributing Member • Posts: 763
Re: D850 Lens Advice - what to get? 35mm f1.8?

Daniel Bliss wrote:

If you're not already committed to the d850 you might want to consider the D750, which is quite a bit lighter and more compact and very nice from an ergonomic standpoint, being that it's probably the smallest 35mm format full-frame DSLR on the market. Your situation and the types of uses and glass you outline say "D750" to me.

Whether you're putting it on a D750 or a D850 the FX 35 f1.8G ED is an excellent lens. Relatively inexpensive, lightweight, very sharp, very good contrast and well up to the resolution demands of current cameras. Note that there's a slightly gritty look to the bokeh at about f2.5 or wider which may not be for some people but this probably won't be too much of a problem in practice. Nikon's 28mm lenses, at least the current f1.8 and f1.4, are actually a bit better bokeh wise than the 35 ones.

Yes I had a similar feeling. Why to spend so much money on a camera and not spend on lens. You need a good lens in order to take advantage of high resolution of a D850. You will still get great pictures with an D750. The good thing is that you already have some FF lenses. I would suggest you to get something between 35-50mm.

As prime lenses I suggest you a Sigma 35mm Art f/1.4 or Sigma 50mm Art f/1.4. As a cheaper solution you could get a Tamron 45mm f/1.8 VC. Nikon 50 mm f/1.8 is as always a the cheapest and good solution. Still it should not be a target if you want to pair it with a D850. It can be only just a lighter solution on situations that you find this handy. I can suggest you also the Tamron 35mm f/1.8 VC, but search around for some pictures. It produces some strange bokeh that personally I don't like it.

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j_photo Veteran Member • Posts: 3,474
Re: D850 Lens Advice - what to get? 35mm f1.8?
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I shoot with the nikon 28/1.8 and sigma 35/1.4 on my d800. The sigma is sharper. But I prefer the wider view of the 28. The 28 is also very light. Not a bad lens to start out with, in my opinion.

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Leonard Migliore
Leonard Migliore Forum Pro • Posts: 16,279
Re: D850 Lens Advice - what to get? 35mm f1.8?
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Lukiano wrote:

The Nikon 35mm 1.8 DX works quite well on full frame, wide open.

I have a 35mm f/1.8G DX lens; I use it on my D300. It's not really a full-frame lens. As you note, you need to use it wide open to minimize vignetting. And its already poor color correction gets miserable on full-frame. So I would only use it on an FX camera in an emergency or for some special effect.

I bought the 35mm f/1.8G FX lens for my D750 and it's dramatically better. Actually covers the whole frame with a sharp image at any f/stop, which is sort of what you want in a lens.

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ihasa
ihasa Regular Member • Posts: 107
Re: D850 Lens Advice - what to get? 35mm f1.8?

The Nikon 50mm f1.8 G AF-S is a good lens, and will replace the field of view you are used to with your 35mm DX prime.

If weight is a big issue, you might want to look at the old Tamron 28-75 f2.8 rather than the newer 24-70mm lenses. Much smaller and lighter and not at all bad IQ for the price.

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Lukiano
Lukiano Junior Member • Posts: 33
Re: D850 Lens Advice - what to get? 35mm f1.8?
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Leonard Migliore wrote:

Lukiano wrote:

The Nikon 35mm 1.8 DX works quite well on full frame, wide open.

I have a 35mm f/1.8G DX lens; I use it on my D300. It's not really a full-frame lens. As you note, you need to use it wide open to minimize vignetting. And its already poor color correction gets miserable on full-frame. So I would only use it on an FX camera in an emergency or for some special effect.

I bought the 35mm f/1.8G FX lens for my D750 and it's dramatically better. Actually covers the whole frame with a sharp image at any f/stop, which is sort of what you want in a lens.

I had a different experience with the 35 DX on a d850, but that’s fine , we can both have different opinions. Also, I’ve never tried the 35 1.8 FX, so I’m not seeing it isn’t better than the 35 DX, it probably is. All I’m saying is that since the op already has the 35 DX, can test it on a full frame camera and know it if it’s enough, or at least get a grasp of the POV and then decide, if the vignette is unbearable, on a 35 1.8 FX, the 35 1.4, or the sigma 35 1.4.

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jshen808
jshen808 Senior Member • Posts: 7,411
Re: D850 Lens Advice - what to get? 35mm f1.8?

Lukiano wrote:

Leonard Migliore wrote:

Lukiano wrote:

The Nikon 35mm 1.8 DX works quite well on full frame, wide open.

I have a 35mm f/1.8G DX lens; I use it on my D300. It's not really a full-frame lens. As you note, you need to use it wide open to minimize vignetting. And its already poor color correction gets miserable on full-frame. So I would only use it on an FX camera in an emergency or for some special effect.

I bought the 35mm f/1.8G FX lens for my D750 and it's dramatically better. Actually covers the whole frame with a sharp image at any f/stop, which is sort of what you want in a lens.

I had a different experience with the 35 DX on a d850, but that’s fine , we can both have different opinions. Also, I’ve never tried the 35 1.8 FX, so I’m not seeing it isn’t better than the 35 DX, it probably is. All I’m saying is that since the op already has the 35 DX, can test it on a full frame camera and know it if it’s enough, or at least get a grasp of the POV and then decide, if the vignette is unbearable, on a 35 1.8 FX, the 35 1.4, or the sigma 35 1.4.

..Thanks for sharing your experiences..

..can you post a test picture using the D850 with the 35mm dx f/1.8 lens(?)..

..thanks..

..Cheers..

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calson Veteran Member • Posts: 9,193
Re: D850 Lens Advice - what to get? 35mm f1.8?

A top level lens on the D610 is going to produce higher quality images than a lesser lens on the D850. If I had a limited budget I would buy a used D800e camera and put the remainder into good glass.

If the 24-70mm f/2.8 is too heavy then frankly I would recommend you put your money into a MFT system with its smaller and lighter cameras and much smaller and much lighter lenses.

The Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8 weighs 1.98 lb whereas the Olympus equivalent, their 12-40mm f/2.8 lens (FX 24-80mm) weighs only 0.84 lb, and the Olympus lens costs half as much as the Nikon non-VR 24-70mm zoom.

If you do go with the D850 a lighter and less expensive alternative to the Nikon 24-70mm lens is the Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 that sell new for $399 and weighs only 1.12 lb or roughly half the weight of the Nikon lens.

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mais51
mais51 Senior Member • Posts: 2,481
Re: D850 Lens Advice - what to get? 35mm f1.8?

hwg wrote:

I'm looking for a general purpose everyday lens for a new D850.

I'm just a hobbyist and have never really looked at FX lenses.

I would like to keep the price around the 500 GBP mark (maybe a bit more) as most of the money is going on the camera. I'll start saving again.

I want sharpness and good contrast

Basically just a nice picture.

I considered the 24-70 but big and heavy and expensive, also i'm getting old.

I was thinking that the Nikon 35mm f1.8 G ED AF-S Nikkor Lens
but it doesn't have Nano Crystal Coat,

Is that an issue; really?

It might be a good choice but...
am i right, any thoughts?

I'm upgrading from a D300 with a
Nikon 35mm 1.8 DX
Nikon 18-200mm DX
Nikon 105mm FX

Sigma 150 - 500 full frame

So i am expecting to see a bit of an improvemnt

Also what is the opinion of the Nikon 50mm f1.8 G AF-S Lens

At 200 GBP it seems too cheap!!

but I'm open to any other suggestions.

Thanks

I am happy with my AFS-18-35 F 3.5-4.5G lens - cheap, light, sharp and wide.

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gnet158 Senior Member • Posts: 2,612
Re: D850 Lens Advice - what to get? 35mm f1.8?

35mm is my favorite prime focal length too.  I have the Sigma 35mm f1.4, a bit out of your price range.  However I've owned and really liked the Nikon 35mm F2 D lens, very light weight, sharp and fast.  I stupidly sold it.  Make sure you get the D version, the non D are prone to have oil in the blades.

Good luck!

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OP hwg Contributing Member • Posts: 604
Re: D850 Lens Advice - what to get? 35mm f1.8?

Hi

Thanks for all the responses

Basically I'm getting a D850 for extra sharpness, compared to my D300, that shouldn't be too hard to achieve.

So I think the only zoom I would consider is the 24-70 f2.8

So after readying all the replies I guess the question I am really asking is;

Is the 35mm f1.8 good enough for a D850?

I get the impression it is.

The alternative is the other 35mm which Nikon produce at 3x the price.

I wound what the image quality would be between the two 35mm, can't imagine it will be 3 times better J

Thanks for the responses.

I will start with the 35mm and then add the 50mm and 85mm as time goes by.

thanks again

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j_photo Veteran Member • Posts: 3,474
Re: D850 Lens Advice - what to get? 35mm f1.8?

Some here think Thom Hogan is a reliable reviewer (I do too). The 35/1.8G and 35/1.4G are both on his recommended list for D8xx bodies.

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morinor Contributing Member • Posts: 763
Re: D850 Lens Advice - what to get? 35mm f1.8?

hwg wrote:

Hi

Thanks for all the responses

Basically I'm getting a D850 for extra sharpness, compared to my D300, that shouldn't be too hard to achieve.

So I think the only zoom I would consider is the 24-70 f2.8

So after readying all the replies I guess the question I am really asking is;

Is the 35mm f1.8 good enough for a D850?

I get the impression it is.

The alternative is the other 35mm which Nikon produce at 3x the price.

I wound what the image quality would be between the two 35mm, can't imagine it will be 3 times better J

Thanks for the responses.

I will start with the 35mm and then add the 50mm and 85mm as time goes by.

thanks again

There are just better thirdparty 35mm lenses than Nikon 35mm f/1.8G, with more reasonable value than Nikon 35mm f/1.4G. You should avoid them if you do not want to focus calibrate them. Not meaning that the Nikon are going to have perfect focus.

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danmitch
danmitch Regular Member • Posts: 358
Re: D850 Lens Advice - what to get? 35mm f1.8?

A different suggestion - 35mm is my favourite focal length by far, take a look at the Zeiss Milvus 35mm f2 - if you can deal with manual focus, it is in my opinion an outstanding lens and I found it performed better than the Nikon 35mm f1.4, albeit a slower lens. I agonised over the choice and there is some commentary in this article on my blog , but the short version is that I have not used a better 35mm lens (including Leica, a couple of Nikons and others.)

You can save some money by getting the previous version, Zeiss Distagon 35mm f2 which is a different exterior but IDENTICAL optical design.

Hope this helps (but fear it may make it a more difficult decision)

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