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Started Mar 20, 2018 | User reviews
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HudsonBob
HudsonBob Junior Member • Posts: 48
What a POS

I think I may have gotten a bad copy, but every picture I took was so soft and slightly out of focus.  This lens is no better than my Nikon 55-300, which is also a POS.

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Astrotripper Veteran Member • Posts: 8,676
Bad luck I guess?

HudsonBob wrote:

I think I may have gotten a bad copy, but every picture I took was so soft and slightly out of focus. This lens is no better than my Nikon 55-300, which is also a POS.

Then you definitely got a faulty lens, as mine is quite good in most cases even at the longest end. In the 100-200mm range, it is simply very good. Judge for yourself .

Return it for a refund or another copy.

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Kurt_K Contributing Member • Posts: 750
Re: What a POS

User error, most likely. I've used three different copies of the Panny 100-300 over the years (two of my own and one of my wife's) and all have performed very well. Long slow lenses require good technique. There's just no getting around that.

Aberaeron Forum Pro • Posts: 10,184
Re: What a POS

Kurt_K wrote:

User error, most likely. I've used three different copies of the Panny 100-300 over the years (two of my own and one of my wife's) and all have performed very well. Long slow lenses require good technique. There's just no getting around that.

I've no real complaint about sharpness from my Mk1 but do object strongly to the stiction mine suffers from the manual focus ring. Its so bad that manual focussing at 200mm and more is virtually impossible. That's just where manual focusing is most useful.

I would not buy this lens again as a result.

Holistic Photog Contributing Member • Posts: 719
How about some samples?

HudsonBob wrote:

I think I may have gotten a bad copy, but every picture I took was so soft and slightly out of focus. This lens is no better than my Nikon 55-300, which is also a POS.

Maybe you got a bad copy. Maybe not. It's hard to know without more info.

dmanthree
dmanthree Forum Pro • Posts: 10,309
Try another copy

I have this lens, and it's exceeded my expectations every time. You must have a bad copy.

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Roger Engelken
Roger Engelken Veteran Member • Posts: 5,558
Re: What a POS

Happy now?

Probably not.

Take a look in the mirror and  then 

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yahoo2u
yahoo2u Contributing Member • Posts: 715
Re: What a POS

HudsonBob wrote:

I think I may have gotten a bad copy, but every picture I took was so soft and slightly out of focus. This lens is no better than my Nikon 55-300, which is also a POS.

Maybe your technique may be in the boundaries of "POS"

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rashid7
rashid7 Veteran Member • Posts: 7,011
Re: What a POS

Aberaeron wrote:

Kurt_K wrote:

User error, most likely. I've used three different copies of the Panny 100-300 over the years (two of my own and one of my wife's) and all have performed very well. Long slow lenses require good technique. There's just no getting around that.

I've no real complaint about sharpness from my Mk1 but do object strongly to the stiction mine suffers from the manual focus ring. Its so bad that manual focussing at 200mm and more is virtually impossible. That's just where manual focusing is most useful.

I would not buy this lens again as a result.

+1   Not the smoothest zoom; as u say, terribly rough focus... wish i could spray some dry teflon lubricant inside (-:

Pretty sharp,  & a "cracker" at short end!

Is the mk2 much better?

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Kharan
Kharan Senior Member • Posts: 2,487
Re: What a POS

HudsonBob wrote:

I think I may have gotten a bad copy, but every picture I took was so soft and slightly out of focus. This lens is no better than my Nikon 55-300, which is also a POS.

Did you use your G85 to shoot it? It shouldn't give any problems, but it's well known that that lens is very sensitive to shutter shock, which would cause symptoms compatible with what you're describing.

Care to upload some samples?

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Aberaeron Forum Pro • Posts: 10,184
Re: What a POS

rashid7 wrote:

Aberaeron wrote:

Kurt_K wrote:

User error, most likely. I've used three different copies of the Panny 100-300 over the years (two of my own and one of my wife's) and all have performed very well. Long slow lenses require good technique. There's just no getting around that.

I've no real complaint about sharpness from my Mk1 but do object strongly to the stiction mine suffers from the manual focus ring. Its so bad that manual focussing at 200mm and more is virtually impossible. That's just where manual focusing is most useful.

I would not buy this lens again as a result.

+1 Not the smoothest zoom; as u say, terribly rough focus... wish i could spray some dry teflon lubricant inside (-:

Pretty sharp, & a "cracker" at short end!

Is the mk2 much better?

The MkII had better be better, because my example of very late build MkI  Is so unpleasant to use that it is actually barely acceptable for manual focus. I'd go further and say that it just isn't acceptable. Since it is impossible to manually focus on the long end when I really need it, the lens can't be described as anything other than unacceptable.

This may be just my lens and other's may be better, but I can only comment from my own experience.  I've tried turning the focus ring and the zoom ring multiple times but while the zoom seems to have improved somewhat, the focus is as sticky and jerky as ever.  It hasn't been used all that much [Its not been on the camera for more that a couple of hours intermittent shooting in total] and is as clean as when it came out of the box.

katastrofa Senior Member • Posts: 1,034
Re: What a POS

It's not a review, it's a rant.

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katastrofa Senior Member • Posts: 1,034
Re: What a POS

I have a different problem with using manual focus on my PL 100-400. The manual focusing ring is moving smoothly, but the weight of the lens makes it hard for me to operate it with sufficient precision. I did not have such problems with my Olympus 75-300 lens. Luckily with the new firmware providing the ultra small focus box, I can use autofocus practically always.

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(unknown member) Forum Pro • Posts: 11,837
Re: What a POS

Nine times out of 10 it is the user who is a POS when it comes to using long lenses.

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Eric Nepean
Eric Nepean Veteran Member • Posts: 6,209
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katastrofa wrote:

I have a different problem with using manual focus on my PL 100-400. The manual focusing ring is moving smoothly, but the weight of the lens makes it hard for me to operate it with sufficient precision. I did not have such problems with my Olympus 75-300 lens. Luckily with the new firmware providing the ultra small focus box, I can use autofocus practically always.

I have the same issue. A monopod is helpful.

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ijm5012 Senior Member • Posts: 1,889
Re: What a POS

HudsonBob wrote:

I think I may have gotten a bad copy, but every picture I took was so soft and slightly out of focus. This lens is no better than my Nikon 55-300, which is also a POS.

Sounds to me like you have a bad copy. The copy I have is perfectly fine from a sharpness perspective. Why not share some of your shots to show what you're talking about?

The first three shots are a brick wall at 50 ft., at 200mm, 250mm, and 300mm, all wide open. Final shot is also at 300mm f/5.6.

For a $600 lens (I paid roughly 2/3 that price for mine), it seems OK to me...

50 ft. focusing distance, 200mm f/5.0 (wide open)

50 ft. focusing distance, 250mm f/5.4 (wide open)

50 ft. focusing distance, 300mm f/5.6 (wide open)

300mm f/5.6 (wide open)

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tjuster1 Senior Member • Posts: 2,241
Re: What a POS

LOL, these user "reviews" are so worthless.

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Androole Senior Member • Posts: 1,455
Try a Tripod and a Remote Release

HudsonBob wrote:

I think I may have gotten a bad copy, but every picture I took was so soft and slightly out of focus. This lens is no better than my Nikon 55-300, which is also a POS.

I know that it's no fun at all, but if you're having trouble getting sharp shots, try putting your lens on a tripod and using a remote shutter release to trigger it.

I think you'll find that the image quality magically increases by a dramatic margin.

As for me, the pleasure and usability of having an ultra-long lens that is actually handholdable trumped ultimate image quality and pixel-level resolution concerns. Compared to manual focus telephotos, even high grade ones, the keeper rate is just so much higher, even if the quality of that one, lucky, perfect shot is not quite as good.

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(unknown member) Senior Member • Posts: 1,398
Re: What a POS

NCV wrote:

Nine times out of 10 it is the user who is a POS when it comes to using long lenses.

LOL - that sounds like me - Over the years, I've come to realize i generally suck at much of anything beyond 200mm.

I do see people complain about bad long lenses and then when you see the exif data they are shooting them at ridiculously low shutter speeds for hand holding. When I'm shooting my 75-300 at 300, just my heart beating makes the lens jump. Not saying this is the case with the OP, but hard to say without examples posted. Even with IBIS, at 300mm I try to stick to the old rule of thumb of 1/FL or 1/600. I know IBIS will allow cheating on that rule of thumb, but not so much for me. I must have shaky hands!

Also shooting a consumer grade lens and expecting National Geographic results, especially at extreme telephoto, might be asking a bit much, although I see many excellent results posted.

Or the OP could indeed have a bad copy.

Nomoreheroes
Nomoreheroes Regular Member • Posts: 374
Re: What a POS

HudsonBob wrote:

I think I may have gotten a bad copy, but every picture I took was so soft and slightly out of focus. This lens is no better than my Nikon 55-300, which is also a POS.

I also wish I never bought it

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