Sigma will release new APS-C lens this fall, will make more APS-C lenses "if response is good."

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rjjr Forum Pro • Posts: 14,550
Re: Sigma will release new APS-C lens this fall, will make more APS-C lenses "if response is good."

someguy50 wrote:

Why is the $1000 70-300 my only option? I want a $250-400 one, like there are on every other mount

I guess it's a matter of POV, my 70-300 replaced 4 of my Canon L lenses which cost about $5000 so, after selling those Canon lenses, for me the 70-400 was a bargain and gives me better sharpness, IQ and AF.

UllerellU New Member • Posts: 19
Re: Sigma will release new APS-C lens this fall, will make more APS-C lenses "if response is good."

david8732 wrote:

GadgetBorg wrote:

Please be a native version of the incredible 18-35 f1.8 with silent autofocus in video.

That would be perfection personified.

That would be more than good. With a current zoom 16-55 f2.8 they make me happy. With an 18-35 f1.8, and if they have to redesign for mirrorlens and make a 16-33 f1.8 sharp across the range, take my  1200€ Now!. I was left with only three lenses, the 1.8 zoom, the excellent 50mm f1.8 and the macro lens.

rjjr Forum Pro • Posts: 14,550
Re: Sigma will release new APS-C lens this fall, will make more APS-C lenses "if response is good."

GadgetBorg wrote:

Please be a native version of the incredible 18-35 f1.8 with silent autofocus in video.

I love the output of my 18-35/1.8 Art/MC-11 combo.  A native version might be the only thing that would make me give mine up.

someguy50 Regular Member • Posts: 231
Re: Sigma will release new APS-C lens this fall, will make more APS-C lenses "if response is good."

rjjr wrote:

someguy50 wrote:

Why is the $1000 70-300 my only option? I want a $250-400 one, like there are on every other mount

I guess it's a matter of POV, my 70-300 replaced 4 of my Canon L lenses which cost about $5000 so, after selling those Canon lenses, for me the 70-400 was a bargain and gives me better sharpness, IQ and AF.

That's your experience using the 70-300 on crop bodies? Hmm, I read mixed things last year. Perhaps I'll rent one

UncleChip Regular Member • Posts: 180
Re: Sigma will release new APS-C lens this fall, will make more APS-C lenses "if response is good."

50mmf1.4 is a great portrait lens, it has to be 1.4 because of the crop factor

16mm f1.4

30mm f1.4

50mm f1.4

if the 50 holds true to form then that’s excellent glass that’s affordable, add  12mm f1.8/2 and an 85mm f1.4 and we are getting there,

i have been seriously thinking about the 55mmf1.8, it’s small and light enough, I can use it on the ff, but it’s a lot of ££ for a 1.8 on a crop, 1.4 on a crop is 2.1 equivalent on a ff, the 55f1.8 is almost a 2.8 so the 50f1.4 is a welcome sight, this sounds picky, but a stop can make a lot of difference at this end of the scale,

we are desperately missing quality longer zooms, give us the 100-400 apsc equivalent,  at least the 70-300 equivalent,

sigma made a 100-300f2.8, it was a beast of a lens, but with teleconverters actually very versatile, now give us that for the apsc

I find the 18-35mm f2.8 to be a strange focal length for photography, not a great cover as a general lens, probably a great video lens, but the 16 and 30 primes are smaller and lighter, or I would go for a more versatile lens like the 17-70 f4

anyhow I am pleased they intend to release more lenses, my a6500 is my travel kit, but as better lenses are now available/becoming available/rumored about I find I am using it more whenever I have to carry kit for any distance,

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Switcheroo Regular Member • Posts: 197
Re: Sigma will release new APS-C lens this fall, will make more APS-C lenses "if response is good."

I have the 60mm f2.8 and love it, it's my favorite lens. While I never used the Sony 50mm f1.8 I did have a vintage Minolta 50mm f1.4. I never really liked that FL on APS-C, I much prefer the additional compression of the 60mm.

That's why I hope they bring out a 60mm f1.4 with the usual Sigma sharpness and some workable bokeh. That would be a killer lens and I would probably do anything to get one. Another 50mm doesn't make much sense IMHO.

Then again I never used a longer FL than that. Tomorrow I'm receiving the 18-135... Maybe I'll fall in love with even longer FLs (85,100,135).

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rjjr Forum Pro • Posts: 14,550
Re: Sigma will release new APS-C lens this fall, will make more APS-C lenses "if response is good."

someguy50 wrote:

rjjr wrote:

someguy50 wrote:

Why is the $1000 70-300 my only option? I want a $250-400 one, like there are on every other mount

I guess it's a matter of POV, my 70-300 replaced 4 of my Canon L lenses which cost about $5000 so, after selling those Canon lenses, for me the 70-400 was a bargain and gives me better sharpness, IQ and AF.

That's your experience using the 70-300 on crop bodies?

Yes. Based on images using the 70-300 I saw on the 'net I ordered it at the local shop shortly after they were released, tried it, liked it, bought it, dumped the 4 Canon lenses I had with FLs in that range.

Hmm, I read mixed things last year. Perhaps I'll rent one

Good idea, see if it works for you.

Eniigma_21
Eniigma_21 Contributing Member • Posts: 655
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someguy50 wrote:

Maybe my standards are lower, or the wonderful sigma primes fit that need for me. I want an inexpensive longer zoom. Why is the $1000 70-300 my only option? I want a $250-400 one, like there are on every other mount

Same here, my 55-210 is not enough reach for my needs but i have to work with what i have. The 70-300 isn't a big step up in reach and the FE100-400 is WAY out of my budget. I've seen many users reports quality control issues with 70-300, not with the FE100-400.

I hope one day either sigma or tamron can make their super zoom 150-600 for E-mount. Even their 100-400 released last year for DSLR, sells for $800, it would be great options.

Maybe one day...

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rjjr Forum Pro • Posts: 14,550
Re: Third party Telephotos

Eniigma_21 wrote:

someguy50 wrote:

Maybe my standards are lower, or the wonderful sigma primes fit that need for me. I want an inexpensive longer zoom. Why is the $1000 70-300 my only option? I want a $250-400 one, like there are on every other mount

I've seen many users reports quality control issues with 70-300, not with the FE100-400.

Where have you seen these reports of QC issues with the 70-300? I haven't seen any but then I haven't been looking, however I usually notice that stuff. I haven't had any issues with my 70-300 at all. In fact, I used it earlier this morning.

liopleurodon Contributing Member • Posts: 719
Re: Third party Telephotos

Eniigma_21 wrote:

someguy50 wrote:

Maybe my standards are lower, or the wonderful sigma primes fit that need for me. I want an inexpensive longer zoom. Why is the $1000 70-300 my only option? I want a $250-400 one, like there are on every other mount

Same here, my 55-210 is not enough reach for my needs but i have to work with what i have. The 70-300 isn't a big step up in reach and the FE100-400 is WAY out of my budget. I've seen many users reports quality control issues with 70-300, not with the FE100-400.

I hope one day either sigma or tamron can make their super zoom 150-600 for E-mount. Even their 100-400 released last year for DSLR, sells for $800, it would be great options.

Maybe one day...

I though the big Sigma Canon zooms worked on e-mount with an MC11?

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Eniigma_21
Eniigma_21 Contributing Member • Posts: 655
Re: Third party Telephotos

rjjr wrote:

Eniigma_21 wrote:

someguy50 wrote:

Maybe my standards are lower, or the wonderful sigma primes fit that need for me. I want an inexpensive longer zoom. Why is the $1000 70-300 my only option? I want a $250-400 one, like there are on every other mount

I've seen many users reports quality control issues with 70-300, not with the FE100-400.

Where have you seen these reports of QC issues with the 70-300? I haven't seen any but then I haven't been looking, however I usually notice that stuff. I haven't had any issues with my 70-300 at all. In fact, I used it earlier this morning.

Check here, mixed user reports: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4212163

Also, recently user Joachim Wulfers had to sent his to repair and waited two months. Can't find the thread where he tells the reasons.

Two threads where he mention this:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4293151

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4312426

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UllerellU New Member • Posts: 19
Re: Sigma will release new APS-C lens this fall, will make more APS-C lenses "if response is good."

Without OSS I do not see any sense in a lens longer than 50mm (75mm equiv.). Not in A6000 / 6300

rjjr Forum Pro • Posts: 14,550
Re: Third party Telephotos

liopleurodon wrote:

Eniigma_21 wrote:

someguy50 wrote:

Maybe my standards are lower, or the wonderful sigma primes fit that need for me. I want an inexpensive longer zoom. Why is the $1000 70-300 my only option? I want a $250-400 one, like there are on every other mount

Same here, my 55-210 is not enough reach for my needs but i have to work with what i have. The 70-300 isn't a big step up in reach and the FE100-400 is WAY out of my budget. I've seen many users reports quality control issues with 70-300, not with the FE100-400.

I hope one day either sigma or tamron can make their super zoom 150-600 for E-mount. Even their 100-400 released last year for DSLR, sells for $800, it would be great options.

Maybe one day...

I though the big Sigma Canon zooms worked on e-mount with an MC11?

My Sigma 150-600 C works fine with the MC-11.

liopleurodon Contributing Member • Posts: 719
Re: Third party Telephotos

rjjr wrote:

liopleurodon wrote:

Eniigma_21 wrote:

someguy50 wrote:

Maybe my standards are lower, or the wonderful sigma primes fit that need for me. I want an inexpensive longer zoom. Why is the $1000 70-300 my only option? I want a $250-400 one, like there are on every other mount

Same here, my 55-210 is not enough reach for my needs but i have to work with what i have. The 70-300 isn't a big step up in reach and the FE100-400 is WAY out of my budget. I've seen many users reports quality control issues with 70-300, not with the FE100-400.

I hope one day either sigma or tamron can make their super zoom 150-600 for E-mount. Even their 100-400 released last year for DSLR, sells for $800, it would be great options.

Maybe one day...

I though the big Sigma Canon zooms worked on e-mount with an MC11?

My Sigma 150-600 C works fine with the MC-11.

I'd love to try one of those, I wonder how its performance is with the MBIV?

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rjjr Forum Pro • Posts: 14,550
Re: Third party Telephotos

Eniigma_21 wrote:

rjjr wrote:

Eniigma_21 wrote:

someguy50 wrote:

Maybe my standards are lower, or the wonderful sigma primes fit that need for me. I want an inexpensive longer zoom. Why is the $1000 70-300 my only option? I want a $250-400 one, like there are on every other mount

I've seen many users reports quality control issues with 70-300, not with the FE100-400.

Where have you seen these reports of QC issues with the 70-300? I haven't seen any but then I haven't been looking, however I usually notice that stuff. I haven't had any issues with my 70-300 at all. In fact, I used it earlier this morning.

Check here, mixed user reports: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4212163

Also, recently user Joachim Wulfers had to sent his to repair and waited two months. Can't find the thread where he tells the reasons.

Two threads where he mention this:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4293151

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4312426

The few complaints don't indicate any massive QC issue to me. Not like some lenses having issues with the multiple copies I've personally tried. Even then I know there are good ones out there but I just haven't found them.

My 70-300 works fine.

rjjr Forum Pro • Posts: 14,550
Re: Third party Telephotos

liopleurodon wrote:

rjjr wrote:

liopleurodon wrote:

Eniigma_21 wrote:

someguy50 wrote:

Maybe my standards are lower, or the wonderful sigma primes fit that need for me. I want an inexpensive longer zoom. Why is the $1000 70-300 my only option? I want a $250-400 one, like there are on every other mount

Same here, my 55-210 is not enough reach for my needs but i have to work with what i have. The 70-300 isn't a big step up in reach and the FE100-400 is WAY out of my budget. I've seen many users reports quality control issues with 70-300, not with the FE100-400.

I hope one day either sigma or tamron can make their super zoom 150-600 for E-mount. Even their 100-400 released last year for DSLR, sells for $800, it would be great options.

Maybe one day...

I though the big Sigma Canon zooms worked on e-mount with an MC11?

My Sigma 150-600 C works fine with the MC-11.

I'd love to try one of those, I wonder how its performance is with the MBIV?

Sorry, no clue. I've never tried it on one.

I'm using them with the A6300 and A6500.

rjjr Forum Pro • Posts: 14,550
Re: Sigma will release new APS-C lens this fall, will make more APS-C lenses "if response is good."

UllerellU wrote:

Without OSS I do not see any sense in a lens longer than 50mm (75mm equiv.). Not in A6000 / 6300

Same here, I use my A6300 for stabilized lenses and my A6500 for non-stabilized lenses.

Unless of course I'm using a tripod or other sufficiently stable external stabilization methods.

Eniigma_21
Eniigma_21 Contributing Member • Posts: 655
Re: Third party Telephotos

liopleurodon wrote:

Eniigma_21 wrote:

I hope one day either sigma or tamron can make their super zoom 150-600 for E-mount. Even their 100-400 released last year for DSLR, sells for $800, it would be great options.

Maybe one day...

I though the big Sigma Canon zooms worked on e-mount with an MC11?

They work, but of course, they have limitations in AF-C compared to native lenses. Even the "native" sigma art released this year have limitations in AF-C. It could work for you if you're willing to accept those limitations which may cause you to miss shots. YMMV.

This user report good functionality with A6000 (the weakest for adapted lenses):

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4132100

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seuadr Regular Member • Posts: 444
Re: Third party Telephotos

liopleurodon wrote:

Eniigma_21 wrote:

someguy50 wrote:

Maybe my standards are lower, or the wonderful sigma primes fit that need for me. I want an inexpensive longer zoom. Why is the $1000 70-300 my only option? I want a $250-400 one, like there are on every other mount

Same here, my 55-210 is not enough reach for my needs but i have to work with what i have. The 70-300 isn't a big step up in reach and the FE100-400 is WAY out of my budget. I've seen many users reports quality control issues with 70-300, not with the FE100-400.

I hope one day either sigma or tamron can make their super zoom 150-600 for E-mount. Even their 100-400 released last year for DSLR, sells for $800, it would be great options.

Maybe one day...

I though the big Sigma Canon zooms worked on e-mount with an MC11?

they do- both the 150-600 and 100-400 work pretty well with MC11 (latest firmware) and a6300/a6500. I've been using the 100-400 for a while now and really like it - my only regret is that sometimes i wish i'd gotten the 150-600 for the extra reach as adding at 1.4 TC to the 100-400 works well, but both the 100-400 and 150-600 are 5-6.3 so i end up losing some light that i wouldn't with the 150-600. That said, the 100-400 is a fair amount smaller and lighter so... :shrugs:

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