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Do you microadjust your lens?

Started Mar 5, 2018 | Polls
maboleth Contributing Member • Posts: 831
Do you microadjust your lens?

We all want our images 100% spot on, but do we use MA or get perfect results out of the box without any tweaking?
You don't have to use test charts, this is a general poll about MA usage.

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Yes, I adjust all of my lens, even by +/- 1. I fully optimize my body systems to be compatible with my lens collection.
39.1% 25  votes
Depending on the lens and only when I see that it is needed. I can have 5 lenses with zero adjustment, but one will front/back focus.
29.7% 19  votes
Never. All of my lenses are compatible out of the box or I don't mind that much, I'm not a pixel peeper.
31.3% 20  votes
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Doug_PS
Doug_PS Contributing Member • Posts: 812
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My view is: Take a bit of time when you get a new lens to determine if the combination of lens/body is spot on.  If not, give it a bit of AFMA as needed to correct and forget about it.  I’ve bought/sold many lenses over the years and can’t recall one that didn’t need at least a bit of AFMA.

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BirdShooter7 Veteran Member • Posts: 9,134
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I definitely check every lens and have several that benefit from AFMA.  In my opinion this is one of the best features to come out in recent history for SLR's.

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HowardLive Regular Member • Posts: 158
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I know I should microadjust my lenses (three zooms and three primes), but I'm still unsure of the best method for doing so. Advice (still) accepted.

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mkphoto79 Regular Member • Posts: 450
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Shooting with a Rebel doesnt leave me with many options......hoping to change that in the next few years maybe.

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RRAz Regular Member • Posts: 270
Re: Do you microadjust your lens?

HowardLive wrote:

I know I should microadjust my lenses (three zooms and three primes), but I'm still unsure of the best method for doing so. Advice (still) accepted.

Yeah, that's me. I feel like I should, but I from what I've read it sounds quite tedious, and or I need to buy specialized software to do it ... I guess that makes me lazy? I barely get time to shoot, let alone tweak.

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BlueRay2 Forum Pro • Posts: 14,816
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i have never felt any need to F* with my "L" lenses because they were sharp and tuned right out of the box and still are! some people like to fix something that is not broke and that is when they screw up, IMO! i am not suggesting that all lenses are tuned correctly from the factory, obviously there are ones that need fine tuning, which is worth the effort.

BirdShooter7 Veteran Member • Posts: 9,134
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It is pretty tedious at first but once you get the hang of it, it isn't so bad.  If you are already happy with your results it probably isn't worth bothering with.  Most of my photography is with long focal lengths where problems are easier to notice.

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BirdShooter7 Veteran Member • Posts: 9,134
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The 600mm f4L IS II that I had for a while needed AFMA of +6 on all of my bodies and it sure made a difference once I corrected it.  The first 400mm f/4 DO mk2 that I tried needed +18 right out of the box.  The DO was so bad that it was exchanged right away.  Neither of those lenses is a budget model.  I wouldn't just trust that because it is an "L" lens that it can't benefit from AFMA.  Having said that my 100-400 mk2, 70-300L, 300mm f/2.8 mk1 and mk2 were all perfect out of the box.  If you are going to spend all that money on a lens I suggest it is worth at least checking that the AF is properly calibrated.

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BlueRay2 Forum Pro • Posts: 14,816
Re: Do you microadjust your lens?

BirdShooter7 wrote:

The 600mm f4L IS II that I had for a while needed AFMA of +6 on all of my bodies and it sure made a difference once I corrected it. The first 400mm f/4 DO mk2 that I tried needed +18 right out of the box. The DO was so bad that it was exchanged right away. Neither of those lenses is a budget model. I wouldn't just trust that because it is an "L" lens that it can't benefit from AFMA. Having said that my 100-400 mk2, 70-300L, 300mm f/2.8 mk1 and mk2 were all perfect out of the box. If you are going to spend all that money on a lens I suggest it is worth at least checking that the AF is properly calibrated.

no that you have mentioned it, i might try that! i know my 600 f4.0 II doesn't do well with both canon TC IIIs, so that might be one reason. i know my 300 f2.8 II is very sharp with/without TCs. but i might try my 100-400 II as well. my 100-400 II is pretty sharp without TC but slightly mushy (slightly noticeable) with using 1.4 III TC.  i have plenty of time so i could spend a few day doing it if i have to once the weather warms up a bit! thanks for the tip.

ffabrici Senior Member • Posts: 1,353
Yes of course
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I currently have around 15 lenses and have had and sold around 30+ other lenses and with a few exceptions they all needed some adjustments.

Small offsets were visible on 5Dc, but every offset is visible on 20+ Mpixel camera's when cropping and definitely when pixel peeping. I think it is a very little effort with a very significant impact when shooting lenses wide open. It doesn't fix camera misfocus though :-).

TheDigitalDonbavand Contributing Member • Posts: 858
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HowardLive wrote:

I know I should microadjust my lenses (three zooms and three primes), but I'm still unsure of the best method for doing so. Advice (still) accepted.

I am the same, I have a couple of lenses I think would benefit but have never been confident about how to do it without potentially causing more problems than I solve.  In particular how to ensure the target and sensor are completely parallel.  I feel like I have a little knowledge at the moment which can be a dangerous thing hence haven't dared mess with anything.

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dgumshu Veteran Member • Posts: 4,623
Re: Do you microadjust your lens?

Non of my lenses have needed adjustment and worked fine out of the box.  I've only had two that were soft and micro adjustment was not the issue.

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nail33 Senior Member • Posts: 1,054
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TheDigitalDonbavand wrote:

In particular how to ensure the target and sensor are completely parallel.

I believe that if you tape a flat mirror to a flat wall (the target in this case), it will solve that problem. When you see the camera lens in the center of both the mirror on the wall and the viewfinder of your camera, you will be parallel both horizontally and vertically.

jvc1 Senior Member • Posts: 2,202
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I check every lens I get, some need adjustment, some don't.

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OP maboleth Contributing Member • Posts: 831
My method
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This is my opinion of course, but I NEVER test focus with charts. Simply because I won't be shooting charts in real life.

What you actually need is to shoot what you normally do, lens wide open, under good light and look at the results. Before making any decisions, remove all possible causes for missed focus - zebra striped or low contrast objects, moving subjects, motion blur or shaken hand. Also learn the camera focus modes, not all are suitable for every case out there AND not every focus point has the same sensitivity. Camera manual is your friend.

If you shoot portraits and notice that more than 30% or so have soft focus or have nose/ears sharp even though you aimed for an eye, it's time to do the MA. Depending on the issue, back or front focus, start with +/-5-10 and then reduce the numbers to nail the focus even better.

And that's that really. The goal is to have more keepers with MA than before. If you get worse results with MA it's time to reduce the numbers or disable it/return to zero and check again.

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HowardLive wrote:

I know I should microadjust my lenses (three zooms and three primes), but I'm still unsure of the best method for doing so. Advice (still) accepted.

I am the same, I have a couple of lenses I think would benefit but have never been confident about how to do it without potentially causing more problems than I solve. In particular how to ensure the target and sensor are completely parallel. I feel like I have a little knowledge at the moment which can be a dangerous thing hence haven't dared mess with anything.

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fishy wishy Veteran Member • Posts: 9,358
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Don't forget to find out the MFA needed for each separate lens with each separate body. Your body could be out too. Don't dial in a setting you found from using the lens on another body...

BirdShooter7 Veteran Member • Posts: 9,134
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The good thing about AFMA is that is your find that you are getting worse results with it all you have to do is turn it off and everything goes back to normal.

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sceneIt Contributing Member • Posts: 616
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I adjust them, and if they aren't accurate 99% of the time I send them back to the factory with an 8x10 of me taking a dump on their corporate logo....

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sceneIt wrote:

I adjust them, and if they aren't accurate 99% of the time I send them back to the factory with an 8x10 of me taking a dump on their corporate logo....

That's classy.

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